Let’s try something that’s been proven to work before…a New Deal

Let’s try something that’s been proven to work before…a New Deal

You need to know this.  New job numbers highlight a slowing economic recovery.  54,000 jobs were created last month – the 15th straight month of job creation.  The jobless rate stands at 9.1%.  But 54,000 fell way short of what economists projected – about 165,000 jobs.  It’s also the slowest job growth in 8 months.  And considering that 200,000 jobs need to be created each month just to keep up with population growth – our nation is still falling behind. 

Job creation is being hampered by a double-dip in the housing market – as home prices fell to a 9-year-low last month – with 28% of all home sales today resulting from foreclosures.  And, nearly a quarter of all homeowners are “underwater” on their mortgage.  Looks like George W. Bush’s plan of bailing out the banks in 2008 and just sitting back and hoping that money trickles down to everyone else didn’t work – just like it NEVER works.  So let’s try something different to reboot our economy.  Let’s try something that’s been proven to work before…a New Deal.   With bridges and roads collapsing – our energy infrastructure outdates – and a growing need for new schools and hospitals – let’s put American back to work building up our nation again. 

Never in the history of the world has a country achieved prosperity through budget cuts and low taxes.  It’s time to invest money – and grow our way out of this recession.

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dnarnadem
Purgatory was an invention

Purgatory was an invention of

Purgatory was an invention of the Catholic Church, so that newly converted pagans didn't think that one sin and it was game over.

Wrong - Purgatory was invented by the Money-Lenders so they could cheat borrowers and levy interest rates during their life-time and then have Purgatory as a safety valve so they could re-cant and then go to heaven!

Though usury was considered a mortal sin and Money was "Filthy Lucre", the Church still had to make a living! So the theologians figured a way out of that dilemma! Ingenious I would say!

Not un-similar to their modern counterparts the Fascist Corporatists!

 

dnarnadem
I want to be a socialist I

I want to be a socialist

I want to be a socialist myself, but first I have to know how you become an allocator of resources. I don't want to be the allocated too.

Too cute by far! Unless you live on Mars or youo are a Non-US, citizen, you are already a Socialist, An Allocator and an Allocated to!

Social Security! Unless of course you don't pay into it and so won't use it.

And you didn't even see the Social in The Security! My My!

 

2950-10K
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In reply to wmstoll; I think

In reply to wmstoll;

I think you need a few facts about FDR and his deeds. Why don't we start with his National Industrial Recovery Act. He got industry to shorten the workweek from 48 hours, which had been the minimum, to 40 hours, and they were not to fire any more employees or cut any more wages. These measures with the shorter work week put more people back to work. It also provided 3.3 billon to build needed public works.

In order to prevent more sale of worthless stocks by brokers Roosevelt's Security and Exchange Commission helped put an end to such fraud.  However your buddies, Bush , Gramm, and others have defunded and deregulated the industry so that we might repeat ugly history!

 

He won  approval for the Tennessee Valley Authority to help prevent disastrous floods and the dams that were used also provided affordable energy  for one of the poorest sections  of the country. I guess disastrous floods no longer need govt. intervention!

He established the Civilian Conservation Corps, putting 250,000 jobless men to work on projects for the public good.

He set up the Emergency Relief Adminstration in order to provide $500 million in relief payments to states.

He got the Agricultural Adjustment Act passed, a bill designed to raise the income of farmers and to provide loans to prevent foreclosures.

The fact is the private sector had broke down completely and FDR had to act. There is nothing new when it comes to unregulated greed, it's called feudalism my friend, it's a world where most are miserable so a few can grow fat and lazy with untold wealth! You say FDR prolonged the depression, I say he gave hope to a frightened population in one of our nation's  darkest moments.

Now why don't you list some facts concerning trickle down and the role it plays in job creation, wages, concentration of wealth, our budget deficit...........

Palindromedary
Egberto: Thanks for making

Egberto: Thanks for making your book known. Wow! you got a solid 5 stars from all your reviewers on Amazon! And it sounds like a very right-on book. I will certainly read it. Thanks again.

gerald
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@dnarnadem & wmstoll,

@dnarnadem & wmstoll, interesting, that Purgatory is an invention of the Catholic Church. Purgatory is not an invention. It is more of an explanation of how souls can enter heaven. Sin leaves a stain on the soul. No soul can enter heaven unless the soul is pure. Jesus has said we are to forgive 70 times 7. A phrase meaning that forgiveness is important and we need to keep forgiving a person or persons.. After the sin the stain remains on the soul and the stain is purged in Purgatory. Jesus wants all souls in heaven and Purgatory is a preparation for heaven.

dotymed
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 If you really THINK, then

 If you really THINK, then you realize that Reagan was our first corporate President since the  Depression..

Under "his" (corporate, he was already suffering dementia) administration he started the mess that we are now in. His "Union busting" left a legacy of no rights in the workplace and a steadily declining Union membership, mainly because he "eased" the process of allowing collective bargaining (Unions) to form. Every since then, we have had "stagnating wages" in the workplace. I am 50 y.o. and I made more money as a teenager than most people earn today and the value of the dollar is probably half of what it was then.

One of the most despicable accomplishments of his Presidency was to have the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE rescinded by his FCC. Now, by court precedence, media "news" is not required  to be honest. This is (IMO) why Americans do not revolt. They are fed a steady diet of propaganda by the MSM. MOST Americans still believe (vehemently), that if it is "reported" on tee vee news, it is the truth. My brother, an apolitical Progressive  (who exists below the poverty line and has no health insurance,just like my Sister who has cancer) says, when we have watched tee vee together, that "if it is on the news, it HAS to be true." I have asked many people, they believe that. They, like me, were raised during the FCC rule that did regulate and enforce the Fairness Doctrine, they just do not realize that it no longer exists. Goebels realized and utilized propaganda as a way to control Germany during Hitlers reign and Reagan"s masters realized how effective it is.

