Stay In - It's not over until the convention
61%
He should drop out right away
1%
Bernie should run on a third party ticket
18%
He should help unite the party behind Hillary
20%

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Dweinstein003 10 years 7 weeks ago

There should be another choice, go to the convention and leave to run a third party ticket if he can't get the VP nomination coupled with his policy proposals.

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johnj1920 10 years 7 weeks ago

We relay what we have learned from Thom, Amy Goodman, and other progressives, alive and those who have come before, weekly on Boston Common. I have some of the names of those on rules committee and platform people but more info needed. If Puerto Ricans really knew about how devastating managers can be, as in Flint, and the Detroit public schools, they may not have gone for her. Thanks for all the info over the years.

Sincerely, Jan Rowe

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stopww3 10 years 7 weeks ago

If at some point Bernie does choose to endorse Hillary, Thom should have him on his radio show to take unfiltered, uncensored calls from the listeners to dialogue with those of us who are not ready to give Clinton our votes. I do trust both Thom and Bernie to continue to put pressure on a President Clinton on economic issues and that, maybe, we can force her to listen to us on that somewhat. But, where Thom and Bernie have a lot of convincing left to do, if they want me to ever vote for HRC, is that they will help us fight to strip her of her power to launch Wars for Regime Change, especially proxy wars with Russia. As of right now I don't see anybody with any kind of voice willing to take on a President Hillary Clinton on these issues. If Bernie ever does ask us to vote for her, and I'm not saying that he should or will, but if he does, then I would like to get a chance to ask him about this.

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Mr.Wayne 10 years 7 weeks ago

If we examine Bernies' words carefully, he has been careful not to say that he approves of her - but that he will do anyhing he can to stop Trump. Bernie has repeatedly stated that it will be encumbent upon HRC to put forth her reasons to the voters, as to why she should get our vote.

Like most here - I would listen to whatever reasons Bernie himself stated as to why any of us should vote for her. It would be one tough of a hard sell.... but I'd still hear him out.

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progressive4ever 10 years 7 weeks ago

I'm writing Bernie in regardless of what lies clintoris and party feed us, it's my right and my voice. It's messy but sometimes the only way to stop a runaway train is to derail it.

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brdj 10 years 7 weeks ago

Bernie should stay in in order to use his great influence to help shape a truely Progressive platform platform that Hillary will be afixed to in a truely irrevicable way. She must be influenced to pick a truely Progressive V.P. such as Tulsi Gabbard or Zephyr Teachout.

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simplee 10 years 7 weeks ago

Yes. I agree. The very best choice is not even an option on this list.... wait until the convention, and if he can't turn the Superdelegates to get them to make him the Dem candidate, or at a minimum, get his policy proposals and the VP nomination, then run as a third party... maybe as a Green candidate with Jill Stein as VP.

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simplee 10 years 7 weeks ago

I believe that Bernie is far more popular in the general American public than the extremely rigged Democratic primaries suggest. What the rigged primaries and bought-off media has obscured, is that Bernie is far more popular than either Hillary or Trump, and could win over either or both of them. So I definitely believe Bernie should not hesitate for a second if the Dem Party does not embrace him and his platform, to run as either an Independent or on the Green Party with Jill Stein as his VP running mate.

Scotty11 10 years 7 weeks ago

If Bernis is chosen as the VP to run with Clinton...and an agreement made to work on a majority of his proposals while in office...I would then reconsider...and likely vote for Clinton.

I'd like to see some poll numbers on how a 3 way race would play out. Particularly going Green Party.

Leave Warren in the Senate for now...we need her where she is...stirring up a hornets nest.

More like Bernie, Warren, Merkley...and my hope would be restored in our governing bodies.

Regards, Scotty

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charlesknowlton 10 years 7 weeks ago

Bernie's Primary momentum gives him a huge platform to publicly advocate important progressive causes. In my opinion, the most important cause is our democracy itself.

The new Voter ID laws created huge problems for a large portion of the electorate as Republican statehouses have been systematically taking away people's right to vote. While that frustration is still fresh in voters minds, this would be a great time to promote a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to vote and fix some of the ills of our voting process.

There's a proposed amendment by Congressmen Pocan and Ellison that starts off well but I'd argue should be expanded to cover more of the ills of our current system.

SECTION 1: Every citizen of the United States, who is of legal voting age, shall have the fundamental right to vote in any public election held in the jurisdiction in which the citizen resides.

SECTION 2: Congress shall have the power to enforce and implement this article by appropriate legislation.

