If we're going to coin a name for this generation, in the tradition of playing around near the end of the alphabet, it should be Generation W.
"Renaissance Thinking About the Issues of Our Day"
Young people have been hit hardest by Bush's banksters’ worldwide crash – with more than 75 million young people across the planet desperately looking for jobs. The number of unemployed people between the ages of 15 and 24 has increased by 4.6 million since the recession began in 2008. And the effects of this massive hit of joblessness among young people are on clear display in some of the most developed economies in the world in Europe and the United States. For example, in July of this year – what is normally the peak of youth summer employment – only 49% of young people were employed – the lowest rate ever recorded by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
These young people are the future leaders of our nation – and as we’re seeing with the riots in Greece and the U.K. – and the Occupy Wall Street movement growing here at home – young people are tired of seeing their future ruined by a continuation of 30 years of Reaganomics.
After all – what choice do they have? Live on the streets – or take to the streets. A great transformation is underway around the planet.
If we're going to coin a name for this generation, in the tradition of playing around near the end of the alphabet, it should be Generation W.
I remember a teacher in one of my college classes telling us students that throughout our history as people live longer and work longer there is a phenomenon that our society requires young people to stay in school longer to keep them outta the work force.
ALTHOUGH there may be some degree of this at play in the economy I still believe the rich are social darwinists. THEY believe the government should help the rich live long and prosper, not because of their race but because of their economic status. THE government should let the rich exploit the working class until they die from hard work and exhaustion. AND the government should just let the poor die off from starvation and disease because they will never amount to anything anyway and are just a drain on society.
Under_employed Underground. The UU generation. George UU Bush.
Question by Pat Prachter:
"teneraansis, palidromedary, and cygnus 1: can you guys tell people what they can be doing right now to change any part of this system? What kinds of financial acts? What social acts? What about buying strategies? How can people begin to empower themselves and their local communities right this minute, as we wait for the revolution of unfold. How can we be a part of it?"
Answer by Teneraansis:
"Mr. Prachter, I am pleased to be of service. In answer to your questions let me give you and your brave friends out in the streets this advice right from my own fingertips:
I advise all protesters to direct their energies not exclusively to occupy Wall Street but to also include demonstrations in front of administrative buildings of the U.S. military, the Federal Reserve, central bank buildings, the FBI, CIA, NSA and sundry police stations. Demonstrations in front of government buildings (the White House in your case) I believe are pointless, for the officials housed in them are puppets who will never cave in to public pressure for fear of offending their masters, the hidden hand of the elite. Appeals to elected representatives I find also a waste of time. Do not vandalise banks and government administrative buildings, nor overturn and burn vehicles, nor smash store front windows, nor fight the police, if you can help it.
Demonstrations in front of the Federal Reserve Bank should include a demand for monetizing (quantitative easing) to be applied for the benefit of the people without interest costs to the taxpayers. A call for erasing the entire national debt of 14,5 trillion dollars would also be appropriate for it is just as easy to erase a standing debt as it is to create credit.
The leaders among you should now retreat and begin networking among each other as the winter approaches, and exchange with each other all vital information pertaining to strategy for the time when spring arrives. Collect as many names of politicians and elite 1%'ers dictating iniquity from the top down, including the places of their residence, their friends, connections to organizations they control, clubs (secret or open) they belong to, as well as the names of all "eyes" who spy on their behalf and are known to be devout supporters of elite iniquity. Your listings will grow into the thousands, I believe. On this one you must all put your heads together and work through social networking interlinking. All such information must be shared by all and yet kept as tightly secured as technology permits.
In addition to the above you must collect all names and addresses from people in authoritative control of the following governmental departments. These names will hopefully become the names of all your friends:
a) all military generals and their high-ranking officers,
b) all FBI police chiefs and their administrative staff members,
c) all CIA officers and their administrative staff members,
d) all NSA officers and their administrative staff members,
e) all sherrifs throughout the country, and all police chiefs.
You must befriend all patriotic defence organizations dedicated to the carrying of arms, Gun clubs, etc. Your arsenal of information must be tight and flawless in its accuracy.
When spring arrives and the weather has cleared from winter's frost, select the following targets for demonstrations with banners and placards:
a) all military administrative buildings, including the Pentagon
b) all CIA administrative buildings
c) all FBI administrative buildings
d) all NSA administrative buildings
e) all police administrative buildings
Demonstrate peacefully and without provocation. Should your people become brutalized or shot at by authories under elite control, then retreat for your safety's sake, and for the next demonstration surround yourself with massive number of armed patriots and gun club members for your protection the second time around. These fine people are enraged with the corrupt order, and will fire to kill anyone posing an actual threat to the safety of any demonstrator.
Chances are that by spring you may already have garnered military support, for the time between now and next year will give military leaders enough time the decide what to do before the masses begin surrounding their buildings and offices. They may by that time already have decided to give you potection rather than await the demonstrators with a confrontational attitude. Should that support from the military leadership be forthcoming, then the FBI, CIA, NSA, and sundry other police forces all follow suit. However, positive military support remains an unknown factor for now.
