My response to blogger 'Ou812'

The average health care premiums per year for a family of four in the United States is in excess of $14, 500.00 , plus additional costs such as co-pays and deductibles. None of these charges exist in Canada.

Additionally until Obamacare, anyone with a pre-existing disease in the US could be denied health coverage by most HMO's , unless of course they were prepaired to pay outrages monthly premiums and even then these included limits. None of those provisions apply in Canada, everyone is covered unconditionally , free of charge.

Prior to Obamacare you're US for profit system had even life time health care limits, whereas a cancer patient could be told they have reached their limit in the middle of treatment and the insurer will no longer cover treatment and if they wish to complete treatment that will be COD cash on delivery only. Canada has NO such provision, all Canadians are covered unconditionally with no limits.

Prior to Obamacare every year it is estimated at minimum 35 thousand uninsured Americans died of treatable illness due to lack of access to US health care. Even after tens of thousands of uninsured Americans die needless deaths. Again in Canada EVERYONE is covered with health care unconditionally.

Even after Obamacare , Americas health care system fails to cover an estimated 30 million Americans, these are mostly people living in red states, seems Republican governors are willing to let people in their states die needlessly , just to enforce their right wing ideology.

The OECD tends to give the Canadian health care system high marks on outcomes in its regular look at international health care systems. "Canada’s survival rates for breast and colorectal cancer are among the highest in the OECD," the international organization noted . "Canada also does well in primary care, preventing costly hospital admissions from chronic conditions such as asthma and uncontrolled diabetes."

Does the Canadian health care bury Canadians in tax debt? NO, actually the federal tax rate for 2015 in Canada was 15% tax on the first 45 thousand dollars earned. Anyone below an income of $12,000.00 pays no tax at all.

Overhead costs for operating Canada's single payer free health care are approx 5.5% . Prior to Obamacare and setting limits of 20%, US HMO's routinely reported overhead costs near 30%. Perhaps that's how HMO, CEO's retire with nice lumps sums of one billion dollars and anual salaries of a million bucks a week, syphoned off monies that should have gone to cure the sick or help the dying.

"A new poll conducted by the Toronto-based Nanos Research points to overwhelming support — 86.2 percent — for strengthening public health care .

“With more than 8 in 10 Canadians supporting public solutions to make public health care stronger, there is compelling evidence that Canadians across all demographics would prefer a public over a for-profit health care system,” said Nik Nanos, president of Nanos.

Ou812 from the tone of your fevered attack on single payer health care and your somewhat extraordinary defense of the abomination Americans call 'for profit health care' , i can only assume, you're a selfish American who only cares about themselves or you're a paid provacateur here to try to undermine all attempts by the US to afford their citizens what every other modern first world country calls a right. SO GO AWAY.

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