Reagan also cut the taxes on the wealthy and started the "trickle down" theory. This has proven itself many times, to be a false theory. Yet, "we" still operate on that principle. That is why we have the worst income distribution in the world. It is only getting worse.

When America led the rebuilding of the axis nations (the Marshall plan) that were destroyed during WWII, FDR made sure that those countries had some type of Universal Health Care and a strong Union system. Like Mitch Daniels (IN governor), Hitlers first official act was to "suspend" Germany's Unions. He realized that a populace that was too busy trying to financially survive, would not notice his treacherous designs. America, IMO, is much like Germany under Hitler's rule. We may not have mass genocide (yet, except on the Muslim nations) but we have the merger of corporations and government that Mussolini perfected. We have most people trying to survive on little pay. We have a SCOTUS that is not answerable to the citizens or held responsible for their criminal activity, much like our politicians, who know that as long as corporations are "people(?)", they only have to please their corporate constituency to get elected. The ordinary person (living, breathing, underpaid) cannot pay the million$ required these days, to get the politicians elected. We need a Bernie Sanders in the White House. He embodies the "people first" spirit of FDR.

2950-10K
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dnarnadem, I'm always amazed

dnarnadem, I'm always amazed by those who demonize the word socialism, "socialist"! The thing many do not understand is that the working class via directly or indirectly by the sweat of our backs and minds, ALLOCATES enormous sums of wealth to a relatively small number of feudal-like pigs who in many cases do not even lift a finger unless their holding a golf club!

Many of my elderly neighbors would be living in abject poverty were it not for SOCIAL programs. Most of these good folks spent a lifetime working for industry that tremendously enriched the owners, but left these dedicated workers penniless at retirement.  We the citizens need to regulate by means of democratic socialism the bald faced and destructive greed that many so called job creators seem to exhibit, it would truly be a DEMOCRACY then!

Elioflight
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2950-10K: Well said--and

2950-10K:

Well said--and true.

gerald
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There was a saying that two

There was a saying that two experiences are certain – death and taxes. We know now that the American rich and American transnational corporations who are persons do not pay taxes. That leaves death. Death is the equalizer for every human being on this planet. Even in death there must be equality. This equality comes from God, the Father. Each soul must be pure. The purification takes place through the purging of our sins in Purgatory. The American rich will not escape this purification experience; no human being will escape it. Each soul entering heaven must be pure. PURE SOULS ARE THE EQUALIZER!!!!! Believe it or not!!!!!

gerald
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@2950-10K, Elioflight agrees

@2950-10K, Elioflight agrees and I say your comment hits a home run!!! Socialism is a word, an institution, and a way of living that needs to be cherished like a bottle of fine wine. Socialism is the answer in resolving many of the world's problems that we face today!!!!! LONG LIVE SOCIALISM!!!!!

 

gerald
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Was Jesus Liberal? I cannot

Was Jesus Liberal?

I cannot say whether or not Jesus was a liberal.  I have tried to study Jesus and His life and I have come to the conclusion that Jesus loves the sinner but not the sin.

Of all the sins that are committed Jesus had great affection for harlots.  He loved them more because women during Jesus’ time on earth had very tough lives.  A woman was considered below a man’s possessions and his children.  If a woman’s husband died, she was at the mercy of the husband’s family and her family to be taken into their home and helped.  Many women were not accepted and they were left on the street to survive by themselves.  Some became harlots and some found work picking up the animal dung that was left on the streets and roads.

Children of a dead father were more readily accepted because they could do the work and much of the work was hard labor so the children had some value.  Their mothers had to fend for themselves.

2950-10K
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I would like to finish my #44

I would like to finish my #44 comment with another reason economic recovery has stalled out, and any good economist will back me up on this. In many states, governors continue to slash programs and spending rather than opt to get the rich to pay their fair share of taxes. This wrongheaded approach is motivated by the right wings desire to break unions and privatize for the enrichment of a few. This not only stalls out economic recovery and kills jobs, it also nullifys the federal stimulus program designed to kickstart the economy. This is the time to borrow and spend if we truly want to end this working class depression.

Even in the state of N.Y. Cuomo has bought into the lie that taxing the super rich is job killing, or maybe he's smarter than that and really just fears the same billionaires "banksters" that ruined Spitzer. 

Are these guys all sniffing Palin exhaust? The repubs in the house of rep surely are, they may get what their wishing for by August!

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2950-10K
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Thanks gerald, I agree

Thanks gerald, I agree unregulated capitalism is the problem, Democratic Socialsm is the answer and I'm damn tired of being timid about the words. I've even thought about calling it Democratic Functionalism!......... Fight on brother!

gerald
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@2950-10K, I am not an

@2950-10K, I am not an economist. Our eldest son was visiting us for the Memorial Day weekend. He showed my wife and me an article that said in the past ten years raises were only 4.2%. With 3% cost of living increases in goods and services Americans fell behind 25.8% in buying power that would have helped to generate our economy. With price manipulations in wages, salaries, stocks and bonds, food, oil and energy Americans are really living in a banana republic and a third world country. The American rich and American transnational corporations want Americans to be cannon fodder (to be killed and maimed in endless wars), mushrooms (keep them in the dark and feed them shit), and turnips (by sucking all the blood from them). WE NEED SOCIALISM IN OUR HELL-HOLE, RAT-HOLE, AND SHIT-HOLE ANTI-CHRIST COUNTRY. 

gerald
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2950-10K, PREDATORY

2950-10K, PREDATORY CAPITALISM HAS US BY THE SHORT HAIRS AND IT HURTS. There was an article on socialism and we must develop a fondness for this word. THERE MUST ALSO BE MORE TALK OF SHARED SACRIFICES!!!!! If people can accept Democratic Functionalism, then we may want to call it - Democratic Functionalism. We have answers for our many problems but greed and selfishness have a strangle hold on us and also on our moral compasses. NONE OF US NEED TO BE TIMID WITH OUR WORDS!!! We are and will be facing ongoing battles with Satan's disciples in this country. These disciples are the American rich, American transnational corporations, and the American politicians.   

gerald
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A True Hero I have shared

A True Hero

I have shared with you my belief of Pope John Paul II as he lived and I have not changed my view of him now that he is with our Creator.  The physical Pope has died but his life and his words will never die.