And finally, should you by then have succeeded in gaining official protection from all authorities, then hand over your lists of all personages having betrayed their offices of public trust for arrest and possible prosecution for crimes they may have commited against you, the public."
I tried to introduce info published in Wash Post today and got run by Thom. I wasn't defending or supporting it, just wanted a take on whether the Occupy Wall Street was focused in the right direction?!
Wall St. cash still backing ObamaHe out-raisesGOP candidates DNC money gives president an advantageBy Dan Eggen, Wednesday, October 19,11:48 PM
Despite frosty relations with the titans of Wall Street, President Obama has still managed to raise far more money this year from the financial and banking sector than Mitt Romney or any other Republican presidential candidate, according to new fundraising data.
Obama’s key advantage over the GOP field is the ability to collect bigger checks because he raises money for both his own campaign committee and for the Democratic National Committee, which will aid in his reelection effort.
As a result, Obama has brought in more money from employees of banks, hedge funds and other financial service companies than all of the GOP candidates combined, according to a Washington Post analysis of contribution data. The numbers show that Obama retains a persistent reservoir of support among Democratic financiers who have backed him since he was an underdog presidential candidate four years ago.
Obama’s fundraising advantage is clear in the case of Bain Capital, the Boston-based private-equity firm that was co-founded by Romney, and where the Republican made his fortune. Not surprisingly, Romneyhas strong support at the firm, raking in $34,000 from 18 Bain employees, according to the analysis of data from the Center for Responsive Politics.
But Obama has outdone Romney on his own turf, collecting $76,600 from Bain Capital employees through September — and he needed only three donors to do it.
The battle for Wall Street cash has become a crucial subtext in the 2012 campaign, which is shaping up to focus heavily on federal banking and markets policies and the struggling economy.
Top Republicans have courted major U.S. bank executives and financiers, arguing that Obama’s policies have hurt them, while Democrats are seeking to turn the erosion of support on Wall Street to their populist advantage.
Channeling ‘Occupy’ anger
Obama’s ties to Wall Street donors could complicate Democratic plans to paint Republicans as puppets of the financial industry, particularly in light of the Occupy Wall Street protests that have gone global over the past week.
In response to the protests, the Obama campaign and other Democrats have stepped up their attacks onRomney and other Republicans for their opposition to Wall Street regulations.
One top banking executive who raises money for Obama, discussing fundraising efforts on the condition of anonymity, said reports of disaffection with the president “are exaggerated and overblown.” He said a strong contingent of financiers in New York, Chicago and California remains supportive of Obama and his economic policies, even as some have turned on him.
But, this donor added, “it probably helps from a political perspective if he’s not seen as a Wall Street guy.”
Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said the former Massachusetts governor’s success in the financial sector is evidence of the business community’s confidence in him as well as its unhappiness with Obama.
Donors support Romney because of “the state of the economy and the president’s failure to create jobs,” she said. “President Obama and his campaign will say anything to distract voters from his failed economic record.”
Unlike the Republican candidates, Obama can raise money for both his own campaign account, which can take donations up to $5,000 for the 2012 cycle, and for his party’s national committee, which can accept $30,800 per individual each calendar year. The same donors will be able to give another $30,800 to the DNC next year.
The result is more money from fewer donors in the finance business.
Obama has raised a total of $15.6 million from employees in the industry, according to the Post analysis. Nearly $12 million of that went to the DNC, the analysis shows.
Romney has raised less than half that much from the industry, while Texas Gov. Rick Perry brought in about $2 million. No other Republican candidate has raised more than $402,000 from the finance sector, which also includes insurance and real estate interests.
Even so, Obama clearly has trouble appealing to Wall Street fundraisers, who have emerged in recent years as among the most important sources of campaign cash for major national politicians.
Put aside the DNC money, for example, and Obama’s numbers look much worse: just $3.9 million from the financial sector, compared with Romney’s $7.5 million.
Obama’s campaign committee has raised notably less money from major banking firms such as Goldman Sachs, whose employees gave him more than $1 million in the 2008 cycle. So far this year, about two dozen Goldman employees together have given Obama’s committee about $45,000, one-sixth of the amount Romney’s campaign has taken in.
But six Goldman employees also gave a total of $92,000 to the DNC side of Obama’s fundraising effort.
The news media are putting up pictures of Ghadafi, now that he's been murdered, saying something like "live by the sword, die by the sword"...but..but..isn't that what the US does itself. The US holds itself up to be a model for all others to follow and brags about democracy and rule of laws but when it comes to people like Osama bin Laden or Moamar Ghadafi it thinks that it is ok to violate those principles. I don't know who it was that killed Khadafi, NATO, the US, or rebels but we do know that the US murdered the unarmed Osama bin Laden in his home right in front of his wife and then dumped the body in the sea. If the US no longer lives by the rule of law and "lives by the sword" then....
