Daily Topics - Thursday November 18th, 2010

Quote of the Day: “Just what is it that America stands for? If she stands for one thing more than another it is for the sovereignty of self-governing people.” -- Woodrow T. Wilson

Hour One: Is the TSA hiring perverts...or are perverts trying to get jobs at the TSA? Erin Chase, blogger/author of "$5 Dinner Mom Cookbook" shares her outrageous experience www.5dollardinners.com

Hour Two: What is the most stupid way to combat Muslim terrorism? Thom debates Keith Davies of the Forum for Middle Eastern Understanding http://ffmu.org Plus, Geeky Science Rocks - What do flies, mice and humans all have in common?

Hour Three: Is Obama a failed President? Thom has a rumble with Dan Gainor of the Business and Media Institute www.businessandmedia.org

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#2

Obama is talking to advisors about switching parties. He wants to be re-elected and this may be his only chance.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Obama-to-Switch-Party-by-Michael-Collins-101114-821.html

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#3

Here is my comment for Thom on November 18, 2010.

Thom is an amazing person. He shares with us his optimism for America’s future. I have serious doubt whether or not Thom knows the difference between optimism and true optimism. Optimism can wane but true optimism will not wane.

True optimism is an eighty-five year old man married to a twenty-five year old woman and they buy a home near an elementary school.

Here is my comment for Thom’s listeners and readers.

We looked up in the sky and we saw a flying GOP elephant. The GOP elephant looked down on us and dumped on us a mother load of all mother loads.

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#4

Here is a new game in town.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_declining_marriage

A depression that will last through the Twenty-first Century has created a mess for Americans.

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#5

God Is Involved

I have tried to delay this comment. This comment brought me an internal conflict that is similar to an old fashion alley mugging. The words in my comment have preyed on my body, mind, and soul. I am revealing these words because I believe passionately in what I will say to you. I have tried to share information that would call Americans to move in the direction of God and for our repentance. We, as Americans, have chosen not to repent and so here is my comment, a dire and sad comment.

We will need to know how God deals with the world. He is intimately involved with every single activity in the world. God knows every reality that exists within His mysterious reality that every being is sustained by Him. Whether we like it or not, God is involved in every famine and harvest. Whether we think about it or not, God is part of every virtuous act and dastardly deed. Whether we like it or not, the history of the world, the story of our life, and the activity of God are intertwined together, world without end. God is involved in every peaceful mission and in every war.

America has turned her back on God; America has killed God’s children; America has followed false prophets like Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and Obama; and America will always remain greedy, selfish and self-centered. America is also the most evil, vile, and wicked nation on planet, Earth. What is happening in America and in our world reminds me of the story of Job.

In the Bible there is in the Old Testament, the Book of Job. Job lived about 500 or 600 years before the birth of Jesus Christ. It was also around the time that God was not pleased with His people. God has given everything to the people and they were not listening to Him. They were not willing to help one another and their lives were very sinful. God was going to destroy the earth.

For some reason God was going to give the world another chance. He was going to test the world with one person and that person was Job. Job was a man of prayer and he would also praise God. God blessed Job with wealth, land, property, and family. God slowly started to take away what He had given to Job. Job still prayed and praised God. A neighbor came by one day and he talked to Job. He said to Job that God was punishing him and Job still prayed and praised God. How could Job continue to love God? Job said to his neighbor that it was God’s will and God knows best.

God was so moved by Job’s words and loyalty that He spared the earth from destruction. Job’s behavior silenced God. God would speak only one more time. God spoke at Jesus’ baptism in the Jordan River. “This is my son in whom I am well pleased.”

From Jesus’ death to the present we keep hearing that God works in mysterious ways. With God there are no surprises. No, God does not work in mysterious ways. He has given us His son and the words of Jesus. Our problem is that we refuse to listen to God’s son and His words. God has been testing the world through the United States of Mortal Sin. God has not chosen a person; He has chosen a country. The United States of Mortal Sin is now the Job of the New Testament.

Job, the country, has failed every test. Job, the country, holds steadfastly to hatred, corruption, and lies. She has also embraced murders and war crimes. She has also turned her back on God and God’s son, Jesus. Christianity is no longer Job’s religion. Job and the country’s beauty believe that they are better than God. Like Lucifer, the most beautiful of God’s angels, Job believes that God is not needed and the axis of evil is better than God. Job’s axis of evil clings to money, nuclear weapons, and false prophets and their words.