The Catholic News Service has written many articles on Pope John Paul II.  We keep hearing that the world and America need heroes.  The world and America are suffering in a malaise of leadership.  Let me say that with the world in general and with America more specifically looking for heroes we have only to look to Rome for such a person.  His name was Pope John Paul II.  The Pope’s entire life had been one of heroism.  At great risk to his mother’s health she gave birth to Pope John Paul II.  He survived Nazism and he lived through Communism.  At great risk to himself he studied to be a priest.

Pope John Paul II was a man of courage and compassion.  He stood fast against the war in Iraq.  Even though the Catholic media ran away from him by justifying the war, Pope John Paul II said that the war was “wrong and immoral” and that the preventive war theory was “gravely immoral.”  He had stressed that war does not resolve conflicts among countries.

The Pope continued to be a champion for our need to experience a “culture of Pentecost” and that we are to work to build a “civilization of love.”  Pope John Paul II was truly a hero.  I want to personally adopt him as a real American hero.  He was a man whom we should strive to emulate in our actions, behaviors, and words.  With Pope John Paul II as our model the world would be a better place for all human beings.

Next Sunday is Pentecost Sunsay. Let us use June 12, 2011 as a day to focus on a "CIVILIZATION OF LOVE."

gerald
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I am now ready for my mid-day

I am now ready for my mid-day nap!!!

bicyclingjroad
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"That government is best

"That government is best which governs least" Henry David Thoreau in Civil Disobedience

"Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem" Ronald Regan

Do you see the similarties?

bicyclingjroad
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Mr. Dnarnadem, Interesting

Mr. Dnarnadem,

Interesting take, Regan was a success because of the democrats. Obama is a failure because of the Republicans. At least you admit Regan was a success. You're making progress. I guess Presidential leadership has nothing to do with the equation. 

Jobs Bills!! You must be a government worker. The government doesn't tell busineess to hire. Stimulus is too artifical to work. Business grow by taking risks, seizing on opportunties, planning and executing. Having a clear vision of what they want to accomplish. The present congress is still cleaning up the mess left by the previous one. The budget wasn't completed until April, even though the fiscal year began in October 2010. Now the Congresss is dealing with raising the debt ceiling, which also should have been dealt with by the last Congress. 

This administration is failing not because the Republicans won't co-operate, but because it is incompetent and can't provide the leadership this country so desperately needs.

gerald
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Does anyone really believe

Does anyone really believe Reagan that government is the problem. Our government can be very helpful but our government today is an oppressive government that is enslaving and impoverishing the poor and working classes of Americans. Our government can pinpoint our secrets, such as to what time we take a fart or when we pick our nose. Our government through satellite surveillances can tell what time we made love with our wife. Yes, in certain ways our government is the problem. A socialistic government would benefit at least ninety percent of our citizens with safety net programs.

God, our Anti-Christ nation needs you now more than ever.

gerald
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G. K. Chesterton Here are

G. K. Chesterton

Here are some thoughts from G.K. Chesterton, the Apostle of Commonsense.

Government and commerce should not grow too large because people will not control government and commerce.  They will control us.  Under Reagan and Bush government has ballooned.  You cannot have a moral government from an immoral government.  Today, America has an immoral government.

The voice of God is important in a democracy.  A false god will lead us astray.  Enemies of the families are the enemies of democracy.  The Reagan and Bush’s policies hurt families.  For democracy to work we must value the family.  Democracy is from the bottom up and not top down.  Freedom is independence.  The Reagan and Bush’s policies have enslaved Americans.  Self-denial is the test of self-government.  Self-government is thinking for ourselves.  We must do things for ourselves but Reagan and Bush and their band of goons and thieves want to control our thought processes and what we do in our lives and what we do for our lives.

Big business and big government are bad for democracy.  Corporations want to control Americans and the world population.  We have lost commonsense because we have lost a common heritage.

We live by the wage.  Wage slavery is still slavery.  Servile state is inconsistent with democracy.  Property is a form of democracy.  Distribution is a form of democracy.  God wants all of us to share in the goods and goodness of our planet.  Human happiness should be our end in a democracy.  The Reagan and Bush’s policies have enslaved and made Americans

and the world population miserable.  A small salary is eternal slavery.  The Reagan and Bush and their band of goons and thugs do not want to increase the minimum wage on a continuing basis so that we will remain eternal slaves to corporations, Bushites, and the Reaganites.

Democracy is difficult.  Democracy must be concerned with justice.  The Patriot Acts removed justice.  For democracy to work we must love God and we must love our neighbor.  The Reagan and Bush’s policies have us hating our neighbors.

 

gerald
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Quotes from G.K.

Quotes from G.K. Chesterton

Jesus speaks sanity to a world of lunatics.

It’s not that Christianity has been tried and failed. It’s that Christianity has never been tried.

Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies even if they become fashionable.

Take away the supernatural and what remains is the unnatural.

There is a great man who makes every man feel small. But, the real great man is the man who makes every man feel great.

Psychoanalysis is confession without absolution.

The most astonishing thing about miracles is that they happen.

The rich are the scum of the earth in every country.

The honest poor can sometimes forget poverty. The honest rich can never forget it.

Art, like morality, consists of drawing the line somewhere.

I regard golf as an expensive way of playing marbles.

Here is one of my favorite quotes from Mahatma Gandhi.

