The CPAC radio row shows can be truly awesome.

To hear a conservative Catholic identify basic social principles, common to ~all societies that are missing in our current politics (early Christian societies were communes, some religious communities still are today). Certainly Thom is right: Jesus and the disciples were communists.

To hear a discussion of natural rights - there is a greater commonality between left, right and independent that is overridden and suppressed by the fakey corporate duopoly. There is always some pure bliss for me when Thom can agree with the guests in these situations.

To hear a relaxed discussion Dan Bongigno so he doesn't seem like just some hyper-caffeinated libertarian argument machine. Thom and he agree frequently - very pleasant to see a review.

I think there is a flaw in Libertarianism with regard to public roads that points to a common basic misunderstanding about the Constitution. The USConstitution is described as a bill of negative rights. The full realm of human rights is open and NOT addressed by the Constitution except in the Ninth Amendment. The loss of respect for and understanding of the Ninth has people believing that they have Constitutionally guaranteed rights, instead of inherent and natural human rights.

If the Constitution addresses our natural and inherent human right to breathe it is in the Ninth.
Remember the Ninth!
Anything not covered by the rest of the Constitution remains with the people.
If we are a free people, then we have a right to freely travel from point A to point B
-- [home, work, school, stores, parks, libraries, etc.]
without trespassing or climbing fences.
Public roads are the way that a popular government enables the right of free passage.
Without public roads, the natural right to travel will inexorably come into conflict with the right of private property.
Libertarianism too often misses our many implied and expansive rights in favor of the rights of property and weaponry. In fact all of the major political formations share this failing. The modern world and especially the US are missing the radical analysis of a progressive left that has been successfully espoused from Christ through Chavez...

We have the right and responsibility, we have both the power and the duty to learn to share this world in a sustainable way that improves the world, our environment and our communities. To promote the general welfare is to positively affect the lives of everyone and that purpose of government is more central, more basic and organic than to provide for the common defense: common defense is just a part of the general welfare.

Enabling, expanding and enhancing our natural human rights is an inherent part of providing for the general welfare. Public roads make the right of free travel possible, and it is the right of free travel that makes the right of assembly possible. Far too many Americans are willing to give all of this all up for nothing except the dubious right to return to passive, obedient, trapped-in-place serfdom.

Remember the Ninth!

Anything not covered by the rest of the Constitution remains with the people.

Interesting comment about what Thom said about Jesus and the disciples ,it kind of echo,s a quote from one of my favourite spiritual books ."until humanity learns to live in community ,we will never experience what the divine is"