I guess the US thinks it is alright to go into other countries and assassinate people our ruling elite doesn't like....what goes around often comes around especially if you are setting precedence...you are setting the example for others to follow and your words of democracy, jurisprudence, and rule by law all ring hollow and are just as meaningless as any two-bit right-wing dictator in some banana republic. Although these right-wing dictators, ruthless murdering thugs are often viewed by the US as allies, if we can no longer jerk them around to our whims then we assassinate them if we can't depose them through covert subversion.
I don't know if some of what is happening in these Middle East countries is being instigated and fomented by covert 3-letter organizations or if the people are rising up on their own. After reading some of the pieces from www.projectcensored.org ...I wonder...like:
"Operation Earnest Voice (OEV), which was first developed in Iraq as a psychological warfare weapon against the online presence of al-Qaida supporters and other extremists resisting the US military and political presence in Iraq.".... and their current program to manipulate what Americans think and believe:
"The US military is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-American propaganda."
"...will allow one US serviceman and woman to control up to 10 separate identities based all over the world."
...makes me wonder how many of those object-oriented pasties have infiltrated our favorite progressive blogs with a right-wing manipulative agenda.
Problem with these US covert operations is that they usually end up being blown back our way...it's called "blow back". What these covert operations hoped to achieve in other countries end up coming back to bite them. Keep on truckin' Occupy Wall Street..you are doing honorable and worthy deeds...you are all heros...maybe we can oust a few of our own ruthless dictators.
Of course, it is quite obvious to most of us that Obama is owned by Wall Street. The Republicans would like to be in overt power but their taskmasters, the ruling elite, know that if they put the Republicans back into power that they would have a really big problem with the masses, the 99%, of the people they screwed all these years. The ruling elite, the ones backing Obama, knows that they have a better chance of beguiling the masses with someone who poses as a Democrat especially if they put up a bunch of clown Republican candidates who make fools of themselves and make Democrats think "oh wow, what if one of these idiots actually get into the White House...yup, we have no other choice but to vote Obama back for another term..despite his dismal record of helping the ruling elite with their agenda."
If it is a choice between those right-wing idiots or the one currently in the white house...that is no choice at all! We're doomed either way...unless the Occupy Wall Street protests grow and keep it up till it forces change in our direction.
With communications being so advanced around the world, today, the US can no longer hide what it has been doing for decades. It, now, must take credit and consequences in a "real-time" world. There are few real secrets, or those that last very long. Criminals lie when caught to force controversy and, hopefully, confusion....the current successful US gov't approach to everything.
When you, the people, surround the police stations, here is a slogan you may wish to call out and place in written print upon your huge placards:
WE, THE PEOPLE, PAY YOUR WAGES. YOU WORK FOR US! IF NOT WITH US.
Today, the Libyian leader, Colonel Qadaffit was shot and killed.
"US President Barack Obama reacts to the death of former Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi, claiming that it has put an end to a long, painful chapter for Libyans that now have a chance to build a "democratic" and "tolerant" nation.
"The report that the evasive Libyan ruler Colonel Muammar Gaddafi has died as a result of the wounds he sustained during a NATO attack has flung the Libyans into a jubilant frenzy while it has provoked mixed reactions from the political observers who may eye the event with reasonable degree of suspicion.
"He (Gaddafi) was also hit in his head," National Transitional Council official Abdel Majid Mlegta told Reuters. "There was a lot of firing against his group and he died." Press TV - Iran
Iraq did not deserve what it got from the American guns and bombs, many NATO members were also there adding their wickedness against the people. Dissidents across the borders in western countries were already counting Iraq's wealth into their own bank accounts, and yet had absolutely no leadership qualities among them, no idea of how to build a paradise for the people, and exibited absolutely no love for the people, themselves.
The White House was told by Arab Leaders that to oust the (demonized) President Saddam Hussein would be fatal for Iraq and would result in chaos for decades to come.
The White House did not listen.
President Saddam Hussein was not as hated by his people as many would have you believe. Had he been, he certainly would not have stashed firearms and told his people where they all were in order for the ordinary citizen to protect him or herself from the invaders and occupiers.
Iraq did not deserve what it got. President Herbert Bush Sr. ordered the oil wells of Kuwait to be set on fire, and this later was confirmed by the very fed-up-with-White-House-lies America Veterans.
Please bear with me, as I continue.
Lybia, on the other hand is getting exactly what it deserves!
The Revolution in Libya HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH DEMOCRACY, NOR DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH A BETTER LIFE OF LIBERTY FOR THE PEOPLE!
IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH PURE AND ADOLTERATED ANARCHY! AND NOTHING LESS!
A NEW GOVERNMENT OF BARBARIC THUGS HAVE ALREADY SOLD THE LIBYIAN PEOPLE OUT TO THE CORPORATE BANKERS AND THEIR 1% IN ORDER TO LACE THEIR OWN POCKETS WITH THE OIL REVENUES AND THE REVENUES WHICH THE AMERICAN PENTAGON STOLE FROM LIBYA AND PLACED INSIDE CANADIAN BANKS, AS THEY DID TO IRAQ IN THE ESCROW ACCOUNT WHICH WAS THEN PILLAGED AND PLUNDERED BY THOSE WHO KEPT IRAQ UNDER SANCTIONS INCLUDING THE THEN SECRETARY GENERAL KOFI ANNAN'S OWN SON!