Job, the country, will also bring down the rest of world and its population. Job has failed God and her destruction and the world’s destruction are imminent.

We must never forget that the pain and suffering upon our nation will be endless because Americans refuse to repent. Yes, it is God’s will because He knows best. God is involved in every activity and aspect of our life from our joys and to our miseries. The slaughter of the Democrats by the fascist-Nazi Party, aka the GOP, was God’s will and He knows best. The domination of the United States Supreme Court over ninety percent of Americans is God’s will and He knows best. The enslavement of ninety percent of the people by ten percent of the American rich and American corporations is God’s will and He knows best. You must never forget that GOD IS INVOLVED.

The United States of the GOP

The GOP has finally solidified its legacy as the United States of the GOP. Let us look at the GOP power grab! Unions will be long abolished; Social Security and Medicare will be memories; pensions and retirement benefits will be vilified as socialistic; the rich will pay zero in taxes; minimum wages will be cut to about $1 per hour; the great concept of America will have vanished; with the Citizens Unified decision by the Supreme Court the GOP can now buy elections; during the Bush administration America saw the closing of 40,000 factories and the loss of 6 million factory jobs; we also saw huge increases in health premiums, two wars, and an economy on the brink of a depression. More damage, pain, and suffering will become evident from the United States of GOP’s power grab.

The United States of the GOP is unwilling to repent. Our nation is embedded with the mentality that must continue to kill God’s children. Unless we are willing to repent Americans will experience ongoing pain and suffering for generations.

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Gene Savory 9 years 44 weeks ago
#6

Thom, note that Issa has $300 million; he is not "worth" that much.

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Maxrot 9 years 44 weeks ago
#7

Well Obama has only himself to blame for his dismal political prospects. Tis a pity its going to put the Democratic party into a tail spin too, but the leadership of the Democratic party hasn't exactly worked very hard to support its platform of late either.

N

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Maxrot 9 years 44 weeks ago
#8

Alright, lets all go to the airport and get felt up.

N

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Maxrot 9 years 44 weeks ago
#9

Sounds like we as citizens have an opportunity to make a stand. I haven't been on a plane since I was 9, but now I want to take a trip. Any law against getting excited while being pat down? Can I single out the screener I want to do the pat down to me.... like the hot brunette over there?

"Oh yeah darling, lower.... lower... yeah now back up higher higher, NO just a bit lower, can you squeeze me there... ahhh yeah... got a cigarette???"

Personally the reaction of the same sex screener would be worth it. Listen America their giving you lemons, make lemonade.

N

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Gene Savory 9 years 44 weeks ago
#10

Wendy O. Williams produced a song named "Don't Touch Me There."

This was evidently written for the TSA.

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rk38 9 years 44 weeks ago
#11

This assault on American dignity was forecasted eloquently by Naomi Wolf in 2007 in her book and documentary, "End of America: Letter to a Young Patriot". In her book she discussed the 10 common steps to shutting down an open society.

Naomi Wolf spoke extensively about the full body scanners which would be used in order to mock and break down Americans' dignity. Just another step in breaking us down for the upcoming 21st century reality of totalitarianism. Check it out!

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Gene Savory 9 years 44 weeks ago
#12

Ooooh! An opportunity to get a free colonoscopy at the airport!

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Maxrot 9 years 44 weeks ago
#13

Time to buy stock in Rail Road and Steam Ship Companies. The Republicans are getting their deepest desires in odd ways, soon we'll be right back to the guilded age, the age of robber barons and wage slavery.

N

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j.sea 9 years 44 weeks ago
#14

Republican'ts...............

Now that John ("Hell, no you can't") Boehner is officially the Speaker, it is time to officially re-christen the Party of No with their Obstructionist Platform:
The REPUBLICAN'TS.

This name change would reflect the finalization of the gradual change in the party over the last thirty years from a working representative body into a solid wall that exists solely to protect the interests of multi-national billionaires, various mercenaries, financial and environmental predators who already regard the American People as easily manipulated peasants, and who will continue to relentlessly say, "Hell, no you can't!" to anyone who has any true concern for the well-being of our American communities.

