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JohnRy 12 years 45 weeks ago
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Thom, et al:

First time on your blog, and responding to on-air request by Thom on behalf of a caller - not sure how this works.

However, here are links for the caller at ~1:40 PM (PDT) today, 10/17/13, who asked for sources the describe the Obama Administration's deficits by FY:

(1) From ~11/21/12 - so not up to date - this is my favorite demonstration of Obama's shrinking deficits. Rachel Maddow has a typically superb presentation with two bar charts in "Your helpful Thanksgiving charts about the deficit" at

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/21/15343715-your-helpful-thank...

and she says, in part: "...here are the charts that show the U.S. deficit is not growing but shrinking -- in fact, it's shrinking faster than at any time since the end of War II..." You'll see two bar charts. If you check the numbers in the first chart, you'll see that the deficit has gone down sequentially (monotone function) every year for the past three years.

-- I urge the caller to view this, and then search for a similar one that runs up through FY 2013. In general, of course, the caller should do a search, starting with the least specific search term, like "obama deficit", and narrow to a more specific search, if necessary. Also, several of the following sources are from ~12/12 - they were used in research for an article that I wrote at that time. At worst, they'll spur the caller to find something related, but newer. So, here are a few other sources that I've used:

(2) "The Deficit Is Plunging! And Nobody Cares!", by Derek Thompson, The Atlantic, 9/17/13, at

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/deficit-plunging-nobody-cares-142800771.html

(3) "Deep Impact: The Federal Deficit" from FactCheck.org at

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-deficit-dodge/

(4) "Who Really Caused The Deficit? (CHART)" at

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/obama-romney-deficit-debt-cha....

which says, in part, "Under Obama’s watch the national debt has risen from roughly $10 trillion to $15 trillion, a record high. But to what extent are his decisions while in office to blame? The answer: very little. The vast bulk of the debt is the result of policies enacted during the Bush administration coupled with automatic increases in federal spending and decreases in tax revenue triggered by the economic downturn." (5) "Ending the Deficit Blame Game" at http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-22/ending-the-deficit-blame-game.html. Bloomberg's conclusion: "...It's time for lawmakers to stop fighting about what caused the deficit and actually take steps to boost the economy in the short-run while preventing it from collapsing in the long-term." "...the only chance America has to begin returning to constitutionally limited government and start righting our national economy..." is for our Congress to can the nonproductive rhetoric, and start earning their pay by fixing the deficit mess using the best economic measures that they can agree on. (6) "Could Obama's Deficit-Reduction Plan Get Any More Centrist?", by Matthew O'Brien, The Atlantic, 3/13/13, at http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/03/could-obamas-deficit-reduction-plan-get-any-more-centrist/273994/ From a big fan who's listening to KBCY in Seattle: Best regards,John V. Ryan, PEjohnrysf@yahoo.com

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