I like your Jesus. It’s your Christians I do not like.

Here is truly a great quote.

Every time I hear that the United States is a Christian nation I have a torrential puke. – Gerald Socha 

THE GREATEST STUMBLING BLOCS FOR CATHOLICISM ARE CATHOLICS.

 

 

gerald
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G.K. Chesterton I have had an

G.K. Chesterton

I have had an opportunity to see the work at a free health clinic. As I looked over the people who were at the clinic, I saw a feeling of hopelessness. How can any true American be so insensitive to the needs of their brothers and sisters in God? We are in a full scale depression.

Here is a five part breakdown of some of G.K.’s thoughts.

I would like to share with you the words and thoughts of G.K. Chesterton. We will need time to reflect on his words and thoughts and not just read his words. I will give you his words and thoughts in 5 parts or sections. I do not want to overload you in one part or section. True reflection will take time.

This is part one of five sections.

The Gilbert Keith Chesterton Society is located in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

G.K. Chesterton (1874-1936) had profound influence on such diverse 20th century figures as Mohandas Gandhi, C.S Lewis, and T.S. Eliot. Mr. Chesterton is also known as the Apostle of Common Sense.

I had a chance to listen to G.K.’s words and thoughts on radio from January, 2003 through January, 2004. His writings were discussed for thirty minute parts, sections, or time. His writings would be discussed for a week here and a week there. What is amazing about his work and writings are that his writings can be applied today. While I listened to the radio shows, I took notes.

I have divided the information on G.K. Chesterton into several parts or sections in order not to overwhelm you. Please do not just read the words. It is important to reflect on the words and thoughts.

I want to begin with his steps for conversion. Actually, these steps had to do with religion but these steps can be applied to parties and politics.

Here are the three steps for conversion.

One, be fair and open minded to the truth!

Two, realize the truth and investigate the parties and politics!

Three, is the party or politics pulling you to the truth and you can accept conversion or reject it!

G.K. was a master of logic. Only the truth can free us and make us happy. We cannot compromise in these areas – wisdom, truth, innocence, and goodness.

 

gerald
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This is part two of five

This is part two of five sections.

When a man stops believing in God, he loses his common sense. Faith will help us recover our common sense. We are not guaranteed whether or not we will win battles. We still must fight for what is right and just. Humility is very important in life. Being a moral human being is hard work. Religion gives us meaning and purpose. We have a responsibility to pass along truth. Democracy and common sense must go together.

What is wrong with the world? CHRISTIAN IDEAL IS NOT IN PRACTICE!

Democracy requires people to think for themselves. Enjoy yourself! Give money to the poor! Preach against pride! Conflicts begin when a person feels superior to another person. Man must have a vision. What kind of picture will you paint? We must choose our light!

Wealthy people do not worry about ordinary people. To worry about someone or something you need to be interested in someone or something. Wealthy people are not interested in ordinary people.

Injustice must be resolved before we have true democracy. Family and religion matter! Wage salary deters democracy. The servile state destroys the family and democracy. The sharing of property is the positive form of democracy. Skills have decreased and services have increased. The family is paramount over the factory and wages. (With the loss of manufacturing jobs we are also losing our skilled trade workers and our middle class.)

CONSERVATIVES PREVENT CORRECTING MISTAKES! PROGRESSIVES KEEP MAKING MISTAKES! CAPITALISM AND BIG GOVERNMENT ARE THE SAME!

This is part three of five sections.

Government and commerce should not grow too large because the people will not control government and commerce. They will control us. You cannot have a moral government from an immoral government.

Industrialism is too crooked and complex. The voice of God is important in a democracy. Enemies of the family are the enemies of democracy. For democracy to work we must value the family. (Do you sense that there are politicians and corporations who care very little about families in our country?) Democracy is from the bottom up and not top down. Freedom is independence. Self-denial is the test of self-government. Self-government is thinking for your self. We must do things for ourselves. Big business and big government are bad for democracy. When you lose a common heritage, you lose common sense. We live by the wage. Wage slavery is still slavery. The servile state is inconsistent with democracy.

Property is a form of democracy. Distributiveness is necessary for democracy. Human happiness should be our end in a democracy. A small salary is eternal slavery. (Today, we are seeing eternal slavery in the USA with small salaries and the loss of the middle class.) Democracy is difficult. Democracy must be concerned with justice. For a democracy to work we must love God and we must love our neighbor.

This is part four of five sections.

People are divided up into two groups. Capitalists and socialists are alike. Puritans and pagans are alike. Both lack the balance in common sense. Christmas and Easter changed paganism forever. Modern pagans worship something but God. God is not worshipped. Paganism leads to nowhere. Without God we are doomed. Puritanism was a mistake. They looked at the physical world as evil. Puritanism is revival of righteousness. Their Christianity was narrow. They worship by thinking. Christianity worships by dancing and drinking. Modern Puritans worship health and fitness. Modern Puritans are intolerant. Their morals are upside down.

Chesterton defends wine and beer. You drink because you are happy and because you are depressed. Puritanism and paganism miss the point of pleasure and incarnation.

Good should lead us to the Incarnation – spirit and flesh. There needs to be a balance in our life.    

 

gerald
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This is part five of five

This is part five of five sections.

G.K. Chesterton argues politics. In a democracy people should govern themselves. Corporations and the rich are governing us. Common sense is better than a corrupt government. Government and commerce are ugly necessities. They control the people and the people do not control them. CAPITALISM IS NOT A FRIEND OF DEMOCRACY. Democracy MUST serve both God and man. Both capitalism and communism are too materialistic. We cannot give everything to the government and commerce. Rich men would rather starve the people.

Industrialism is an indirect system. The voice of the people is the voice of God. Enemies of democracy are the enemies of families. For democracy to work the best interests of the family must be considered. (Single payer health care reform plans is democracy and it serves the families.) Self-denial is important in the world. We cannot rely on other people. We should do something for love.

