Yea, I know, I'm talking like it already happened but we're dealing with the dregs of American society,
So we got this, not that it matters, because there really is no difference between the two parties anyway. This from DailyKos:
This from Campaign for America's Future - IF ANY!:
I was very dismayed to hear Thom's advocacy for the pardon of the Bush administration for torture. This scheme seems like just another of the all-too clever devices by which Democrats have for decades ceded vast tracts of ideological territory to the right.
What makes you think that history will record such a pardon as anything but a pardon? It will be used by torturers and war criminals to point out to Democrats that their own leadership is just fine with these horrors.
The notion that Bush adminstration Iraq and Afganistan war criminals should be preemptively pardoned is quite disappointing coming from Thom Hartmann, of all people. Imagine the fallout: The pardoned criminals scoff pointing out that they have not been tried or convicted of anything, the corporate media parades operative after operative chastgating the "unconstitutional" slandering, whitch hunting liberal fools, then behind closed doors the criminals high five and do victory dances knowing that they will never be prosecuted for their crimes.
Robert Baer, a fomer CIA asset in the Middle east whose book was made into the movie Siriana, makes it clear that the CIA and many, many Muslims throughout the region were aware of the upcoming 9/11 attacks. Its a common feeling within the 9/11 Truth Communities that the immediate kidnapping and torturing of Afghanis and also hundreds of other Muslims from many locations around the world, along with the information or broadcasting that torturing was indeed going on against imprisoned Muslims, had two primary goals.
Energy Independence?!: BP, Chesapeake Energy, Castle Oil, Occidental Oil, and myriad of others Laying Off Workers in response Oil War with Saudi Arabia.
You can't have energy independence because the price of Oil and Gas are determined, ostensibly (at least it's supposed to be if we aren't in an election year), by global supply and demand (aka Wall St).
“Comfortable pair of shoes”: Hillary Clinton joins Michael Brown and Eric Garner protests for yet another night of calls for change.
Off course it's a joke. In fact, it is so out of the realm of possibility that it is profoundly, very profoundly sad!
Where is this country headed?
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I believe that pardoning Bush, but not Cheney would send a clear message to that Devil incarnate that we know he is the true war criminal. Bush was justt his stooge to a large extent.
I disagree with Tom's opinion that the USA doesn't torture historically. I think we would both agree that until the end of the Civil War the USA was the most barbaric place in the develop world where slaves were routinely worked to death, branded, whipped, castrated and tortured in other ways to horrific to dwell on. The USA was the worst.
“What to the American slave, is your Fourth of July?
“I answer: a day that reveals to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelty
John Kiriakou is in Federal Prison in Loretto PA for telling the American public about the torture going on at the CIA. Thom is talking about pardoning the criminals who condoned this torture. How about getting John Kiriakou's name out there as a person who stood against this practice and is paying the price.
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(i used Frigg'n cause I'm trying to cut down on my use of the word "fucking" as in "FUCKING DEMOCRATS!")...yea, i know, it's not going well, time for a new word goal)