Daily Topics - Friday May 21 2010 Anything Goes! Friday...Senator Bernie Sanders
By louisehartmann
Anything Goes Friday
"Brunch With Bernie" Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) spends the hour with Thom discussing the issues and answering listener questions www.sanders.senate.gov
Comments
#2
@harry re #36 reply... I don't know how many ways, or how more precisely, I can tell you I wasn't praising or detracting Jackson.
He was a man that walked around with a slug lodged in his shoulder from a duel he had got into. I can't say I agree with dueling with pistols, and for two people to so is well beyond my comprehension. Doesn't mean I think this made his policies correct, I don't, I'm just saying that he stood by his principles in an extreme way.
I'm in no way supportive of any of the land thieving policies of America, not then, not now.
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#3
President Obama said "after they drove the car into the ditch, made it as difficult as possible for us to pull iy back, now they want the keys back. No! You can't Drive!".
I was heartened to hear him remind people who caused the 2008 Great Resession. Add that to the Great Depression and they're not just bad drivers, they're crash dummies!
Negative branding of the liberal label has had serious consequences for Democrats. Conservatives succeeded in turning liberal into a disparaging word by using phrases like like tax and liberals want to take your hard earned money and big goverment liberals want to take away your freedom.
It's time make crash conseratives synonymous with a bad economy. Democrats need Frank Luntz type phrases branding Conseratives with economic incompetence. Democrats need to repeat the same phrases over and over until people are sick of hearing it and then repat them some more.
Everyone seems to be aware that Democrats have to do a better job of messaging but nothing seems to improve. What's the problem???
#4
@Foodfascist: I was agreeing with you about Salazar and the DLC White House . . .
#5
@harry ashburn, it will depend on what is in the cesspool. If we have flammable ingredients in the cesspool, I do not see the fires extinguished.
#6
@maxrot: I believed you the first time. relax. ;)
#7
@gerald, yeah, i never considered cesspools flammable, but they got to put all that oil somewhere..
#8
I plan to be buried with my asbestos underwear.
#9
@harry, you were the one beating the drum. I felt I had to dance to the rythm.
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#10
@maxrot: Cool! tomorrow come over and paint my house. 10 am.
#11
Rand Paul: Economic Collapse Could Lead To 'A Hitler' Coming To Power
Hitler . . . The last refuge of the insane, sociopathic and anti-societal.
#12
Maybe BP is pissing oil on our heads and telling us that it is raining.
#13
@harry, sure see you then.
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#14
Chip
Re: ... big goverment liberals want to take away your freedom.
As stated earlier, both parties are Hamiltonian (Big Government) parties. Unfortunately blind allegiance to a party prevents people from seeing the truth.
#15
@harry, I'll see if I can get you a FATHEAD decal of Cheney in full hunting regalia, taking aim with a shotgun in one hand, tumbler of scotch in the other. To adorn you freshly painted wall.
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#16
@gerald, re #62, no maybe about it.
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#17
Duncan: Texas Textbook Standards Won't Affect Rest Of U.S.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/duncan_texas_textbook_...
Going back to Obama Appointee inability: Perhaps someone needs to explain to our Secretary of Education that one should be informed about the subject he is pontificating about . . . If only there was a word that encapsulates that concept . . . Like "education".
Propaganda is not education.
#18
Tesla joins with Toyota to reopen Nummi plant
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/05/21/MNGP1DI8OL.DTL#ixzz0oaQlBcDWIf we own GM, why didn't the US or a US-based multi-national step in instead of Toyota? Why isn't the US pushing hard to develop the electric vehicle on a global scale?
#19
Sween_66
Re: Why isn't the US pushing hard to develop the electric vehicle on a global scale?
Have you watched "Who Killed the Electric Car"?
#20
I think the movie nailed it. However, our situation has changed dramatically since then and here is a second chance to get it right, especially since "we" own GM now.
#21
The success of the electric vehicle (and many other energy alternatives) is contingent on the development of some kind of magic bullet in the area of battery technology.
#22
Sween_66
It GM's debt that we own.
It seems to me that perhaps the Japanese auto makers pursue the electric car because it behooves them not to be beholden to the oil companies. Where as the US automakers have long had a cozy relationship with the oil corporations.
#23
@maxrot..thanx...that's my worst nightmare.