(Maybe we need to say to the radiation scanners: "Hell, No you Can't!")

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Gene Savory 9 years 44 weeks ago
#15

@Maxrot: Wage slavery never went away. The slaveholders just went global, with the aid of governments and military forces. We now have the full gamut of slave systems to demonstrate our creativity.

These people are genuine sociopaths.

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Blue Mark 9 years 44 weeks ago
#16

"the TSA doesn’t provide security. It provides security theater"

The TSA has announced that every major airport in the nation now has a body scanner. Most only one. Which means they will have to further concentrate screening to that one location.

Which means terrorists will no longer have to be extremely clever to get explosives on planes. They can just strap a hundred pounds of dynamite under their clothes and put another 100 pounds in their carry-on luggage, and detonate it in the middle of the crowd waiting to get through TSA screening. Unless they start screening people in order to get into screening queues, *people* are no safer due to TSA screening. But at least the planes are.

Yep, it isn't really good security, but it is incredible theater. Just think about it, Americans have been convinced that their safety depends on letting a stranger view their naked bodies and having their genitals fondled. And the whole time their actual safety is being compromised. It's like a multi-billion dollar performance art installation.

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Maxrot 9 years 44 weeks ago
#17

@Gene, all creatures are slaves to food an shelter if you wish to get esoteric. The middle class boom post WWII arguably was the least slave-like existence for the common man in history. I'm talking about the wage slavery existence of facing things like debtor's prison and the work houses of yore when you don't have the money to make ends meet along with the majority of your peers.

N

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MugsysRapSheet 9 years 44 weeks ago
#18

bin Laden, McVeigh... *Manson*

Thom, you mentioned how McVeigh's goal was to "trick" the government into declaring war on gun owners and such, provoking an anti-government uprising, and noted how bin Laden also sought to "trick" the U.S. into a war between the U.S. and Muslims trying "help along" a holy war he believed was already coming, just not fast enough for him.

If you remember, this is not the first time this thinking took place.

You may remember that Charles Manson's "Helter Skelter" murder spree was intended to provoke a race war between blacks and whites that Manson believed was already coming.

"Paranoids" all, they perceive a looming threat they are CERTAIN is coming, but when it never comes, they become so frustrated they act to "help things along".

This is what makes Glenn Beck and his followers so dangerous.

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Gene Savory 9 years 44 weeks ago
#19

@Maxrot: The use of slaves, whether chattel or virtual, has been refined such that Debtors Goals and workhouses are not necessary. Why keep slaves on your property when you can call them "free" while requiring them to take care of themselves? If the slaves don't like it, then they can be sent to prison for a peripheral reason (stealing food) and forced to work. Also a very good deal for the Prison Industrial Complex.

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Maxrot 9 years 44 weeks ago
#20

Saying Bush gave Osama what he wanted is to ignore all those who were complicit then and NOW. It lets a lot of people off the hook.

N

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CHIPSHIRLEY.COM 9 years 44 weeks ago
#21

Thom I've never heard a show where you are so wrong about so many things...you must be rusty...

1. YOU GET MORE RADIATION FLYING THAN FROM THE SCANNER...Just getting on a transcontinental flight exposes one to roughly 1,000 times more radiation than undergoing a TSA body scan.

2. I have personal experience in dealing with the illegal drug trade and I know from experience (legal experience) that getting the drug (or in your scenario, bomb) condom to come out is very difficult to predict and no bomber would risk being able to make that happen on the plane. It can take up to three days to pass the condom and 'mules' biggest fear is being killed and cut open for the drugs!

3. Jane Hamsher is obviously a neo-con in sheeps clothing she is in bed with Grover Nordquist and has never said one good thing about Prez O.

CHIPSHIRLEY.COM

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CHIPSHIRLEY.COM 9 years 44 weeks ago
#22

Every single thing you have posted has been a lie or neo-con Likud party hate propaganda. You will find the gates of heaven locked tightly unless you reform yourself.

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#23

Groping a child will have long lasting effects for both boys and girls. Their psyche can be damaged for the rest of their lives.

I would hope that when I am groped, I will be able to fart in the TSA's face.