EVEN AFTER PRESIDENT SADDAM WAS REMOVED FROM POWER, SANCTIONS STILL DID NOT COME OFF AND THE OCCUPATION OF AMERICAN FORCES AND THEIR ALLIES DID NOT CEASE!
DEMOCRACY IN LIBYA WITH A NEWLY RECOGNIZED GOVERNMENT WHICH COMPLETELY IGNORES THE VERY BASIC IN HUMAN RIGHTS AND THAT IS A RIGHT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE PROTECTED BY DUE PROCESS OF LAW. THE UNITED NATIONS ACKNOWLEDGES THIS RIGHT, AND YOU CANNOT JUST GO AROUND MURDERING PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH THEIR PHILOSOPHY!
COLONEL QADAFFI SPOKE AT THE U.N. WITH ONE VOICE BESIDE THAT OF PRESIDENT MAHMOUND AHMADINEJADTELLING THE WORLD WHAT INDEED WAS HAPPENING TO HIS COUNTRY AS WELL AS TO OTHER NATIONS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA, AND THE AMERICANS AND THEIR CRONIES ALL WALKED OUT!
THE TRUTH HURTS DOES IT NOT?!
COLONEL QADAFFI OPENED HIS OWN BANK WITH HIS OWN CURRENCY AWAY FROM THE WORLD BANK, IMF AND GLOBALIZED CAPITALISM. HE INVENTED HIS OWN WATER SYSTEM TO PURIFY THE WATER FOR THE PEOPLE AND HE INTENDED UPON SHARING THIS INVENTION WITH ALL OF AFRICA OF WHICH HE WAS TRYING TO UNIFY.
THE 1% HAD TO UTILIZE NATO AND AMERICAN FORCES TO STOP THIS "OUTRAGE AGAINST THEIR BANKING SYSTEM" AND GARNER FOR THEMSELVES COLONEL QADAFFI'S BRILLIANT INVENTION OF THE WATER SYSTEM FOR THE BENEFIT OF ISRAEL IN ORDER THAT ISRAEL HAS THE POWER OVER ALL THE NORTHERN ARAB NATIONS THROUGH USURY AGAINST ALL THOSE WHO NEED WATER FOR THEIR DAILY LIVING.
NOW, IN ORDER TO DO THAT ISRAEL NEEDS THE SYRIAN WATERWAYS AND GREAT LAKE, AND SO THE FOREIGN TROOPS, THE MOSSAD, THE CIA AND BLACKWATER NEED TO REMOVE THE PRESIDENT OF SYRIA WHO GIVES IMMUNITY TO SOME OF HAMAS' LEADERSHIP AND BACKS THE HEZBOLLAH WHO ARE THE RETAINING FORCE BETWEEN ISRAEL AND SYRIA FROM A FULL OCCUPATION OF SYRIA BY ISRAEL AND THE UNITED STATES.
PRESIDENT BASHAR AL ASSAD IS A GOOD MAN AND WANTS TO DO EVERYTHING HE CAN FOR THE PEOPLE WHILST KEEPING ISRAEL AND FOREIGN FORCES AT BAY. HOWEVER, HE DOES NOT NEED FOUR MONTHS TO REVISE THE CONSTITUTION! ANY CONSTITUTION CAN BE REVISED IN THE HERE AND NOW. BUT UNDER A BRAND NEW PARADISAICAL SYSTEM NO TYPE OF CONSTITUTION NEED BE REVISED BUT RE-WRITTEN FROM BASE ONE.
The Revolution of the United States would lose all credibitity if it were to take the same steps as the greedy Libyan thugs! THAT IS NOT FREEDOM! THAT IS PURE ANARCHY AND HAS ITS BASE PURELY IN GREEDINESS, POWER, AND A COMPLETE LACK OF SELF-CONTROL AND A BREAKING OF ALL BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS!
THE REVOLUTION IN THE UNITED STATES MUST PERFORM ITSELF IN A WISE, FIRM, UNCOMPROMISING AND LOGICAL ATMOSPHERE, OTHERWISE THIS REVOLUTION WILL GARNER NO RESULTS AND WILL END UP BENEFICIAL TO NO ONE.
SINCERCELY WE TELL YOU THIS: LIBYA WILL TURN OUT EXACTLY LIKE IRAQ. IRAQ HOWEVER DID NOT DESERVE WHAT CAME TO IT - LIBYA HOWEVER DESERVES EXACTLY WHAT IS COMING TO IT FOR THEY FOUGHT FOR THE 1% AND THEIR POWERHOLD OVER THE LIBYAN PEOPLE.
Interesting. We have now heard all about the politicians and the banks and corporate funders but nothing about the people.