#24
@n8chz, I disagree, the success of the electric car depends on making them affordable to the public. Which can be done now. They're using the battery as an excuse, its the equivalent of saying we needed 300 gal gas tanks on the first cars to make them useful.
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#25
Increasingly a difficult cozy relationship to understand. The fortunes of either industry generally come at the expense of the other. Auto stocks and oil stocks, I would imagine, would be more countercyclical, as mentioned above, than Canadian and USian currencies.
#26
re sween_66's questions @ #68: Until Tesla came along, we appeared to need others to show us the way, although GM does have the Volt in or near production. The Tesla and Tesla+Toyota production is in "a little corner" of that CA plant. Maybe Tesla can grow into those shoes and start to shoulder aside the fossil fools in the oil+auto cartel that have led US around by the nose for far too long.
#27
Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility @ http://www.peer.org/
Will happily tell you about all the governmental abilities that have been stripped, privatized and de-funded.
#28
How do you make them affordable, in the sense that 'entry level' electrics are not priced among the luxury cars?
#29
GM paid back their debt at the end of the last quarter. We, the People, got zerata in the electric car conversation.
#30
@LeMoyne, currently two cities that neighbor me are competeing to get Tesla's new plant here in Los Angeles.
The only issue I have with the Tesla's are the price's I've seen for them. I can't get one. Someone needs to explain to them how Ford got to be so powerful.
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#31
Fnord imposed major austerity on its workforce back in 2007, and also raised capital by pawning virtually all of its holdings right down to its trademark and other intellectual property.
#32
Randall Howard Paul likes to be known as "RAND" --
to me in he is Randy Paul -- MM
#33
The Tesla Roadster is pricy (and all so totally sexy). The new sedan class is moving towards a reasonable price on a well accessorized and good-looking vehicle. Tesla’s well-documented pricing strategy forecasted this . . . .
#34
@harry, oh c'mon, that's your worst nightmare... wait till you see what I have planned for your bedroom wall.
That's right FATHEADs of W in his pilot costume (cod piece in full view) and Condi in a negligee, nestled in W's arms, with a Presidential Daily Briefing in her hand (want to take a guess what the title of the brief is?).
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#35
@rladlof, great what's the price forecast for the sedan?
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#36
GM's Phony Bailout PaybackThe company is setting the stage for another taxpayer shakedown
http://reason.com/archives/2010/04/27/gms-phony-bailout-payback
#37
thanks for MERKLEY --
good morning from camp luna linda --
caught a your bit on the radio between car parking --
roadtrip to B'ham -- MM
#38
Thom YES MONOPLY - we need a term that acts as a button to activate the troops against.
#39
Base Price is $49,900 . . . Still pricy but . . .
#40
@rladlof...... yeah, that's still a wee bit above my price range.
#41
@maxrot re:#84: Please! anything but Bride of Chucky in a negligee! um...Please! anything but GWB in his codpiece! ...there's always blindness.
#42
Tesla Toyota-
yes Radlof, heard this yesterday afternoon. Tesla was having problems getting funding for quite some time. Lets see if we can have the big 4 now, an improvement on the big 3.
#43
ALERT: Danger, Will Robinson, Danger:
California Prop 16 is damnation of California into a fourth world economy.
#44
Thom,
Prop 14 was a deal struck between Democrats and Maldanondo to get his single Republican vote to balance our budget a year ago. How pathetic. But yes Sir, we will vote no.
#45
I'm no economist but isn't "economy of scale" the way to make products cheaper? I couldn't afford a computer in college in the 80s (of course that was before the easy credit dam burst) but now they're pretty cheap. We subsidize the cost of cheap gas already, why not subsidize cheap electric cars? Look at the issues it touches: climate change, employment, trade imbalance , tech and I'm sure there are others.
#46
But just click through the pictures . . . Sigh.
I drive a 2003 Toyota Prius and am saving my pennies.
#47
@harry, guess I shouldn't invoke images of Rumsfeld in your bathroom then, or Rove in your kitchen...
We do have the whole house to paint right?
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#48
Simply said, all Californians, vote yes only for Prop 15, all others are a NO!
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#49
I'm spilt on the earthquake improvements Proposition.
#50
@rladlof, you don't have to get all shook up about it, that one doesn't really matter either way, I just tend to recommend a No vote to any prop you don't have a good reason to vote yes for.
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