NO! - The US will always have a two party system and there will never be room for a third party!
23% (7 votes)
YES! - A Democratic Socialist President, like Bernie Sanders, is long overdue in the US.
77% (23 votes)
Total votes: 30

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TimFromLA 2 years 30 weeks ago

Nope. We're too stupid to have a socialist

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SHFabian 2 years 30 weeks ago

"Stupid" might be an understatement. "Gullible" is obvious. A rather dramatic point of proof: For years, our politicians insisted that welfare - specifically, AFDC - was driving our deficits, threatening economic collapse. Never mind that at its highest (1970s), AFDC used a mere 6% of the fed. budget. Contrast this with the 50%+ of the fed.budget drained by wars of choice and handouts to the richest few. After years of massively exporting US jobs, we increased the size of the workforce by eliminating General Assistance and AFDC, leaving far more people struggling for far fewer jobs -- and that's our primary economic agenda! For 30+ years, we have watched rich politicians drain the money out of the budget, pouring it directly into the bank accounts of the richest few, leading the US to complete economic collapse, and what's our solution? Why, to end food stamps, of course. We're watching the greatest bank robbery in the history of the world. But no matter, up is down, black is white, and the Cat in the Hat will come along to get the house back into order before the grownups get back home.

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SHFabian 2 years 30 weeks ago

The Talking Point of today is "middle class workers." They are the alpha and the omega, every politician claims to represent them, media bends over backwards on their behalf, and they are entirely willing to crush the poor into the gravel. Historically, each time the richest few obtained too much power over government, the poor and middle classes united to push back, to the benefit of both. Not this time. Because the non-rich masses have been split in two, there is no chance of pushing back against a fascist/reactionary takeover of the US.

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David J. Cyr 2 years 30 weeks ago

The reason we've never had a Socialist POTUS, or a Socialist majority legislative branch, is because generations of deeply depraved corporate obedient Democrat voters have so reliably regularly flocked to the polls to efficiently exterminate the Left.

The "progressives" are the liberals who keep voting for the corporate party's Democrats so they can keep protesting against what they keep voting for.

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Susan Parker 2 years 30 weeks ago

I think it's the word "Socialist" that is the "problem". For too many years, Americans have been misled into thinking that Socialism=Communism. I think that has poisoned the word in people's minds, and caused them to balk at the mere mention of the "S" word, even when preceeded by the word "democratic" (small "D"). I lived in the UK in the late 70s, just as the "Nasty Conservatives" in the form of Margaret Thatcher, were rattling about getting ready to take over the government. Prior to her entry onto the scene, I noted that even the so-called "Conservative Party" members were often somewhat to the left of the US! The UK has its problems, to be sure, but their "democratic-socialist" ways appeared to work. And no one was scared and looking for "commies" under their beds. I knew a lot of people from different "classes", because for sure, there is still a bit of a class system in England. Okay, more than just a "bit", but that never stopped people, at least in Chelsea, where I lived, from "co-mingling" with each other! There wasn't any class warfare; nothing like what the GOP-style "Conservatism" of today is causing! But a Socialist becoming president? Yes, Bernie Sanders would make a wonderful president, but he has a lot of "baggage" to handle: The fact that he's from a small-New England state, but with a sometimes thick distinctly NYC accent, doesn't help. I also wonder whether we are ready to vote for a Jewish president. (I'm Jewish, but I certainly don't vote for people because of that. I just happen to think Sen. Sanders is terrific! I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. But "faux-Dem" Joe Leiberman? No way!) I just think that it's the word Socialist itself that is the problem. Just as I don't believe this country would ever (at least in this time of devolution) elect an avowed Athiest. (On the other hand, I'd bet you anything that a number of the early presidents were indeed Atheists, but again, back in the early days of our Republic, they really did have separation of church and state, so it wasn't something anyone talked about in public, whether a religious person or not.)

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TruthAddict 2 years 30 weeks ago

Haven't you heard? Obama is a socialist according to our right wing friends! Too bad it's not true.

