Daily Topics - Wednesday - May 26th 2010

Daily Topics - Wednesday - May 26th 2010

Quote:  “The money power denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes.”  -- Democrat Presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan

Hour One - Should BP's Tony Hayward be put in prison for murder, manslaughter or environmental terrorism? Richard Stein, marine biologist and former University of Alaska fisheries extension agent

Plus...Gulf oil spill is killing his business Kuzma Tesvich Louisiana oyster harvester...his family has been in the business for generations

Hour Two - Have our privacy rights been eroded to point where the police are coming to your house next? Valerie Burch www.aclupa.org

Hour Three - Why is it that people aligned with the climate deniers tend toward violence while the people associated with people concerned about climate change tend toward bake sales? Dan Gainor www.businessandmedia.org

Comments

rladlof
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Being the hussy I am, broadly

Being the hussy I am, broadly speaking, if I'm agreeing with anyone I'm trying to get into bed with them. I'm just that sorta guy . . . 

rladlof
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Good Government is GOOD

Good Government is GOOD Government . . . No matter what size.

harry ashburn
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re: 51; I agree with you

re: 51; I agree with you 100%!

rladlof
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FRANCE IS NOT

FRANCE IS NOT SOCIALIST.

France has not had a true Socialist government since André Léon Blum.

Zero G
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@Harry - It's not my cup of

@Harry - It's not my cup of tea.

@Nels - I'm not an expert on the rules of J-walking, especially in Culver City, where this happened.

Maxrot
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@rladlof, uh oh, looks like

@rladlof, uh oh, looks like harry is eyeing you like a lion eye's a weak zebra.

 

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flotron9
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Thom, if this guest were

Thom, if this guest were honest, he would admit that the difference between government and big government is semanitic.

harry ashburn
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re #57: besides, our

re #57: besides, our government only gets bigger when it gets stimulated. :)

Maxrot
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I can only say, that if our

I can only say, that if our Government isn't big enough to control Corporations correctly, it isn't big enough.

 

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harry ashburn
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@maxrot; you know Willie

@maxrot; you know Willie sings about here in Texas, a woman will jump on a man like a dog jumps on a bone.

harry ashburn
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What has 35 eyes and 117

What has 35 eyes and 117 teeth?....

 

The front row at a Willie Nelson concert. :)

LeMoyne
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The short answer to the

The short answer to the violence spectrum matching the climate issue spectrum: is in the answer to the simple (rhetorical) question: What comes first: People or Profits?

Climate change deniers vigorously -> violently defend their right to pursue their personal liberty and objectify people sufficiently to suborn them to personal motives including profit.  Climate change believers vigorously defend the environment and people they don't even know (the 7th generation hasn't been born yet ;-)  - to the extent we objectify people it is as a 'good thing' beyond any present or future monetary value.

Seattleite
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Re: the case of the school

Re: the case of the school board vs. the girl with the cell phone.  Wasn't Roe vs. Wade decided on the idea that a woman has the right to privacy?  On the one hand, they should use the transcripts of Roe vs. Wade in the argument for the lawsuit.  On the other hand, what if this case makes it up the legal food chain?  The majority of the Supreme Court justices would love nothing more than to get their hands on this case.  That way they can say "We've revisited Roe vs. Wade and we've changed our minds.  Abortion is illegal".

I think this is a classic definition of a can of worms.

Maxrot
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Watching the BP live feed

Watching the BP live feed right now (have it placed on the corner of my computer screen all morning). Does seem to be reacting some what, the gas seems to be a little changed in the way its coming out, I'd say a bit more violent.

 

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harry ashburn
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Mmmm.....worms!....

Mmmm.....worms!....

rladlof
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I am sure that Dan Gainor

I am sure that Dan Gainor might be kind to some animal somewhere, some time . . . Even by accident without intention. Although being an individual simply existing in a collection of disassociated individuals, he should expect that no one should notice and accidently assign the label of “good person” to him to describe those potential actions.

 

I am making no representation regarding his character as, from a libertarian perspective, this concept is meaningless.

rladlof
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@MAXROT: Harry goes FURRY,

@MAXROT: Harry goes FURRY, too?  Woo-hooo!!!!

Zero G
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Washington Drug Agents Seize

Washington Drug Agents Seize Pot Legalization PetitionsBy Steve Elliott

Maxrot
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@rladlof, harry's into all

@rladlof, harry's into all sorts of strange things. Still waiting on the Republican Fathead decal shipments to arrive so we can adorn his home appropriately. ;-)

 

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Maxrot
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The Oil Spew seems to be

The Oil Spew seems to be getting more air or matter coming through it... the feed just went dead.

Interesting.

 

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rladlof
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O'Keefe Pleads Guilty In

O'Keefe Pleads Guilty In Landrieu Phone-Tampering Case, Gets Three Years Probation

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/okeefe_pleads_guilty_in_landrieu_phone_tamper_case.php

Only three years of probation . . . 

harry ashburn
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@Maxrot: we agreed...exterior

@Maxrot: we agreed...exterior only!

harry ashburn
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@maxrot: re #70: still no

@maxrot: re #70: still no picture? hope this isn't ominous

rladlof
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Bobby GIN-doll also more

Bobby GIN-doll also more correctly know as (noted anchor-baby and) Governor Piyush Jindal.