Mob rule is democracy in its purest sense. Government and democracy isolate people from each other. We have cut off ourselves from each other.

Property and money need to be distributed to the people. We need more skill trades. Society declines when there is a great difference in salaries between the rich and the poor. (Our minimum wage law has not kept pace with the cost of living. If our minimum wage law had kept pace with the cost of living since it was enacted, the minimum wage would be at nineteen dollars per hour.) For democracy to work we need to be concerned about justice. 

 

 

gerald
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http://www.opednews.com/artic

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Secret-Wars-of-CIA-Have-Co-by-Sherwood-Ross-110605-267.html

Secret wars and money!

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Republicans-propose-anothe-by-Brent-Budowsky-110604-569.html

More evil deeds from the GOP!

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Making-the-US-Economy-Scr-by-Robert-Parry-110604-730.html

Scream!!!

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Living-beyond-our-means--by-Kent-Welton-110604-535.html

Screwed again!!!

 

Palindromedary
"White House Adds New

"White House Adds New Position to Deal with Unfavorable Online Media"
Obama just created a new position to clamp down on what people say on-line about his administration.

So watch what you say about him, or his administration, or you might just get "terminated". Seig Heil!

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/white-house-dedicates-new-position...

bvcardinal
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I think the real problem is

I think the real problem is everyone's attitude. One Team against the other Team mentality....

It ( our Republic ) is not a game designed for one winner only....when the population is pitted one party against the other party moving toward a winner take all end game....we all end up sacrificing for the wrong reason.

Our System of government and commerce is designed so as many of our citizens can "Win" as possible....What the focus should be on is how we go about it....we're ALL in this together....make our children study and get "above average" grades and teach them respect for peers and adults and authority----then focus them on being part of the solution not the problem. They need our guidance....We've been teaching them the wrong....which is to say we're not teaching them at all.

We need wealthy people ( companies are groups of people ) to hire and grow and provide jobs for ( College grads,High school summer jobs for kids, etc). There's nothing wrong with having wealthy people in any society. The super rich ( Bill Gates ) have foundations that helps thousands of people lead better lives.....How many of us donate time or money to help those in need....It's a great question to ask of all of us...

Of the 54,000 jobs that were created last month 1 /2 was hired by McDonalds. Just think if that wealthy group ( corporation ) wasn't around....

 

 

DELETEBusGreg
I submit the mess in Congress

I submit the mess in Congress really speaks volumes more about our system and those who elect the alleged representatives than those getting elected. For decades many American voters - I are one - have been faced with the sad choice of having to select the lesser of two evils. My previous mis-representative was Heath Shuler D-NC 11, one of the Blue (Cross) Demodorks. A vote for my choice in NC did not exist, as the Green Party is not recognized there.

Having said that, our energy policy - or lack thereof - speaks volumes as well. We fight endless wars over a finite resource, and in the process of these oil wars our military complex has become the biggest user of products refined from the very substance we are slowly running out of. Not only are we committing trillions of dollars (in the long run) we are wasting what we fight for. Unless we get representation in Congress that represents us the people and not special interests, nothing will change. Except for the worse, and more tax give-aways for the uber-rich of course.

Dramatic re-direction of funds from the military-industrial-congressional complex to a public energy  endeavor is needed. Creating a renewable energy source - owned by US the people - and creating jobs along the way is the only way and the right way. I live in Southern California and almost every agricultural field in the Imperial Valley is bordered by geo-thermal piping, creating clean energy. Energy is but one of the problems we face, but it also is the one avenues we should use and change the way we do things. Education, single payer health insurance (MediCare-E), and banking are right up there and need to be tackled and fixed in a manner benefitting the people first.

Unfortunately, with the current crop of retrogressive special interest lackeys and the inteligence deficient wanna-be's who are running, the light at the end of the tunnel is an on-coming freight train on it's way to a train wreck.

Unfortunately, when chosing the lesser of two evils it is still evil...

 

Elioflight
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2950-10K: Democratic

2950-10K:

Democratic Functionalism--I love it!

We still need to take money out of elections in order to get ANYTHING done.

dnarnadem
Prior to thye Middle Ages

Prior to thye Middle Ages there was NO Purgatory in the Catholic Church. Purgatory, as I stated, Was invented by Catholic theologians.

If you don't believe me, pick up a good history on Purgatory and learn how it was created, who it was created for, and Why!

Palindromedary
"Contrary to his (Obama's)

"Contrary to his (Obama's) pretense of saving the economy, his action will intensify debt deflation and financial depression, paving the way for a long-term tax shift off wealth onto labor.

In achieving a giveaway that Democrats never would have let George Bush or other Republicans enact, Obama has laid himself open to the campaign slogan that brought down British Prime Minister Tony Blair: “You can’t believe a word he says.” He has lost support not only personally, but also – as the Republicans anticipate – for much of his party in 2012.

Yet Obama has only done what politicians do: He has delivered up his constituency to his campaign backers – the same Wall Street donors who back the Republicans. What’s the point of having a constituency, after all, if you can’t sell it?

The problem is that it’s not going to stop here."

"Obama’s Republican act (I hate to call it a compromise) “frees” income for the wealthiest classes to send abroad, to economies not yet wrecked by neoliberals. This paves the way for a foreign-exchange crisis."

"So the game plan is not merely to free the income of the wealthiest class to “offshore” itself into assets denominated in harder currencies abroad. It is to scrap the progressive tax system altogether. The Democratic Congress is making only token handwringing protests against this plan, no doubt with an eye looking forward to the campaign contributors two years down the road."

"....we can expect the next Republican or Democratic administration to step in and “save” the country from economic emergency by scaling back Social Security while turning its funding over, Pinochet-style, to Wall Street money managers to loot as they did in Chile. And one can forget rebuilding America’s infrastructure. It is being sold off by debt-strapped cities and states to cover their budget shortfalls resulting from un-taxing real estate and from foreclosures.