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arky12 2 years 30 weeks ago

I had this sent to me by a friend asking to explain if this was true. I had no idea this misleading, distortion of this new law was making it's way around the internet via e-mails. We're in for a rought ride this year. Fox News is at it again. If this administration isn't defeated, I believe it'll be the end of this nation as we know it.Bill: HR 347 (look it up)Does anyone care our liberties are being taken away? Watch this clip from Fox News . Please send this to everyone in your address book. Obama signed this into law last ThursdayNew law makes it illegal to protest in Obama's presence This means that, wherever Obama is at, his secret service can have you arrested, fined, and imprisoned for more than a YEAR if you ask him something he doesn't like...or say something he doesn't like...or if you are carrying a sign he doesn't like. Sound like he's more like Hitler than Lincoln to you?WATCH AND BE AMAZED AT HIS LATEST MOVE TO STAGE A TAKE OVER OF AMERICA...Guess you've probably heard about this, but sending it on anyway. It's probably the scariest thing this guy has done yet.Are you aware of this new law, signed by Obama in early March 2012?May the Lord have mercy on us!!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7SGWH3kirzg&vq=medium

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2950-10K 2 years 30 weeks ago

Seeing how our under-regulated capitalist economy has been an un-MITT-igated disaster for the many, isn't it high time we started sharing the wealth that all of society collectively creates, with all of it's members, instead of reserving it for the few? Let's consider the needs of all and keep the economy under the control of the general public. Democratic Socialism will allow for this, and with a patriot like Senator Sanders in the White House true democracy would finally take root.

Wishing Louise a speedy recovery from surgery!

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telliottmbamsc 2 years 30 weeks ago

This whole Democrat/Republican thing gives me a headache don't ya know.

Jumping up off the face of the earth isn’t enough to establish you as a resident of the planet of Mars, anymore than nationalizing the Energy Industry or providing Universal HealthCare is going to make us a Socialist Country.

Yea, technically, leaving the face of the earth is required to become a resident of Mars, but is it rational to think that is going to be the consequence of your jumping up off the face of the Earth?! The act of jumping up and down temporarily puts you in the right direction to Mars but given where you are at jumping up is a inconsequential drop in the bucket to all you would have to do given the magnitude between where you are currently at and where others might accuse you of being from - Mars.

So go ahead and jump-up. Nationalize the Energy industry and offer universal health care like most every other developed nation. It is not going to make America a Socialist country anymore than you jumping up is going to establish you as a resident of the planet Mars. I mean, what’s the worst that could happen?! Concentration of wealth skooches one or two percentage points in the direction of a more balanced distribution?! Hoy Comrade! The death and destruction to our sovereignty it will bring!! Marriages will fall apart all over the country!

I don’t think so. You'd have to b.s. the People about the magnitude of proposed jump and/or the distances involved.

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washnwmn 2 years 30 weeks ago

Interesting..the French had to literally chop the heads of just about everyone they thought was a problem back when the fledgling U.S. was fighting the Brits for independance. Hope we don't get to that point, but the corporate governement we're in right now is planting the seeds of revolution and/or their own downfall. One way or another, when everyone's totally fed up, or when too big to fail becomes too big to bail...change is going to happen. The numbers, and I'm no math wiz, just don't add up. You reduce the tax base with lower wages and no jobs and keep letting the ritzies get a pass, and duh (!) the goverment will be even more broke. When consumers have no money to spend on stuff..corporations will fall as well. Their attempt to push for austerity world wide so they can own everything will come back to bite them eventually.

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nelle 2 years 30 weeks ago

I had to read your post twice to get that you were actually warning us of the latest fox news alarmist misrepresentation. This network is truly evil in it's intent to divide our country. However, your post did get me to check out HR 347 which was approved by the House, 399-3 updating an existing law originally enacted in 1971 that restricts access around the president, Vice-president or any others under the protection of the secret service. Well, duh!! Thanks Arky12, forewarned is forearmed with the real facts.

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