I have my prostate checked once a year. The doctor has me on the office table; I spread my legs; and he checks my prostate through my rectum. I predict that airports will have similar tables and every person (accept Muslim women) will be placed on the table and the check up will include the rectum (men) and the rectum and vagina (women). Very attractive women will have a thorough check up from her noses to her toes.

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ksmith6502 9 years 44 weeks ago
#24

Hi Thom,

I'm a big fan. We met when you spoke at the Aviation Heritage Museum, here in Anchorage, less than two years ago. I'm retired now but once was a bush pilot, then an airline exec. later an airport official; at one time I managed Anchorage International, after that I trained airport managers throughout my state. I'm 70.

Like you, my wife and I travel a lot. In the last few weeks we were thru the Amsterdam airport and also the Dubai airport. I'm not exactly happy with the U.S. public reaction to airport security right now. But I do understand what is going on. The McClatchy newspapers published an article today that may be a partial solution. Here is the link.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/11/17/103930/us-firm-may-have-solution-to-airport.html

I'm also a huge fan of Keith Olbermann. However, last night I wasn't enamored with his guest who spoke on this security subject. It was my observation that the guy didn't really understand aviation security very well, even though the network attempted to bolster his creditability with a reference to Israeli air carrier El Al. His comments were just one big contradiction. Below is a recent post of mine regarding this issue:

"Apparently John Tyner was paranoid that someone might see his thing. Having served in the airline game and the airport business I witnessed the belligerent attitude toward airport security measures by both the public and the airlines over a 30 year stretch. I recall an airline magnate standing up in a security conference in 1995 and shouting at the FAA that they “must believe there is an Arab hiding under every rock”. Carriers continued to exert political pressure upon the FAA’s Civil Aviation Security Division until security procedures degenerated to the point where perpetrators successfully commandeered four airliners at the same time resulting in the 9/11 catastrophic event. I see the same scenario beginning to unfold all over again. Keep on whining travelers. You’ll get yourselves another catastrophe, then run in circles scream and shout, elect yourselves another George W. Bush, who in turn will again napalm women and kids in some innocent country. So goes another chapter in the “Dumbing down of America”."

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DRichards 9 years 44 weeks ago
#25

How to Persuade Stubborn People

As anyone who has tried to educate people with facts knows, it is very difficult to persuade stubborn people.

New research sheds some light on this frustrating dynamic...

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/

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Maxrot 9 years 44 weeks ago
#26

Gene if all forms of economic existence are boiled down to always being a form slavery, then the word loses all meaning. That's all I'm saying in response to your nullification of my original use of the term.

So how about this, life will get even more miserable for the common man... can we agree to that? Perhaps you have a word that suits the situation better... I'm no walking dictionary. Perhaps I can just pull a Palin and make up a word that I thought already existed though?

N

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j.sea 9 years 44 weeks ago
#27

Time to have Naomi Wolf back.

gerald's picture
gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#28

Are airport scanners in collaboration with our federal government to kill off as many human beings as it can with skin cancer? Project for a New American Century has said that the planet can only sustain 500 million people.

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sugarchai 9 years 44 weeks ago
#29

Has anyone considered the danger of these scanners to pregnant women? Does that mean that every pregnant woman who wants to fly in this country has to automatically be patted down? And what about women who are pregnant, but don't know it?

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#30

**Reflection of the Week** "Sensitivity to the immense needs of humanity brings with it a spontaneous rejection of the arms race, which is incompatible with the all out struggle against hunger, sickness, under-development and illiteracy.
-- Pope John Paul II

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Maxrot 9 years 44 weeks ago
#31

"The more you tighten your grip, the more Star systems will slip through your fingers."

Sure its a Sci-Fi movie quote, but it applies to the tightening security policies. Face it this is an over reach... people are already taking a stand, even if its to do nothing more then to not travel or travel in an optional manner.

N

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DRichards 9 years 44 weeks ago
#32

My wife says the next time she flies, she's wearing a burka!

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#33

At the UN in 1965, Pope Paul VI declared:

"No more war. War never again."

The abolition of slavery never seemed possible...but we did it.

The abolition of war doesn't seem possible...but we must do it.