I would insert several new sections between Section 1 and Section 2. These include elimination of the electoral college, reducing gerrymandering, adding instant-runoff voting, and making our voting system verifiable. Of course, the language could be improved.

SECTION 2: Elections for President are won by popular vote;

SECTION 3: Congressional districts in each state shall be drawn compactly and without bias.

SECTION 4: Voters shall rank Presidential candidates in order of preference. If no candidate receives more than 50% of the vote, an instant runoff vote count is performed.

SECTION 5: Voting shall be performed using independently verifiable voting apparatus.

What do y'all think?

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bpentony 10 years 7 weeks ago

Honestly, I don't think the "party platform" does nothing nor does it mean anything. It can list everything wonderful that people want to hear, but it really means squat because it is non-binding to any nominee. HRC can yes Bernie and his supporters to death. If she gets elected, it's a whole new ballgame...just look at Barack Obama and the Dems who actually controlled both houses in 2009 / 2010. They removed the public option, they disallowed Medicare to negotiate pharma prices for beneficiaries, they didn't put the Wall Street crooks in jail, they supported and approved the Panama Trade Deal while telling the public they were going to have the wealthy pay their fair share, and now Obama is pushing the very worst trade deal of all..the TPP. Where is the fight for the economic interests of working people? Party platform be damned. Bernie Sanders is a new deal democrat that we desperately need while Hillary is a subscriber to the third way agenda...exactly what we DONT need or want.

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Kenoncoast 10 years 7 weeks ago

If Bernie Sanders does not get the democratic nomination at the convention, then he should run as an independent. I think he would win. There are lots of discruntial republicans and democrats that I think would vote for Bernie Sanders as an independent. MAKE THIS A POLL QUESTION. That question should be IF BERNIE DOES NOT BECOME THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE AT THE CONVENTION, THEN SHOULD HE RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT?

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Kenoncoast 10 years 7 weeks ago

What if Bernie runs as an independent, would you vote for him?

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scribe1128 10 years 7 weeks ago

So you are giving your vote to tRump.

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SilentSpace 10 years 7 weeks ago

The youth need to get their act together. Each and every one of them, without exception, needs to stop what they are doing and put their life on hold and become well-informed individuals, free of misinformation and disinformation, and get actively involved in the political process to usher in a Whole New Way of Living rooted in Love and Wisdom.

Dear superdelegates: There are at least 50 million registered young people and independents, many of whom were not able to vote or whose vote was not counted in the primary, who will not vote for Hillary in the general election. If Trump wins the Presidency, there will be no one to blame except yourselves for not supporting Bernie Sanders.

March on the Democratic National Convention in Philly.
Monday, July 25 at 11 AM | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

We need at least 1 million individuals (1% of the youth electorate) to show up.

We need to send a clear message to the democratic party leaders: We want Bernie and we won't waste our vote on Hillary. Moreover, the national polls show Trump and Hillary neck and neck, while Bernie beats Trump by a wide margin.

#seeyouinphilly

March on the Democratic Convention.
https://www.facebook.com/events/248664418802949
https://www.facebook.com/groups/MarchOnTheDNC

DC to DNC - March for Democracy July 15th - July 24th.
http://www.dctodnc.com/

Places to stay for Bernie supporters.
http://www.berniebnb.com/

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SilentSpace 10 years 7 weeks ago

Generally speaking, an independent presidential candidate must petition for placement on the general election ballot in all 50 states, as well as Washington, D.C. A handful of states may allow an independent candidate to pay a filing fee in lieu of submitting a petition.

The methods for calculating how many signatures are required vary considerably from state to state, as do the actual signature requirements. For instance, some states establish a flat signature requirement. Other states calculate signature requirements as percentages of voter registration or votes cast for a given office.

In order to access the ballot nationwide, it is estimated that an independent presidential candidate in 2016 would need to collect more than 880,000 signatures. California is expected to require independent candidates to collect 178,039 signatures, more than any other state. Tennessee is expected to require 275 signatures, fewer than any other state.

An individual can run as a write-in candidate. In 35 states, a write-in candidate must file some paperwork in advance of the election. In seven states, write-in voting for presidential candidates is not permitted. The remaining states do not require write-in candidates to file paperwork in advance of the election.

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SilentSpace 10 years 7 weeks ago

Please explain how Bernie has a good chance of winning running as a 3rd party candidate.

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ljbrooks 10 years 7 weeks ago

Bernie should start a 3rd party to represent all of us who NO ONE now to represent us!