The money system has to go otherwise there will be no true liberty and freedom for the people on any level.
In order to garner any leadership position, one must first be able to not only understand the principles of the present banking system (for that is not enough by far), but one must be able to define the solution not only in principle but in a detailed workable fashion.
A good start would be for the Wall Street Occupiers to state a goal of theirs is to have the bailout monies returned to the gov't for use on infrastructure needs. If this was made as a clear mandate of this effort and openly endorsed by Pres Obama and Dem's, in the form of a bill sent to Congress, it would start a strategy of focus that has been murky to this pt.
Right on, Cynus1! You are right, of course!
"COLONEL QADAFFI SPOKE AT THE U.N. WITH ONE VOICE BESIDE THAT OF PRESIDENT MAHMOUND AHMADINEJADTELLING THE WORLD WHAT INDEED WAS HAPPENING TO HIS COUNTRY AS WELL AS TO OTHER NATIONS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA, AND THE AMERICANS AND THEIR CRONIES ALL WALKED OUT!"
I watched Ahmadinejad speak at the UN and agreed with most everything he said. And then the network cut him off. Not surprising in a fascist corporate/state controlled press. I wonder how much longer it will be before the US assassinates Ahmadinejad too? I wonder how much longer it will be before the US starts sending in their unmanned drones into Iran to murder even more innocent civilians in that country?
I wonder if they are going to dump Qadaffi's body in the sea like they did OBL?
"Brains! More Brains! We want brains!" --The Return Of The Living Dead
"Oil! More Oil! We want Oil!" --The World According to Bush Obama (or just "BO") -- "at least mine was removed surgically!"--not!
lets not forget Rummy Rice Cheney / Goldman Fed boys- Greendpan Rubin Sommers Paulson Bernacki / 5 very con judges
Lets clarify Obama did NOT lie us into Iraq killing maiming, making more enemies. Gift to Al quada - did not start 2 long failed wars based on fear & profits- did not give huge corp cuts- loopholes OIL subsides.. Did not leave us with a global crash / depression / TARP scam on taxpayers . Obama DID get that dumped in his lap in Jan 2009. Obama did have to deal with GOP Bagger Congress who stalled, lied, blocked, smeared, filibustered 100 's of times on bills they used to like.
The word 'rich' comes from the old Germanic word 'ric', related to Celtic 'rix' and Latin 'rex', king, ruler. Democracy is the enemy of kings.
True...Obama didn't start it but he continued it with all the assistance he could to those who did start it. Contrary to his original tone when he wanted to get elected...he revealed his true colors by his continued actions...which were far from being progressive...being even more right of center than some Republican presidents. Obama is not our friend. Wall Street owns Obama!
When I was sixteen I had little concern about my future except for the war in Viet Nam. I had a girlfriend and a hot car I dumped gallons of gas through while cruising. Gas was 27 cents a gallon for Chevron Custom Supreme, the street racers preferred fuel. I could listen to everyone from the Stones to Hank Williams on one am radio station. A pack of Marlboros was 25 cents a pack and a quart of olympia beer was roughly about the same. All a young teenage bronkin buck needed for a good weekend. I worked summers in a cannery and winters on a farm. I had the world by the tail. Viet Nam changed everything for most of us. Our homeland became a mass of let downs and employment confusion. Most traditional occupations were replaced by computerized technology. Even accounting is the newest casualty of quick books and easy tax filing software. I feel really bad for our young people today. I don't blame them for their frustration. I have to say I would support every effort to reinvent business and social conscience. I had it really good compared to todays young person. We have reached a time where the older citizens are in debt to the new generation rather than the other way around.
Sheik Osamah ibn Laden is a man with a huge warm heart. Not once did he differentiate between one sect and another, between, Arabs or Sunni Muslim, or Shiite Muslim. He spoke out for Iraq and Afghanistan as being one people linked with all other people to work together for the good of all people. Even though the Iraqis at the time had issue with the Afghani, it was of no consequence to Osamah, for he well understood the principle of the oneness in true unity for all of humanity. Though he had never met President Saddam Hussein, they stood shoulder to shoulder with each other in this principle and understanding of true brotherhood and sisterhood equality.
As for every man or women whom the Pentagon and White House say their forces kill, not everything is as it might seem. Sheik Osamah's second in command the Egyptian Sheik (I do not remember his name offhand), was a man whom the Pentagon and White House "killed" 3 to 4 times. Hollywood is often at their disposal. The Pentagon does this in order to "dissuade" the Afghanis from fighting against the occupation of their country and against the theft of their oil, gas and opium crop. The CIA brought that back into existence.
I do not somehow believe that as far as President Ahmadinejad is concerned that the forces of the 1% will manage to get to him all that easily. Events are coming to a head very quickly and President Ahmadinejad is arm in arm with the good King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. The west subtly wants to make his Saudi Excellency appear as a wicked man, instead of the man he is with a most generious heart, and therein forments trouble in eastern Saudi Arabia and in Yemen in order to drag Saudi Arabia into the Revolution through the uprising of the Shiites, which unfortunatly, the Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamene of Iran is doing his best also to achieve due to the American Pentagon's misrepresentation of King Abdullah ibn Abdul Aziz.