Zero G
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@rladlof, Is that another

@rladlof,

Is that another Chicken Joke... (#74)

(showing my age...if you get it, your's too)

rladlof
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Oh for the days of Soupy

Oh for the days of Soupy Sales, rubber chickens and arrows through the head . . . 

camplunalinda
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  The billboards read: 29

  The billboards read: 29 Coal Miners Dead, Prosecute Massey for Manslaughter

http://www.prosecutemassey.org/

Highway billboards calling for a manslaughter prosecution of Massey Energy are going up in West Virginia.

The first billboard went up today on Rt. 522 in Morgan County.

VIDEO:

http://www.prosecutemassey.org/blog/?p=81

THANK-YOU for SIGNING the PETITION  -- 

 http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/5710/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=1753  --

 

Maxrot
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@harry, sorry about that, no

@harry, sorry about that, no there is a picture now, they changed it to something that looks like a couple of valve couplings.

 

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harry ashburn
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re:#74: I can't find the word

re:#74: I can't find the word jolke in the OED...

OSUbeaverfan
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 NEW NAME for the Party of NO

 NEW NAME for the Party of NO  --->  Reconstipation Party

A suggestion for THOM (and all of us) since as a party Republications have decided to block Presdential nominees, legislation, or anything that Dem's are trying to do to move this country forward.  

Also, as shorthand,"RECONSTIPS" or "RECONS" have a nice ring.

When their so-called leadership & right-wing talking heads refer to us as "the DEMOCRAT Party', we need to come right back by referring to their Party of NO as "The RECONSTIPATION Party" (or RECONSTIP Party).

harry ashburn
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OOPs it wasn't the OED, it

OOPs it wasn't the OED, it was the Cliff Notes...

camplunalinda
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LINK?

LINK?

Maxrot
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Camera shot on the live fed

Camera shot on the live fed is moving around. Looks like the BOP being viewed.

 

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/ho...

 

Check it out, no sound involved. I just open up a secondary browser window, frame the video feed and stick it in a corner on my monitor.

 

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rladlof
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http://www.urbandictionary.co

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=recessivist

Maxrot
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@harry #72 sure, we'll put

@harry #72 sure, we'll put those Fatheads on the exterior, why not. Nice of you to want to share the images with your neighbors.

 

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rladlof
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  Lowden Given Nickname

 

Lowden Given Nickname 'Suicidal Sue' -- By A Supporter!

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/lowden-given-nickname-suicidal-sue----by-a-supporter.php

How to go from stomping Spineless . . . Sorry . . . Senator . . . Harry Reid to joke in 30 seconds flat.

Misspelling edit . . . 

 

harry ashburn
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@Maxrot re: #85: Be sure to

@Maxrot re: #85: Be sure to add a banner that says "Don't Let This Happen to You!"

Maxrot
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Focusing all the blame on BP

Focusing all the blame on BP is kind of like locking the barn door after the livestock have been stolen. Regulate all the oil companies, regulate, regulate, regulate. Obviously the blame lies with lack of Government oversight, and all administrations within the past decades are culpable, especially after some of the spills we have already have.

 

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Maxrot
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I think the time has come for

I think the time has come for us to add a tax to fossil fuels and use the proceeds from that tax to invest in clean alternative energy industries. Just like we add a tax to cigarettes to fund anti-smoking campaigns.

Side note, just to be clear, clean coal and Nuclear Energy ARE NOT clean alternative energy industries.

 

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Zero G
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Nels, Some of the blame lies

Nels,

Some of the blame lies on our own refusal to alter our transportaion modes, as well as our acceptance of the use of military force to keep the oil a'flowin'.

Zero G., carless for the last three years...

Zero G
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Clean coal is kin to healthy

Clean coal is kin to healthy cancer.

Maxrot
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Our refusal to alter our

Our refusal to alter our transportation modes? I haven't refused anything, I haven't been given any viable choices, but one, fossil fuel based.

 

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gerald
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Since Obama is now the former

Since Obama is now the former president, the acting president in the WH is Rahm Emanuel.

gerald
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@harry ashburn, mass murder

@harry ashburn, mass murder and war crimes are in vogue for all the presidents.

@rladlof, he who has the gold rules. We have always had class warfare. It is just so blatant today. The United States of Hell is heavy into a caste system.

writerofwrongs
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regarding one of the topics

regarding one of the topics on Wednesday's show: the tendency toward violence by the rightwingers, a link was posted by a blogger to a site which complied characteristics of RWA and how to recognize Right Wing Authority complex: http://www.ehow.com/how_2179992_recognize-authoritarian-personality.html

This is an excellent web page and pretty much pegs the personalities of the rightwing sheeple rushbot-types. The only thing I would have added with emphasis is this:

" another disturbing characteristic of the RWA is sexism and chauvanism which seems to be a common theme among the afflicted. A progressive or liberal leaning female seems to bring out the absolute hate and intolerance way beyond what is normally reserved for progressive or liberal leaning males. Many of those afflicted with RWA believe the problems facing America began when women were granted the right to vote a century ago and that those who promote equality for women are godless and sinful, thus making use of their not so secret weapon of religion to keep women " in their place.."

The RWA's seek a white male dominated existence of an authoritarian style where women are cloaked in psychological burkas and are there only to serve and shut up.

 

 

 

 

writerofwrongs
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Isn't that pretty much whats

Isn't that pretty much whats happening in Iraq & Afghanistan...our military being used to keep oil flowing ? food 4 thought.