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Gene Savory 9 years 44 weeks ago
#34

Maxrot: The measure of slavery, exploitation, etc. is the amount of work extracted from people that allows others to benefit without doing any work themselves. The more imbalance, the more society suffers.

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#35
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ljanosko 9 years 44 weeks ago
#37

I actually just got out of an airport meeting where they discussed the new congressional transportation committee members desire to privatize the TSA. I kid you not, they want this out of the hands of federal employees. Not only will we be groped but it will be from Halliburton or one of their subsidiaries and we will probably have no legal ability to sue if abused.

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Maxrot 9 years 44 weeks ago
#38

So Gene what your saying is life for the common man has been completely flat lined from the beginning of history, never getting better, never able to be less than zero. At no time was life for the average been acceptable or tolerable, so there is no need to worry about it and no need to fight for something better?

I just don't see it that way, I think there were times in which the average man could have a secure life and provide the necessities of life while still being allowed to enjoy ample leisure time. Perhaps that is still slavery to you, but in my mind slavery is spending every waking moment in involuntary subservience to another. A slave doesn't get to voice their opinion, or question their existence out loud. The rise of the Unions in the 20th century was a repudiation of the bosses and brought about a small amount of freedom for the average American. Sure it wasn't a workers paradise, or utopia, but is wasn't an endless existence of demeaning acceptance either. Things such as welfare, unemployment insurance, workers compensation and Social Security didn't exist in the guilded age, if you couldn't work you were cast out to die in the wilderness. If having such social safety nets still just amounts to being a slave, then we are all slaves and doomed to be nothing but slaves since by merely existing you are a slave.

My original point was calling out that we are devolving back to an age where an individual had no redress against the corporate monolith. Where monopolies were as common and legal as dirt. A time when society cared not a wit for the helpless, and routinely ground them under its iron heel.

If you think no progress had been made against that system, that aberration of civil society. Why believe anything can be done to wrest the power from the few, why hope for a better life if life can't get better? I believe slavery is the ultimate expression of repression, and frankly I don't think we have always been at that level, are at the level or will always be at that level. I also don't think its practical to believe that some day we'll all live in small tribal/family communities in which we all have equal say. Though even in that situation, I'm sure those who are not getting their tribe to move in the direction they want it to go will feel like slaves to the majority.

N

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Gene Savory 9 years 44 weeks ago
#39

Maxrot: My comments are analysis, not advocacy and not surrender or an expresson of hopelessness.

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sugarchai 9 years 44 weeks ago
#40

Hey Thom--the dialogue is fascinating, but your mike is still hot.

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Maxrot 9 years 44 weeks ago
#41

I didn't think you were trying to express that... however one could get such an impression. I suppose that is the danger when generalizing. Which is why I fleshed out my take on the meaning of slavery. To lump things into broad categories instead of specifics, opens up the interpretation to all sorts of pitfalls.

N

Gene Savory's picture
Gene Savory 9 years 44 weeks ago
#42

Maxrot: OK. I'll work on being more precise.

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Lunarelle 9 years 44 weeks ago
#43

This talk of groping has me flashing back to when I travelled to Europe with my mom, when I was a very immature and overly shy teenager. We were getting on a TWA plane from Rome to NYC. This was when hijacking was the terrorism of choice. I was taken by a female, non English speaking security agent into a curtained off booth, as were all the passengers, and felt up. I can't remember which body parts specifically were touched, but I remember feeling totally humiliated. As someone who has already had skin cancer, and as a physician who knows the risk of low level radiation, I will refuse scanning, but not looking forward to the possibility of groping. Unfortunately my usual destinations do not have any other methods of transportation feasible other than flying.

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Maxrot 9 years 44 weeks ago
#44

As will I. But don't sweat it too much, you helped me draw out my meaning more so, and for that I thank you.

N

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#45

OBAMA MAKES ME PUKE!!! Did he talk to the head of TSA and ask that child psychiatrists should offer their input into the groping of children and the lasting affects of such groping? So much for our call on family values!!! Hypocrisy is totally rampant in this country called the United States of Mortal Sin.

I have a second cousin who is a TSA agent and she recently married a TSA agent. My opinion of him is that he is a first class a-hole, a cocky, smart ass. He has an ego-centered personality.