It is interesting how the media displays the Interior and Intelligence Minister Prince Nayaf ibn Abdul Aziz as a monster and responsible for all Saudi forces inside of Bahrain when it is not he who is even in charge of the Saudi military, but Crown Prince Sultan ibn Abdul Aziz.
Whilst the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad comfortably befriends King Abdullah ibn Abdul Aziz ibn Abdulrahman Aziz, the Pentagon leaks out through Wikileaks a chapter on how the Saudi Government wishes the U.S. to attack Iran. This could not be further from the truth. This was to bring tension between Iran and Saudi Arabia and the good relations between the two peoples and leaderships. Saudi Arabia has over three hundred bombers all pointed at Israel and not Iran. They do not like unrest on their borders but this goes even further than that.
Several years ago, gold was found in Saudi Arabia in "little mountains" and the Saudi Goverment would not allow foreign forces to excavate it and ship it off to market.The west wants this gold. This was when his Excellency Fahad was King.
If President Obama had half the backbone of Sheik Osamah ibn Laden and one sixteenth of his love for the people, the United States would be in a much better proposition to lead the world into transition of a system worthy of the people, under his, Obama's command, for he would then listen to those who know exactly what to do to bring this about for the people.
Unfortunately, President Obama and "his regime" work not only for Wall Street as run by the 1%, but it goes further than that, he works directly for Israel using the American people as their pawns for war and money. Slavery on both fronts.
I hope this has been of some help.
I would add tp the above that during the winter months the jobless youth can peacefully boycott establishments and businesses owned by the uber-wealthy and enlist their friends to do the same. This takes some research, for which they are well-equipped technologically, to determine the businesses owned by such as the Koch brothers, Rupert Murdoch and any of those heavily financing our politicians directly or indirectly.. Then use their creativity to make posters, being careful about grammar,, wording and staying on point. For instance, the Koch Brothers own a paper company that makes Dixie cups, for instance. Check with local authorities to be certain they are not violating any law by having a peaceful demonstration at the location they have chosen.Start simple (the old KISS slogan: "Keep it simple, stupid") with boycotting that brand of products, politely but resolutely being outside stores that carry the product they are boycotting. When they become more seasoned, then they can step into broader forms of protest-again peaceful and respectful.
You are still important and your effort toward this end, is valuable. We must all work together in synchronization to bring this about.
The new generation, as you call them, are many of the same people which lived upon this earth several lifesteams ago, whether one, two or more lifestreams is irrelevant. So those who built nothing in their previous lifestreams but instead followed the 1% time and time again, allowing their own destruction, will continue to place themselves back into like situation until they get it right. You could say you reap what you sow.
If we put poison in the water from pharmaceutical chemicals in one lifestream, we are going to drink it when we come back in the next.
The world which we create now is going to be the one which we will inherit tomorrow in our next incarnation.
So please do not be so hard on yourself and your generation, but instead see what you can do to improve the situation of all, for when you help everyone out of this bondage they are consistantly in, lifestream after lifestream, you are also improving your own situation..
We need to let youth know that they are very important to the success of our nation. Not simply from a financial perspective, but also from the point of our environment, our health, our food, our aged, all of which can effect either positively or negatively the future of our country. And we need to actively engage them in the dialogue from start to finish. That way, they will learn from us and we from them and perhaps we will find the way to a better nation.
Perhaps your reply was to #6
The beginning to internetting and data collecting has now begun. There have been other posts also doing the collecting of names such as " Rummy Rice Cheney / Goldman Fed boys- Greendpan Rubin Sommers Paulson Bernacki / 5 very con judges."
This is what you, the people, need to do among yourselves, for yourselves, in a well organized manner.
And the older generation has seen their hard-earned retirements being flushed down the drain during the recent voracious Wall St. speculation, plus being threatened with doing away with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, for we are "not worth the trouble or expense". That's exactly why I chose to align myself with the "Occupy Wall Street" movement at age 86, as it is an umbrealla organization for everyone whose rights have been trampled upon by the wealthy.
Let me begin by saying I supported Obama actively, but became disillusioned when I saw him using Bush and Clinton advisors in his cabinet. Right then I could see that we would be getting "more of the same", and we did. He is out on a road trip making more promises he cannot possibly carry out, while his backers are being very busy "bundling" hundreds of millions. The GOP are even worse. I decided that rather than beating my 86 year-old head against a stone wall, I would join a movement that seeks to completely reorganize our government through peaceful means, supported by millions of Americans who have been pushed into the gutter during the past 30 years or so. That movement is "Occupy Wall Street" and it is the most homogenous and unifying organization I have ever experienced. No promises, no empty rhetoric, no "big money" influence, no lies, no greed and no disonesty. What a refreshing wave has poured over those of us who see its promise and have joined its ranks!.