Welcome to debt peonage. This is worse than what was meant by a double-dip recession. It will be with us much longer."

http://michael-hudson.com/2010/12/obamas-bushism/

dnarnadem
2950-10K Yes it is quite

2950-10K

Yes it is quite amazing! What is even more amazing is the fact that FDR in the 30s used and implemented many Socialist ideas, especially Social Security. Imagine what our country would be like today if SS would not have been implemented!

Now the greedy rich would love to get rid of this program and RE-ALLOCATE all that money into THEIR pockets! So with Medicare and Medicaid!

Also quite amazing is the demonizing of the word by neo-cons and Republicans - and Taxes, Collective Bargaining, Unions, Public Education - anything and everything that benefits the average working person in this country! It is like Rich RESENT the fact that the Money made by the people is going back into the pockets of the people, I mean literally resent that fact!

Also a problem is the fact that the very same people are being DUPED by the RIGHT WING corporatists/banksters to believe that what the people generate by the sweat of their brow, really belongs to the Corporatists/Banksters and the Few filthy rich! How can the Many be so easily swayed and duped to act against their own self-interest? That is the BIG question facing modern societies, and especially now in America.

Case in point – 10 of the largest Corporations in America (There are MANY more!!), paid NO income taxes this year – NONE! And some actually got REBATES! And they made profits totaling over 100 Billion dollars! I personally paid more taxes this year than all these 10 combined did!

And no one has taken to the streets!!! Something very, very wrong here!

The American people need to wake up from their slumber and start advocating Re-ALLOCATION of some of that money BACK into their pockets via Taxes. The Rich need to pay their fair share.

 

dnarnadem
dotymed Great piece! Any

dotymed

Great piece! Any chance you will convince any of the Right Wingers in this Blog? Your chances are 0!

What Reagan started we are reaping today. De-regulation of the Banks and Corporations - Union busting - less taxes for the rich - more taxes for the workers - sweeping privatization of federal jobs (which was and still is a disaster by the way!) - Voodoo economics – demonizing of public education – abortion - I mean on and on, and the right wing dingbats are still at it today with even more ferocity!

We are where we are today because of Reagan and his childish and simplistic ideology. An ideology that has about as much reality as a Unicorn or a Blue Moose! It is absurd nonsense.

But there are people who are making this into law of the land and it is dangerous to our Democracy. You may very well BELIEVE that paying no taxes is a GOOD thing, but collecting no taxes, does not get any bills paid. That is the why of deficits. And that is why Reagan and his cronies left one the BIGGEST deficits in modern history! And it has been increasing ever since.

How anyone can believe that you can fight trillion dollar wars and not collect taxes to pay for them is a LUNATIC! Yet that is the platform of the Republican Party! Never mind all the SOCIAL programs they demonize and hate, but Wars, Armies, Prisons, Hugh Police Forces, Homeland Security – etc. that costs trillions; hey, we don’t need to collect taxes to pay that, at least taxes from the super-rich; we’ll just tax the poor and blame them for all the ills of the land!

Shear Lunacy! And yet 50 per cent of Americans buy into this crap! They literally believe this nonsense being fed to them via fox noise and corporate media.

Reagan and his ilk are nut-jobs! And dangerous ones!

 

dnarnadem
Don't know about Jesus as he

Don't know about Jesus as he was Jewish and he taught redemption to his people - but Paul most certainly was, as his message was ecumenical and he wanted to preach the word of Jesus to the non-jewish citizens of the then Roman Empire. And the target of his message were the People, not the ruling elite!

dnarnadem
You still don’t get it! But

You still don’t get it! But then again, that is NOT a surprise!

Democrats, you see, are more conciliatory and want what is best for the American People. So they WORKED with Reagan.

With Republicans it's either my way or the Highway! See the difference.

Also, Reagan was as WHITE as they come! WHITE Democratic senators and congressmen working with WHITE republican Presidents is no big hardship.

Now President Obama is BLACK. And I believe ALL the Republican Senators and most if not all Republican Congressman are WHITE. It is no secret that the Republican Party today is bit racist. From day one the Republicans STOPPED working with Obama and the Democrats. It is not that Obama has not tried to get the Republicans to work with him; it is the Republican Party Platform and AGENDA to NOT work with him! They want him to Fail!

As to jobs bills - It is the CONGRESS who holds the purse and therefore it is Congresses job to introduce Jobs Bills, send them to the Senate and then signed by the President. If you have none coming forward, who cares when they will be introduced in the Budget! (Also, bills in the double digits on Abortion and NONE on ideas on how to create jobs, tells you exactly where the present Congress is on the Job problem – trying to control women’s uteruses!) And you gotta love that bit about "Business (sic) grow by taking risks, seizing on opportunities (sic), planning and executing. Having a clear vision of what they want to accomplish"!! That has to be the biggest bit of BS I've read in ages! Under Bush, corporations had the biggest tax breaks in history! Eight Years! And how many jobs created? 1 million or less! Under the Clinton years they paid way more taxes and 25 Million jobs were created! And all those Corporations are still under the Bush Tax cuts today - how many jobs have they created and new businesses created since Obama came into office? Practically none! (And in fact, 10 of these Corporations have paid NO taxes whatsoever in the last 2-3 years! And they made over 100 Billion in Profits! And they downsized their workforces to boot!) Need I mention that under Reagan, even with all the Tax Breaks, bank and business de-regulations and Free Trade, the manufacturing businesses and jobs here in the United States DISAPPEARED to the tune 1000s of businesses and Millions of Jobs! Those idealist Risk Takers and opportunists you extoll, they went to CHINA!