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#46

I commend Thom for avoiding flying unless it is very necessary such as illness in the family, a wedding, a funeral, etc. These are some examples that will require flying.

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#47

My Calling Is From God

I truly believe that Divine Providence has inspired me to evangelize the world through the use of the internet. When the truth is heard, the United States of Mortal Sin and the world will be able to move toward love, mercy, forgiveness, and healing.

The focus of my lay ministry will be on love, mercy, forgiveness, and healing.

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gerald 9 years 44 weeks ago
#48

Here is my original statement on the story of Job.

It Is God’s Will

I have for sometime been concerned with our pre-emptive war strategies. Bush II calls his doctrine preventive wars. You start wars to prevent wars. How is that for brain dead reasoning?

As the death toll mounts from the United States of Mortal Sin’s adventures, I am deeply saddened by our killing of all of God’s children. How can I reconcile my futile attempt through internet evangelization messages with the fact that I have no power to eliminate wars?

I go back and recall my reading of a book by a Jesuit priest who wrote the book that was an autobiography of God. Some people will say how can God have written the book when the priest’s name is on the book? I believe the author’s name on the book was Father Moran. Father Moran uses experiences from the Old Testament and God is given credit. Father Moran did not make up these experiences and so he gives God credit for writing the book. One particular experience is about Job.

Job was a person who some people would say he was a fictional person and other people would say he was a non-fictional person. Whoever he was is a great read. Job was a man of God. He had faith in God and he prayed to God. God was pleased with Job by giving him money, possessions, property, a wife, and children. People believe whether it is the Old Testament or the New Testament that God favors the good person with gifts and he punishes the bad person with problems.

Slowly, God began to take away what he had given to Job. On one day a neighbor came by and he was talking to Job about God’s punishment toward him. He asked Job why does he still have faith in God and why does he still pray to God. Job answered the neighbor by saying. “It is God’s Will because God knows best.”

When it comes to the United States of Mortal Sin’s murderous policies and practices in Iraq and throughout the world, I, too, must say that it is God’s Will because God knows best. I am deeply saddened with this acceptance because the very thought that God permits our murderous policies and practices throughout the world saddens me. I repeat Job’s words because I have no answers for questions about America’s inhumanity toward humanity. I now truly believe that only God can move America toward a better world of love and mercy.

In order to function in my daily life, I need some answers to questions for America’s madness in her treatment of human beings. We accept of God’s Will because God knows best and that may be our answer.

Why does God permit this pain and suffering? I can only say that God is probably permitting pain and suffering because He desires for all of us to help each other as His children. We, as a family and a community, must work together so that all of God’s children can live well and enjoy living in a peaceful world. We are being tested by God and we need to look inside ourselves to answer the question whether or not we deserve to be with God for all eternity. There will be people of many faiths in heaven and many of God’s children will be with Him. If we hate God’s children on earth, how can we want to be in heaven with our hatred for His children?

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DRichards 9 years 44 weeks ago
#49

Mr Forbes apparently believes our justice system is faulty because the jurors are incapable of rendering a guilty verdict based on the evidence provided.

This week, Guantanamo Bay detainee Ahmed Ghailani was convicted in federal civilian court on only one count of conspiracy to destroy government buildings and property for his role in the 1998 embassy bombings in Africa. He was acquitted of over 284 other counts, including every murder count related to deaths of twelve Americans and 212 other innocent victims.

The failure of the civilian court to convict him on the most serious terrorism charges is proof that the Administration is wrong when they say foreign terrorists can be adequately tried in civilian courts.

This is why I have introduced legislation to prohibit the transfer of Guantanamo detainees to Virginia and offered a motion to recommit to ensure that no funding allocated in the defense authorization bill be used to transfer, release, or assist in the transfer or release of Guantanamo detainees.

I will continue to work to stop the Department of Justice from putting detainees, including 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, on trial in civilian courts to ensure both the protection of American citizens and justice for the families who have lost loved ones as a result of 9/11 and acts of terrorism abroad. Please share your thoughts on this important issue by e-mailing me here.

Yours in service,

Randy Forbes
Member of Congress

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Lunarelle 9 years 44 weeks ago
#50

just noticed this at an online shopping site

http://www.uncommongoods.com/product/disappearing-civil-liberties-mug

made in China no less

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