Daily Topics - Tuesday October 25th, 2011
By shawnt56
#Oct29 "Enough is Enough" Rally @ The US Capitol 12PM-6AM - Thom Hartmann is Kicking off the Rally at Noon
Free Speech TV invites citizen journalists from around the world to send us videos of actions in your community that support the 99% Movement. They'll be posted @ www.freespeech.org and some will air on DirecTV-348 & DishTV-9415 which reach into 35 million households across the USA. Check www.freespeech.org for more details on how to submit.
Hour One: Occupy Oakland raided by riot police last night - Occupy Oakland
Hour Two: FBI's next gen ID...will YOU be in the database? Jennifer Lynch, Electronic Frontier Foundation
Hour Three: America's police state...Michigan drivers face drug checkpoints - Professor David Moran, University of Michigan Law School
Comments
#2
Possible fix for tents being restricted and removed:
Has anyone considered turning tents into signs or vise versa?
If the police are required to not confiscate signs, then couldn't a tent with a slogan be argued to be a sign? So you sleep under it -so what?
#3
Yes, great idea: paint signs on the tents. And on everything else. This whole thing reminds me of Ghandi's march to the sea for salt.
#4
Somehow I think that if it was you getting abused you would say, "The police have no right to do this to me, I don't care who told them to, and if the law says they can shoot a tear gas cannister into my face and fracture my skull, the law is wrong." But it's not you with a fractured skull, not you getting tear gassed, and not you getting beaten and arrested; you seem quite willing to excuse the police doing those things to other people.
And regarding your outrage over the comparison of our demonstration-busting police to the Nazi German police and military, well, if the hobnail boot fits... The german police and military said, "We were told to kill people, so we killed them. We were just obeying orders, so it's ok." And the courts at the Hague hanged them for doing it, the logic being this: when a superior tells you to do something wrong, you have the right AND the obligation to refuse to do that wrong thing. But you are saying that as long as the police are not murdering people they can do whatever they are told to do, whether it's right or wrong. And again, if they were doing it to you, you would NOT be saying it's ok, I approve.
So, you say that Thom's program contents are "turning you away," even though you would like to listen to his program, if he would just be more in favor of the police and less in favor of American citizens. In other words, if Thom would just turn into Glen Beck, you would feel more comfortable listening to Thom's program. Well, let's run that one past Thom and see if he would be willing to say things like, "I don't need any facts, I don't need to understand anything about history. I just wrote something on a blackboard, and that proves I'm right." The thing is, I don't think Thom will do that. But let's ask him, just to be sure.
Thom's Blog Is On the Move
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"In Cracking the Code, Thom Hartmann, America’s most popular, informed, and articulate progressive talk show host and political analyst, tells us what makes humans vulnerable to unscrupulous propagandists and what we can do about it. It is essential reading for all Americans who are fed up with right-wing extremists manipulating our minds and politics to promote agendas contrary to our core values and interests."
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"No one communicates more thoughtfully or effectively on the radio airwaves than Thom Hartmann. He gets inside the arguments and helps people to think them through—to understand how to respond when they’re talking about public issues with coworkers, neighbors, and friends. This book explores some of the key perspectives behind his approach, teaching us not just how to find the facts, but to talk about what they mean in a way that people will hear."
I have tried to listen to this program daily but the constant attack on police officers is definitely turning me away. I am not the only one. I understood the protesters in Oakland were advised on THURSDAY that they could not remain @ their location AND that those remaining would ultimately be arrested. Police Officers are HIRED, PAID & REQUIRED to uphold the law. The protesters chose to remain even after being told again before arrests began. TOO bad you always fail to mention the attacks on the police, including thrown bottles, etc. How do you expect police to 'dress' when confronting a hundred + protesters? Police are NOT PAID to be physically injured & prudence would call for 'riot gear' in any instance where 100 + people are defying a lawful order to disperse. And your NAZI GERMANY immitation was disgusting & uncalled for.