I think that it's time for the handful of activist baby boomers who know what it's like to take to the streets and feel empowered by the strong sense of community among each other to keep the momentum going, reach out and walk shoulder to shoulder with the Lost generation. They deserve better and what better way for the baby boomers to spend their golden years, than to be there for our kids in this time of serious uncertainty?
Mega corporations don't want educated Americans, trained and ready to work. They want to convince the government that the only educated workforce has to be imported and paid less.
Gold and silver
With its 20 million tonnes of gold ore, Saudi Arabia covered a good part of the 2,000T local market, and is exporting to India, Europe and USA.
Mahd Ad-Dhahab is the A class mine deposit and is located in the western province of Saudi Arabia, 280km from Jeddah. Ma’Aden holds the mining license and over 50km of tunnelling has been mined, with 2.7MT of ore extracted at an average grade of 21.89G/T gold.
Al-Sukhaybarat (open-pit) gold deposit is located 250km north of Mahd Ad-Dhahab, and is considered very valuable in gold and silver. The mine has been operated by the Saudi Company for Precious Metals, Ltd. (SCPM), a subsidiary of Ma’Aden.
The Bulghah mine, another resource deposit surrounding the Al-Sukhaybarat mine, started operation in 2002. Resources at the Bulghah site have been confirmed at 36.4MT, grading 1.05 G/T of gold. Actual production is at 82,000 ounces of gold.
Al-Hajar is also a Ma’Aden gold mine located in Asir, in the south-western province of Saudi Arabia. Recovery rates of 80 per cent for gold and 30 per cent for silver.
The Al-Amar gold deposit is west of Riyadh, off the Jeddah/Riyadh main road. Ma’Aden has held the mining lease since 1997. There are significant resources of gold, silver, zinc, and copper.
And when I was in Saudi Arabia back in the early 80s almost every other shop in Dhahran or Ad Dammam was a jewelry shop that displayed huge solid gold necklasses and bracelets. I walked into a Dhahran bank and there were 3 tables (very big tables maybe 8'x4') that had orderly piles of money stacked up over every inch of the tops of the tables and piled about 2 feet, or so, high. One table was US $100 bills and the other two tables were Saudi Riyals. Anyone could have just hopped over the short wall that was only about 3-4 feet tall. I had traveled by car as far south from Dhahran as Udhailiyah and stopped in at Al Hasa Oasis. I've been as far north as As Safaniyah and as far west as Al Jubail. As I surf the internet for photos and maps and Google Earth, I can see how far along Saudi Arabia has come since the early 80s. Those small Jebels I climbed and the intervening spaces are now all housing. I remember seeing the flags from the surveyors. I have been trying to find out where the "little mountains" are in Saudi Arabia. I think they are in the Hoffuf region and south through the Rub Al Khali toward Oman. There is a wadi plain in that area that they discovered contains a lot of gold in the sands.
I have heard of the fabled King Solomon Gold mines in the mountains along the western side of the Arabian Shield. When I was in Al Jubail I tried to drive up one of the mountain roads but came to signs telling me not to go any further...so I didn't.
Don't waste the occupations — make them truly historically effective!
There's more choice than just the streets. The transparency of complete corporate corruption in Obmanation has provided the young an opportunity to make far better voting choices than their parents "My Generation" has... and if their parents care for their children they can join them and begin to make better voting choices than they have.
It's time for tens of millions of people, who've been misled, abused and victimized by the corporate person candidates they've supported, to stop their active and/or passive support of all the neoliberal corporate party policies they angrily protest against, and to start voting for a people's democratic government responsibly responsive to the natural persons' needs that they've always been saying they want, but haven't been voting for.
It's time for protesting people to sensibly put their votes to work in a people's party actual opposition to everything they've been protesting against.
Jill Stein for President 2012:
Jill Stein's bio:
Stein, in 2010, standing for MA Gov. election:
2010 Stein campaign spot "Why You Should Vote for the Underdog":
Jill Stein, in 2010: "Let's have a real debate!":
President Obama has not only kept the war in Iraq and Afghanistan flourishing, but has started a war in Yemen, Pakistan, Libya, Syria (via Blackwater thugs), Somalia, and is now in Uganda. In addition President Obama continues giving the American people's money to Israel at an amount of 3 billion per year; giving the Israelis white phospherous to dump on virtually unarmed Palestinians, and do not forget all the bombs, as well as war planes and helicopters. The White House loves its superiority in the air for its victims have no way to protect themselves. President Obama sold out his White House chair before he ever took it, to the Lobbyists, Wall Street and Israel.
In addition to this President Obama and his administration express a complete lack of remorse as they go from one assassination without due process of justice to the next.
What happened to his words when he stated that when he took the White House he fully intended to be on an equal basis with the Iranian President for example?!
What about shutting down Guantanamo prison? Well, we know to shut down one would have really done no good, for the Pentagon would only have moved the prisoners to another local around the world to continue their torture on them without due process!
