Do you agree with the administration's justification for drone strikes?

YES! It's better to use drones than put soldier’s lives at risk.
18%
NO! Using drones will lead to blowback attacks in the U.S.
82%

12 comments

Aliceinwonderland
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Those defending the use of

Those defending the use of drones conveniently overlook the fact that (1) they kill scores of innocents, (2) they execute people without due process.  There is no justification for either.  Drone operators are terrorists and cowards.

"Dianhow" argues: "Drone attacks have killed mamy AL Quada who 's only mission is to KILL AS MANY AMERICANS AS THEY CAN."  "Mrohrer" says "I would prefer the drone attack to sending our men and women overseas to take care of a terrorist." Russell Vaughan says "The people who are being taken out are planning to kill Americans."

I have no sympathy for these arguments because our unwarranted, unprovoked aggression against other countries only strengthens organizations like Al Queda (sp?) and justifies their existence.  If we'd only get the hell out of these countries and stop occupying them, stealing from them, killing their people and so on, they wouldn't be on a mission to kill us would they?  (HELLO.) And killing people because you think they might do something to us is friggin' insane.  How do you know what someone is planning to do unless they carry out those plans?!  And since when does membership in an organization justify the death penalty?!!  Can't you people, for once, imagine how you would react if this situation were reversed; if our country were invaded by Afghanis or Iraqis who kicked in the doors of our houses and murdered our families, raped our women, tortured us, urinated on our dead bodies, and attacked us with drones?  Has it ever occurred to you that we might be the terrorists?     

Were it not for these abuses and unprovoked acts of aggression, on our nickel and in our names, there never would have been a 9-11.  We can thank our Military Industrial Complex for creating all these enemies with a justified hatred towards us, making us targets of that hatred.  Long as our leader perpetuate a foreign policy based on the premise that our lives are more valuable than other people's, we can expect more of the same, and with only our leaders to blame.    - Aliceinwonderland

David J. Cyr
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In response to the humanitys

In response to the humanitys team assertion "If we had women in power they would hammer out justice."

Remember that back in 1996, when she was confronted in a TV interview, with human rights organization estimates that UN (more accurately, U.S. Clinton Regime) sanctions would surely cause the deaths of half a million Iraqi children, Clinton's Secretary of State, his Field Marshall Madeline Albright, calmly confirmed her, and the Clinton Regime's position: "the price is worth it" with the "price" being half a million Iraqi kids murdered, and the "it" being the forced retirement of just one (1) insubordinate U.S. sandthug. An intentional sacrifice of 500,000 innocent children by "progressive" Democrats to attempt to downsize 1 employee the "progressive" Democrats wished to discard... simply because their sand thug disloyally wished to sell oil for currencies other than the U.S. Dollar.

The last three Secretaries of State were women... all of them sharing the same strategic goals as the men who preceded them, and the man now following them.

Secretary of State:

euphemistic title given to America's Secretary of Aggression

The APT: American Political Terms:

http://chenangogreens.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id...

humanitys team
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Violence creates more

Violence creates more violence in a never ending downward spiral ,highly evolved life forms know  this does not work to create a peaceful world so choose not to play the  hammer game. 

If we had women in power they would hammer out justice .

Russell Vaughan
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Normally I am as Left as Left

Normally I am as Left as Left can be. As a Navy Vietnam Veteran,  I just don't understand this issue.   The people who are being taken out are planning to kill Americans.  If they are Americans, it should be known that they are entitled to surrender and receive a fair trial. If there is collateral damage, it is just  cost of war.  I feel zero empathy for anyone who is killed as a reault of these strikes. From my perspective, they are just future terrorists in waiting.. 

DBarber
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  Vengeance after the fact is

 

Vengeance after the fact is ineffective enough as a way of promoting peace and security.  But this idea of killing people who MIGHT do something harmful?  That is no recipe for promoting freedom, peace or solving the deeper issues we are facing as a nation.  It's a good way to line the pockets of those (and there are many...) who profit greatly from war-making, but I'm not sure that's a valid top priority.  Saving soldiers' lives?  No, killing is usually returned, matter of time.  Do you want endless war?  Operations like these would satisfy that desire.

vinnyg45
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  Terrorist – Terrorist, I’m

 

Terrorist – Terrorist, I’m sick and tired of hearing that word. One man's terrorist is another’s hero. George Washington was a terrorist - Every Prime minister of the early state of Israel was a terrorist, according to the British; today the are model citizens. As for drones there seems to be more collateral victims than actual real targets that end up feeling the sting of the drones. For every innocent and [in our sight only] guilty individual that dies as a result of a drone strike, there will spring ten more martyrs with justifiable hate in their hearts for - ‘The Good Old USA’. Also, these killings are a breach of our own values of justice. There is no court review, no trial, some where some bureaucrat is judge and executioner with no responsibility for their actions, except that some day the chickens will be coming home to roust. Some day a lot of innocent American citizens will feel the sting from some martyr whose brother, father or son died from a USA drone.

washnwmn
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Seeing drones flying over a

Seeing drones flying over a target and attacking reminds me of films I've seen of the WWII blitz over London w/ German rockets.  Where are we headed with the current mindset of a police state, lack of privacy in a dozen different forms from drones to cameras on the street corner to internet data collection?  What good is new WIFI technology if it's used to keep tabs on everyone?   We have a double standard of "droning" innocents in the name of security, while feeling horrified by mass shootings in schools.  We have far too many double standards recently.  I think we need to get our priorities straight somewhere. 

HalFonts
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Any high-school kid using R/C

Any high-school kid using R/C model-airplane technology could build a drone -- this is a no-brainer, has been for decades. And yes every attack on foreign soil just increases hostilities, enemies and the likelyhood of more ongoing war (-profits).

mrohrer
i  would prefer the drone

i  would prefer the drone attack to sending our men and women overseas to take care of a terrorist.

im not for killing people, but if it is someone who will try and attack the American people, i prefer we keep our soldiers out of harms way.

 

 

dianhow
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How would we feel  if US  had

How would we feel  if US  had another 9/ 11  attack  ?   Perhaps  in a school , mall or Disneyland  /  Super Bowl  ?  Thats a real  possibly.

dianhow
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War  is  very  ugly and 

War  is  very  ugly and  innocents  die  But  we would ALL  be  outraged  IF  US has another 9 /11 attack and  we would  be first to blame the Obama administartion !    Drone attacks have killed mamy AL Quada  who 's only  mission is to  KILL AS MANY AMERICANS   AS THEY CAN   

rruppena
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Torture and drones are a sure

Torture and drones are a sure way to gain enemies. How would you like it if a drone burst into your home?

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