Daily Topics - Friday September 10th, 2010

Quote of the Day: We may be tossed upon an ocean where we can see no land -- nor, perhaps, the sun or stars. But there is a chart and a compass for us to study, to consult, and to obey. That chart is the Constitution. - Daniel Webster
"Anything Goes on Townhall Friday!"
Hour One: "Brunch With Bernie" - Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) spends the hour with Thom discussing the issues and answering listener questions www.sanders.senate.gov
Hour Two: "Pastor Terry Jones and the First Amendment" - Author/attorney Richard Greene will be here with an alternate viewpoint www.wordsthatshooktheworld.com; Plus, the latest on Terry Jones and Imam Rauf's "meeting" - Faiz Shakir from Think Progress will be here www.thinkprogress.org
Hour Three: It's Fighting Bob Fest time in Madison, WI - Fellow Progressives Jim Hightower, Tim Carpenter and John Nichols will be here www.fightingbobfest.org
Comments


Obama's DNA matches perfectly with Bush II DNA.
At what point does invasion of privacy enter the realm of molestation and harassment?
I feel that where ever that point is, we as a country have long passed it.
N

Jesus on the Family
Information on this document comes from Dr. Teresa Whitehurst’s website, jesusonthefamily.com.
In one of the articles Glen Stassen was mentioned. He is a Lutheran minister who gave a talk to people. He said that at one time Southern Baptist students in a seminary were instructed in compassionate religion. Today, students are the new KGB of authoritarian religion. They are like the secret police of the 21st century.
It is important for people to speak the truth. Apparently the new ministers pick and choose parts of the Bible that suits their agenda. God is stressed because God is viewed as an authoritarian figure. He is someone who punishes and He is vengeful. Jesus is looked upon as someone who is compassionate and merciful. The new religion wants the people to view God not as compassionate but as a punishing God. They want an authoritative God because their religion is authoritarian. These ministers hold authority and you will believe what they say or you will be an outcast and punished by God. You are to believe in a punishing God and not a compassionate God.
The Crucifixion of Jesus is an example of a liberal Jesus and a progressive role model.
The Crucifixion of Jesus
The crucifixion of Jesus was an act of terrorism and it was meant to deter would-be resisters to the Roman authority of Palestine or those who would oppose the authority of the Roman-controlled Temple Chief Priest and the religious ruling class. The Romans meant for public crucifixion to terrorize the civilian population. All people witnessing a crucifixion or walking by a corpse on the cross understood that if they stepped out of line, they too could be executed.
What did Jesus of Nazareth do in His beautiful liberal language? He called out, “FATHER FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO.”
Yes, Jesus is the role model of liberals because He has bestowed upon liberals three characteristics that exemplify a liberal person and his value system and his way of life. These three characteristics are LOVE, MERCY, and FORGIVENESS.
Please be aware that all my comments are coming to you from my hideaway bunker deep inside enemy territory.
We have Freedom of Speech, as long as we don't say anything disturbing? We are innocent until proven guilty, unless we're actually suspected of committing a crime. We are all created equal, but Corporations have human rights, without human penalties. We have the right to assemble peaceably in designated "Free Speech Zones".
GOD DAMN IT! DAMN IT! DAMN IT!!! IT HAS TO BE TESTED AND CHALLENGED, WE HAVE TO ALLOW THE UGLY IF WE WANT THE BEAUTIFUL. ITS QUITE SIMPLE, FREEDOM IS ALL OR NOTHING. YOU CAN'T CHIP AT IT, AND CALL IT THE SAME THING.
It is better for a thousand guilty men to walk free, than to allow one innocent man to be locked up. A fair society, protects the weakest of its citizens, its what our forefathers wanted their government to be.
Stop knocking holes in the bottom of a leaky boat to let the water out, it doesn't work that way!
N
On Clinton vs W wrt bin Laden
Hi. I tried to post this yesterday but am a rookie.
The point: Clinton was fairly osessed with al Quaeda, actively tried to counter them- to the point of having a program to track and kill Osama. Bush- not so much; had other priorities. Barton Gellman of WaPost did series of articles early 2002- damning stuff that got no play and still doesn't. The pivot for this was the transition Berger trying to handoff to Rice- told no, thenkyew. I think that this real and perceived vulnerability for W led to the discrediting and neutralizing of Berger wrt National Archives theft. yet another story for another day.
Best summary is Gellman's interview with Fresh Air Share.
Journalist Barton Gellman. Listen. Fresh Air from WHYY. ... 11. Gellman wrote a two-part series about it that ran in the Post Dec. 19 and 20, 2001. ... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1136855
A Strategy's Cautious Evolution: Before Sept. 11, the Bush Anti-Terror Effort Was Mostly Ambition (Post, January 20, 2002)
Rising Threat, Uneven Response: Struggles Inside the Government Defined Campaign (Post, December 20, 2001)
The Covert Hunt for bin Laden: Broad Effort Launched After '98 Attacks (Post, December 19, 2001)
U.S. Was Foiled Multiple Times in Efforts To Capture Bin Laden or Have Him Killed: Sudan's Offer to Arrest Militant Fell Through After Saudis Said No (Post, October 3, 2001)
and of course:
U.S. Concludes Bin Laden Escaped at Tora Bora Fight: Failure to Send Troops in Pursuit Termed Major Error (Post, April 17, 2002)
hope that this ostts and is helpful
Cleve
Regarding Fighting Bob Fest - It's high time for a history lesson on the progressive era. I think Ken Burns should do a series on this history or someone should make a movie on the life of Sen. Bob LaFollette (Sean Penn would be good in the title role). Do you have connections to get a project like this off the ground, Thom? Think about it this weekend. Lots of parallels between the times that gave birth to the Progressive Movement and our time. John Dos Passos's portrait of Fighting Bob in "The 42nd Parallel" is a good place to start to get a feeling for what "Fighting Bob" was all about.
The Party of the Rich -
Thom,
I learn so much from your show and value it greatly, but today in your segment with Jim Hightower you said something I can not believe. Yes, the railroad barons bought the GOP during the Grant and Hayes Administrations, but they have not simply been the party of the rich since then. Theodore Roosevelt is arguably the greatest president in our history and brought progressive change in great doses, and would have done so in a third term four years later had the stalwarts not excommunicated him. President Eisenhower and Robert LaFollette are other great examples, as is Nixon, who despite all of his faults, was probably lest of an economic royalist than Barack Obama. Yes, these are not enough to remove validity from the statement generally, but not all Republicans, at least before the 1994 "revolution," were simply shills for the plutocracy.
Something worthwhile
I listen to a lot of old time radio on Sirius, since the writing on television is so poor. I recently heard a show commemorating Labor Day titled "Samuel Gompers - Countdown for a Champ." This was part of the 13-program American Gallery series of biolgraphies. Very well done with a great cast and excellent production values It was made, I believe, in the 1960's and carried on Armed forces Radio.
It's probably available on a lot of CD collections offered for sale by many parties.



America's empire and endless wars!
http://www.alternet.org/world/148094/america%27s_empire_and_endless_wars_are_destroying_the_world%2C_and_ruining_our_great_country/?page=entire