A. That climate change is very real & the planet’s greatest threat.
58%
B. That “Last Hours” doc. was right. Check it out: LastHours.org.
42%

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teajunkie 12 years 2 weeks ago

For what are we waiting? First, it is imparative to VOTE out the people who allow legislation to be passed that harms ALL of us. Laws must be changed that allow huge corporations to get away with violations that harm air, water, land, and all living beings. I don't believe we can stop screaming at CONGRESS and the WH!

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craig scott 12 years 2 weeks ago

It means climatology is a pseudo science!

Recent satellite data reveals CO2 has no influence in global warming claims so they now focus on methane...

It was james croll in the late 19th century who constructed the global warming/cooling cycle. Revealing we are entering a cooling cycle! Later proven by the milankovitch cycle!

Academically acclaimed geologist and biologist are incompetent! Climate models constructed by super computers are just as inconsistent!

First CO2, CO drops out the troposphere the second heat from the molecule is cooled when there is an absence of solar radiation. Thermo dynamics!

kock bore hole revealed, and subsequent studies show the crust is not as solid as text books declare. The volume of water in the crust is vast. And the discovery of extreamophil at the deepest depth produce a variaty of commodities. Including methane. There is no consistent way to identify the age of stone!

The most abundant living organism in the past is an ansestor of coral. it feed off the carbon rich atmosphere and produced water as a by product. Sea levels globaly rise due to the biological production of water!

Saw a guest mention mass extinction 56 million years ago... Well that was due to an asteroid/comet the size of Everest impacting the earth in the southern Gulf of Mexico! The KT impact..

The most significant atmospheric study conducted during the 90s in Australia was the evaporation rates of surface water has increased. The only time the study was confirmed in the US was the only day flights where grounded.

More water in the atmosphere, greater density, greater density greater cloud cover... And a significant influence on the jet stream which has been shown to have a longer wavelength with lower amplitude...

But governments don't need concern themselves with facts... They have managed to impose taxis on commodities imposed on us by corporate lobbiests...

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RFord 12 years 2 weeks ago

The Siberian crater means Mama Earth is sick, and suffering from some kind of poisoning. She may be suffering from CO2 poisoning which will cause a fever, excess water retention, and methane ulcers which will cause methane poisoning, which will cause the fever to rise even more. This sickness is cureable but it involves the extermination of the pest that caused it. After the extermination of the pest Momma Earth will recover and be just fine. If the pest does not completley exterminate its self and it survives, it means that the pest has stopped making Mamma Earth sick and Mamma Earth has a chance to recover.

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SHFabian 12 years 2 weeks ago

First, dump the opinions that are driven by political ideology. Science has a habit of contradicting the best of politically-driven notions. At this point, we don't know the cause of the Siberian crater. We have theories, some good educated guesses. But to my knowledge, we don't yet have enough data to be certain of the cause. It will take more research, and that takes time.

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SHFabian 12 years 2 weeks ago

Frankly, your post is only marginally coherent. How would the Siberian Crater prove that climate science is fraudulent? Climatology is simply the study of weather data accumulated over a period of time. If you look at the data, you can conclude (for example) if there is a warming trend or a cooling trend, etc. From there, you can have theories about the causes of those trends, but need to do the research to prove or disprove the theories. (Pay attention to the difference between theories and scientific conclusions.) Think of the earth as a patient, the Siberian crater as a symptom, and scientists as the doctors. The doctors can form theories -- educated guesses -- based on the symptoms, but they need to run tests (the research) to determine the cause for certain. That said, I would love to hear how you conclude that your theories are correct while scientists and computers are incorrect.

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SHFabian 12 years 2 weeks ago

What, exactly, would you scream at the White House and Congress to do? Global warming isn't terribly complex. We burn excessive amounts of fossil fuels. When you burn fossil fuels, soot particles and oil particles are released into the atmosphere. The oil particles magnify the heat of the sun, the soot particles absorb and trap the heat close to the earth, and global warming is the result. Our leading contribution to global warming (as well as lung disease and cancers) is our extrteme reliance on privately-owned motor vehicles, with the notion that we have the right to drive as much as we wish. Millions of cars, trucks and motorcycles hit the road every day, adding more soot and oil particles to the air. Americans are notorious for fighting against using tax dollars for a modern mass transportation system.

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craig scott 12 years 2 weeks ago

I assume your response is directed towards me?

Firstly the atomic mass of CO2 drops out the troposphere rapidly.... The only force able to propel CO2 into the stratosphere is a volcano! 99% of all atmospheric CO2 is produced by the earth... Assumptions of the 1% is not science It is simply a revelation of uncertainty in science. The constraints imposed on programming of super computers is variable and void of observable evidence! The human brain is far superiour! 6 billion people taking readings across the globe the answer would reveal it self long before a super computer could!

The milankovitch cycle is the only theory that is able to be varified with geological observations. Giving an accurate time line to work on! Stone can't dated accurately! Within the past thirty years the geological record in text books has been shown to be void of any intrinsic evidence. Science defined is observation! Legeslation and super computers are separate from the living world!

Personaly I am far more concerned with local climate and environments. The Sahal... Desertification of southern Sahara is directly attributed to european farming practices implemented by WTO, IMF and WB conditions imposed. Members of Codex alimuntarius caused the devestation of fish stock off the coast of Somalia resulting in piracy. And the pistachio nut in Zimbabwe forced the country to with draw from international trade. Fences, are the most devistating influence on the natural environment. And indirectly local climates. Most consistent records are less than 40 years old!

It was only 400 years ago winter fares on the Thames river. The mini ice age... Still no explination what was the contributing factor. Maps discoverd in the 14th century reveal the Antarctic was void of ice... We have only just entered the atomic age. It will be a long time before we are capable of traveling beyond the light of our sun entering the "space age"!

People need to reference dictionaries and learn the origin of legeslation! Democratus is the father of atomic theory... But I am not one for a patriarchal mob ruling order! Tesla discoverd AC current. Even Newton has been discredited (incidentally he was a governor of the Bank of England). Florence nightingale invented the pie chart. And the Sumerians gave us the 60 min hour 24 hour day...

All the the math we will use over the next 300 years was calculated centuries ago! Our technology is no guaranty the knowledge we acquire from it is correct!

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