And that last bit about government stimulus being too weak to work. It is not meant to replace Capitalism. It is meant to prime the pump. Circulate the money, create jobs, people have money to spend, Business can be created, more jobs can then be created. THEN it becomes the job of those risk takers you so eulogize, to become creative, brave and grasp the opportunities! But when the economy is in the doldrums, it is not the Brave corporations who stimulate, it is the government: as the brave corporations are too busy trying to save their money and close down their businesses! (Obama saved GM and Chrysler. Saved Millions of jobs. And saved1000s of supportive business with stimulus money or loans! The republicans wanted to have those businesses fail! The money lent has been paid way in advance. Yet, from your perspective this was a total failure! Need I add, that the stimulus provided by Obama, was done under a DEMOCRATIC controlled congress. If he tried this tomorrow he’d be laughed out of the house by the REPUBLICAN controlled congress today, and GM and Chrysler would be a thing of the past!)

And again, quit it with the Mr. Still makes you look foolish. As far as I’m concerned this is a gender free blog. Let’s keep it that way.

dnarnadem
About friggin time! About

About friggin time! About time someone went after fox noise propaganda!

God Bless America!

dnarnadem
Bravo bvcardinal! My

Bravo bvcardinal! My sentiments exactly. But try saying that to the Obama haters and corporate lobbyists who write in this blog! In fact they believe the exact opposite.

dnarnadem
{"White House Adds New

{"White House Adds New Position to Deal with Unfavorable Online Media"
Obama just created a new position to clamp down on what people say on-line about his administration.}

I was reading this again. Classic case of how word use can be used to distort!

First read the quote - see where it says ...Deal with Unfavorable Online Media"

Now Palindromadary states ..." clamp down on what people Say on-line...". as if the new office is a dictatorial inquisitional type office! It is NO SUCH thing! As I read the quote, the new office will respond to unfavorable comments or distortions or just outright lying by those whose primary agenda is to distort the truth! And, as I stated earlier - BOUT FRIGGIN TIME!!

Palinodromadary – an individual who has ulterior motives and whose hatred of Obama distorts his sensibilities!

 

dnarnadem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory

Check It out. A nice intro. The idea of Purgatory as a Place certainly did not appear before 1100 as part of Catholic doctrine. Ancient belief held that one could be purified in an intermediate place, but only the Catholic Church have it as a doctrine that one's soul could be saved in such a place.

BEWARE: when dealing with Catholic Theology, you are entering Dante's Inferno!!

Palindromedary
http://www.youtube.com/user/a

http://www.youtube.com/user/ae911truth?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/5nvWh2aTdCs
http://www.youtube.com/user/ae911truth?feature=mhum#p/a/u/2/u5IgqJXyLbg

dinachap
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That 'all comes down from

That 'all comes down from above' is an illusion.  What seems an inherent social conscience has determined our course;--been the 'master' we followed;--what overcame physical obstacles,--and moved human laws toward compliance with an ideal called justice. 

 

2950-10K
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Elioflight, thanks for the

Elioflight, thanks for the comment. I was trying to recall, wasn't Gerry Brown speaking out against PAC money decades ago and everyone was trying to label him a kook?  He was right then and you're right on target now, I agree! 

2950-10K
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dnarnadem, I think people

dnarnadem, I think people will finally wake up when the teabaggers in the house of rep. crash the global economy later this summer. I truly believe, unless Obama gives in, these rightwing terrorists will not allow the debt ceiling to be raised!..... Keep up the good fight!

Barbazza
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really, you don't know why

really, you don't know why that is?  somehow i don't believe you.  me thinks you are playing devils advocate, so i'll bite in order to flush you out:

its simple really, in general liberals (democrats) are people who share and who are compassionate and therefore they are compromisers; whereas conservatives (republicans) are greedy, arrogant, power hungry jerks who refuse to compromise with anyone, especially those who hope to help the less fortunate in our society.  keeping that truth in mind, its easy to see how when a republican is president he can get things done with a democratically controlled congress and when a democrat is in office he faces opposition regardless of which party is in control of congress because the republicans will use whatever means necessary to block an agenda which is for the betterment of society as opposed to the betterment of their and their corporate sponsors wallets.  case in point, Obama's first two years in office.  you're right; he had majorities in both houses.  unfortunately, dems didn't have a super majority (60 votes) in the senate to avoid a filibuster and the republicans shattered all records for the amount of times the filibuster was used.  in fact, republicans are still blocking Obama's nominations so our gov't isn't really working properly.  its crazy really.  republicans have one thing in mind: make Obama look bad so they can blame him for their mistakes and take back control in 2012.  forget about getting out of the recession; they want to prolong the recession so they can call it Obama's recession as opposed to Bush's....which we all know it is...

now that i've taken your bait and stepped in your proverbial $h1t, I await your partisan, baloney response....

Richard Lefew
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I was listening to Thom's

I was listening to Thom's show today, and he was espousing ideas, similar to the ideas in the article.  He was adamant in saying that the way to create jobs was to put money into the hands of the unemployed, the lower classes, and that they will then consume, thus stimulating the economy and creating jobs.

While this may sound rational, this type of stimulus is a banker's/capitalists'/big crooked corporations' dream come true!  When you put money into week hands, it's soon removed by the big corporations, the medical monopolies, and the big banks.  Giving out spending money, to promote consumerism is a horrible idea, and Thom was very sincere in stating that this was the way to bring the economy back.

What we have is monetary dis-equilibrium.  When you put money into the hands of "consumers" they will most certainly consume, using interest bearing credit.  Since the big corporations, who manufacture all their goods overseas will be the beneficiary of this "stimulus", it won't do the middle, or lower classes any good, beyond giving them some new baubles, or trinkets to clutter their apartment with.