President Obama is ashamed to even face his black Americans who helped put him there! Instead of being proud that a black man has become the President of the United States, President Obama has waivered that right by showing the world that he, in fact, is a white Lobbyist. He has joined the 1% and seems not ashamed of it!
We know every U.S. President who intended at one time or another to do something good for the American people and the nations around the world, became threatened by the 1% and their people.
Look at the people President Obama surrounded himself with as soon as he took the chair. That gives to you all the answers right there.
BUSH HAS THE BLOOD OF MILLIONS ON HIS HANDS WHILST PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS CONTINUED BUSH'S LEGACY POUNCING ON OTHER NATIONS, THEREIN THE BLOOD ON HIS HANDS GROWS BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS!
Palindromedary, THANK YOU for the information. In particular:
" I have been trying to find out where the "little mountains" are in Saudi Arabia. I think they are in the Hoffuf region and south through the Rub Al Khali toward Oman. There is a wadi plain in that area that they discovered contains a lot of gold in the sands."
It was quite some time ago when the "little mountains" were discovered, but they were to be kept "off limit" and for some reason, Israel was trying to get to it through the west. Maybe you could fill me in a little more on this.
I know the 1% loves to hoard gold and take it out of circulation in order to manipulate the market.
"United States Marine Corps. Sgt. Shamar Thomas from Roosevelt, NY went toe to toe with the New York Police Department. An activist in the Occupy Wall Street movement, Thomas voiced his opinions of the NYPD police brutality that had and has been plaguing the #OWS movement."
THINK OF ALL THE MARINES AND U.S. MILITARY COMING HOME AND FIGHTING TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE! THIS IS WHERE THE MARINES SHOULD BE. THIS MARINE IS INDEED A HERO!
FIGHTING OTHER NATIONS WHO ARE NO THREAT TO YOU DOES NOT MAKE YOU A HERO. FIGHTING TO PROTECT YOUR OWN PEOPLE ON YOUR OWN HOME TERRITORY CERTAINLY DOES.
Great video of a true hero Marine who spoke up for the people! Thanks, Cynus1! There were 30 cops but they all looked a little skittish about the size of that guy. I'll bet he could have taken them all and done some real damage. But I think he did some real damage to their psyche..
By the way, there was an article about US troops amassing on the Pakistani border that was pretty interesting as well. It was down past the Ron Paul vids..
The biggest "gold story" of all times is the one about Yamashita's Gold. A very interesting story about how the Japanese had, for many years previous to... and during WWII, pillaged Manchuria, China, and southeast Asia and had tunnels dug in the Philippines to stash their booty. Over a hundred tunnels were dug and laden with the gold and jewelry. Sterling Seagraves wrote a great book about it and even made a couple of CDs with maps and documents and photos of it. MacArthur had Yamishita's driver tortured to find out where some of the tunnels were located and the US got so much gold from that that had they made it public and put the gold in the system it would have reduced the price of gold by a lot. They stashed it away and used it, partly to fund the cold war with Russia. Marcos got some of it also...but there is still undiscovered booby-trapped tunnels full of gold to this day...and many well known people have tried to search for it. Obviously, the US never returned the booty to their rightful owners...largely China. I have seen official ship's log of a US submarine that mentioned replacing their ballast with bars of gold before it was returned to the US from the Philippines at that time.
When I was in Saudi Arabia, in the early 80's, I read about the discovery of a wealth of minerals (can't remember just what) that was oozing up on the floor of the Red Sea as the rift plate action was such that it was churning out these things from below the sea bottom. And now we are hearing about a wealth of minerals from Afghanistan that could be exploited. So it is not all strictly just about oil.
I think the first thing all Americans should do it to take their money out of the largest banks in the US and put it into local banks or Credit Unions. You local small bank will work with you on a personal level for loans and keep the money in the community.
Wall street will feel it if all the 99%ers and their friends across the country close their bank accounts with Chase and Wells Fargo and Bof A etc.
Secondly..real reform won't happen as long as the Supreme Court is walking in step with Wall Street.
The tenure or the Supreme Court should be changed from lifetime to a 12 year term with a judge cycling out every 2 years. Th
The Chief Justice should be whomever is the senior judge at the time. This would de-politicize the process of appointing judges and will ensure fresh ideas and new blood.
It looks like the New World Order is becoming a thing of the past as mammoth populations of young people are taking back their world. The big slogan should be The New Wealth Order -- where everyone shares in the resources of this planet, including the planet itself.
Palindromedary, I was not aware of the wealth of 'minerals' from Afghanistan. Thank you for that information. It all fits into the whole picture, where Americans place their bases and why and for whom. More and more people are becoming awakened and the next move made by President Obama is not all as innocent as it may seem to be. Though it will be good to get American troops out of Iraq, for the troops as well as for the Iraqis, let us just see what is actually left in. It will be interesting to see whether all the U.S. troops will come home by the end of 2011 or whether some or all will be 'diverted' to another war scene by the Pentagon. We will pick up on this in the next forum. See you there.