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MCage 10 years 7 weeks ago

Bernie should run third party if Hillary and the DNC are not thoroughly disgraced by the time of the convention. I still hope he will be the nominee if the votes in California can be counted and the massive election fraud exposed. We must not allow our votes to be stolen.

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MCage 10 years 7 weeks ago

Well said. It is evident to me that Bernie is not only immensely popular but the only candidate trusted. If he does not get the nomination at the convention he should run on a new progressive Green party ticket with Jill Stein as his VP.

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2950-10K 10 years 7 weeks ago

Bernie needs to focus on and get the word out about Ryan's savage budget plans, and remind anyone voting for the Teapublic party, they're voting themselves into ever increasing economic hardship. Make it known that Trump and Ryan both plan on cutting and then privatizing Social Security. That alone will be enough to swing many voters. Trump is very excited about turning over the Social Security trust fund to his Wall Street bankster cocktail pals. Ryan is also wetting himself over the prospect.

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psysped 10 years 6 weeks ago

We should run third-party announcing after the DNC convention. The DNC and corporate media played every dirty trick they could think of on us. We will pull votes from tRump and Hillary making it a true three-way race.

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Queenbeethatsme 10 years 6 weeks ago

still trying to figure out how this all connects. If as Thom says the End is near due to abrupt climate change, and we are all getting tumors due to cell phone radiation..why does who we put in matter?

I AM also trying to figure out what Hilary had done or not done that is so bad the Democratic party is trying to fracture like the Republican party (,who miraculously are managing to come together under Trump,)

This is like a really, really, really bad movie with many so myopic that they don't realize they have burned down their own house...until they are homeless .

I do know the mechanisations of the Democratic election process are corrupt, but they were that way long before Hilary..what was done to Bernie was done to Hilary and she had to suck it up and leave the stage or risk destroying her party as encouraged by the self immolators in both parties.

"Tear the house down" sounds really great and even is exciting when you say it and while you do it..but in the aftermath it is always regretted and always much is lost..and the "lessons" the rabble rousers hoped to convey actually end up only being painful lessons to themselves.

The net result may not be the disenchanted getting their way or a NWO, it just might mean you guys cut off your own noses to spite your own faces and now you are just really ugly and have trouble breathing.

The problem with fracturing and trying to teach your brothers a lesson, is that they owe you one and so you get internecine warfare..meanwhile the other side unites and rules you with an iron fist. take a lesson from the plight of black people.

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PJ Parker 10 years 6 weeks ago

"I do know the mechanisations of the Democratic election process are corrupt, but they were that way long before Hilary..what was done to Bernie was done to Hilary and she had to suck it up and leave the stage or risk destroying her party as encouraged by the self immolators in both parties."

EXACTLY!

The GOP destroyed Jimmy Carter. They impeached Bill Clinton. They tried to destroy Hillary Clinton as FLOTUS, they threw everything they had at Obama. HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON HAD OBAMA'S BACK.

I love Bernie Sanders, but the GOP would destroy him - he has no army of DC insiders behind him, and in the real world and present situation in our government, that's a losing situation. The GOP would eviscerate POTUS Sanders. That's why I'm with her.

Bernie always said he wanted to draw focus to the real issues. He's done that, but now he's becoming a distraction. We need him to fight for us and that meand fight for Hillary, not against her.

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Dot 10 years 6 weeks ago

Thousands of people in San Diego & Los Angeles are in the process of over seeing the recount for Bernie Sanders. Other counties also need help, sign up at:
https://ballotsforbernie.org/

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Marsh In Florida 10 years 5 weeks ago

I agree. I am very much afraid of a Clinton presidency, probably just as much as I am a Trump presidency. If HC does get the nomination from the DNC, we will have to wait another 4 years for an opportunity for another Sanders-type candidate to run. This opinion is shared by Thomas Frank of the book "Listen, Liberal."

CA Rep. Barbara Lee has proven that the establishment democrats DO NOT want to make the Sanders-esque changes to the Dem. Party. She fought very hard to keep the president of the nurses union from having a voice at the DNC platform convention. She's not the only one I'm having a hard time trusting. Far from it.

We are in desparate need of a revolution, including a revolt against the down-party candidates who have given voice to our needs but failed to give action. They have literally voted against our best interests. They have taken to behaving no differently than the republicans by failing to give us any kind of gun protection laws. Four were presented, two by the dems. and two by the repubs. I know (I think we all know) that the republicans would never join the proposals made by the democrats. But the democrats surely could have joined the republicans in their proposals. At least we would have had something as a basis for a start towards gun controls. Instead we got nothing.

This can only change if Sanders stays in the race, no matter how.

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