The caller he was talking to had a better idea, in the proposal to promote small businesses through tax incentives.  Thom didn't like this at all!  He likened it to giving money to "Fat Cats".  Thom is associating small businesses with multi-national corporations.  What Thom should first consider is that big corporations, such as Obama's favorite, GE don't pay ANY TAX, while taking full advantage of the commons and the government services that make their business much more profitable.  The multi-nationals are also "in the market" for cheap labor, and more "efficient" regulations, which means they will go to the country with the lowest prevailing wages, and the least amount of environmental and worker protection regulations.

Since the "Fat Cats" already don't pay any taxes, and the lowest prices on wages, there has to be some effort to give the little businesses a chance to compete.  The robber barrons are here, they just stay in the shadows, and like Nelson Rockefeller said..."competition is a sin" amongst the big politically connected corporations.  So putting money into the hands of mindless, jobless "consumers", while great for banks and big corporations, won't do anything to raise the living standards of the lower and middle classes.

The only way to really give the lower and middle classes a real chance to improve their lives is to give them a stake in the system.  Facilitate a business environment that allows small business to employ people, at a decent wage, in a job that is meaningful.  That means eliminating the massive red-tape and government regulations that stiffle free enterprise.  It means leveling the playing field and putting up some common sense tarrifs on goods imported from places that have much lower living standards.

Prior to the progressive Woodrow Wilson, the U.S.A. enjoyed 100 years of economic growth, funding the government entirely through import duties on business and corporations, and excise taxes, fully apportioned and consistent with the taxing power granted to the government in the Constitution.  Then, in a revolutionary move, the big banksters, working with the Wilson administration changed everything in favor of the big monopolies by funding the government through personal income taxes on the working class!  Giving the corporation the biggest tax break in HISTORY!

Our country was not founded as a Capitalist nation.  The vast majority of us are not capitalists.  A Capitalist is a banker, or someone endowed with the privilege of creating credit out of book entries.  The ability to engage in fractional reserve banking, making money out of nothing, and earning interest on it.  Our Nation was founded on the ideal of "free enterprise" and limited government.  Capitalism is an elitist control mechanism, the modern version of fuedalism, where the endentured servant fastens his own chains, and maintains his own prison, giving all of his labors to the bankers.  We are merely units of capital, on the capitalist's ledgers.

Thom, I agree with you in principal, but I believe your practical solutions will actually make things alot worse for the average american.  Think: taxing imports, not handing out borrowed money to consumers.  Think "Made in America", not "Paid in America, Made In China".

Our biggest problem by far is the fact that as a nation, we don't manufacture our own goods.  The second, or equally as big a problem is the privileges the government grants to certain individuals and corporations to create credit (which is money, it spends the same) out of nothing, and earns interest on it.  Fractional Reserve Banking is the most elitist system of neofeudalism ever created. 

Kenneth Howe
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  After the Civil War the

 

After the Civil War the Republican members of Congress were called Radical Republicans because they changed the power of state governments and the federal government in radical ways.  The current Republican party needs to be called the Regressive Republicans because they want the nation to regress to times before the New Deal, Medicare, a Progressive Income Tax, and labor rights.  For example their concept of health savings accounts is identical to the "health program" by grandparents had.  My grandparents paid medical expenses with the money they saved.  Most Americans did not receive much medical care in the past under this savings program and women died in childbirth like my wife's grandmother.

jaykaygee43
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Corporatism is the combined

Corporatism is the combined actions of corporations: by definition, unnatural persons.  Mostly, they don't die.  Also, Milton Friedman rationalized the notion that corporations have no obligation to anyone except their shareholders.  In real life the managers of corporations feel no loyalty to anybody except themselves: often the largest of the shareholders, or else, the very highly paid lackeys of the largest shareholders.    

Labor fought hard for a place at the table to negotiate working conditions and a smidgen of authority.  Never a majority of votes on any corporate board.  

Government implies too many different entities to discuss in this limited forum.  Sometimes it was municipalities: remember 1960s New Haven, inspiration for N.Y.C. Mayor John Lindsay?  How to expand the cash flow in a big city to improve the standard of living and the attraction of business and industry to the city?     Borrow, borrow, borrow.        After, "Fun City" which did a great many good things: planted trees, supported development of block associations, made Central Park safe by putting Shakespeare and music in the Park, poor old Mayor Abe Beame confronted the bill for the interest payments for all the borrowed money.     Fortunately, the block associations had taught New Yorkers how to pull together and do more to take care of themselves, like manage despite the ghastly trash removal crisis.  

And New Yorkers started selling their belongings - displayed on blankets spread on the sidewalks - and rents began to rise until reaching the shocking heights they now have achieved.  The reliable subways became dilapidated and lacked adequate money to pay sufficient employees and maintain the equipment.    The city continued to pay on the exorbitant price that had been agreed to by corrupt officials back in the day when the privately run subway train companies were sold to the city despite their terrible financial status.  The city could have seized them.  But chose to take the money paid by the owners for the purchase price.  

All that borrowing seemed like a really good idea at the time.  The City got more liveable.  

But, now, we have to ask whether the shareholders are Americans, feeling any loyalty to our beloved nation.  Or are the government officials on the receiving end of  huge amounts of cash and prestige provided by oil magnates - international oil magnates - and mine owners, and agri-business holders of patents on genetically modified plants that are bred to produce sterile seeds, whose pollen flies wherever the wind blows it, so besotted with the excessive money they demand or are offered, or both, that they lose the sense of connection with real people?

Corporatism is about the belief (NOT the fact, but they think it is) that corporations are the superior "persons" to manage the business of America.  Real flesh and blood people - especially the ones who sweat and bleed and weep to carry out their work - can be sacrificed.  All are, "soldiers,"but not the corporations, and those who act in and for the corporations.

National Socialism, (Nazis. fascists. NOT, democratic socialists).  

 

 

 

bicyclingjroad
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When you appoligize for the

When you appoligize for the name calling, and respond in an intelligent manner, I'll give you some answers.

SueN
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Please be civil to fellow

Please be civil to fellow members.