Daily Topics - Thursday January 24th, 2012

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Hour One: Threats to kill Obama over healthcare - Peter Suderman, Reason Magazine

Hour Two: Are atheists an enemy of God - Pastor Bradlee Dean, Sons of Liberty Radio / Plus, Geeky Science Rocks - why the evolution of dogs is important...

Hour Three: There's only one way to stop GOP rigging the vote...here it is

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ckrob 13 years 11 weeks ago
#1

Let Senator Reid be replaced as leader of the Majority by vote of his caucus!!!!!

Let's get ALL the Senate Dems on record re abuse of the filibuster.

I'm ready to support primarying the Dinos at every opportunity financiallly as I did for Elizabeth Warren and Sherrod Brown.

mathboy's picture
mathboy 13 years 11 weeks ago
#2

I haven't heard a full explanation of this "polygon" idea for districting, but I think my way is pretty good too. It creates some safe districts on each end and some swing districts, just by making districts based on population density.

mathboy's picture
mathboy 13 years 11 weeks ago
#3

What else is interesting about the domestication of dogs is that when dogs go feral, they revert to the scavenging that Thom talked about, not all the way back to wolves. This indicates that the ancestor of the domesticated species--in other words the species that human started with--was not wolves, but a scavenging species descended from ancient wolves.

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edcat01 13 years 11 weeks ago
#4

Off this subject, but.

The 2nd amendment.

The second amendment to the constitution had nothing to do with individual rights to own guns. It was all about the right of state militias to be operated within the states.

This was a carefully crafted amendment for stated rights, not personal rights.

I can break this down in part so that each part is made clear.

First of all, it state: “ A well regulated Militia,…
This is talking about an organization set forth by the state and under state statues.

Next: “Being necessary to the security of a free state…
This is to state that each state has some freedom from federal laws toward the militia they form as a state, not individuals, but the state government.

“The right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
Meaning that the rights of the people within the state regulated militias have the rights set forth by the states to keep militia arms and to use them as a show of force when needed.

At the time what was called arms was limited to muskets and swords. When a call to arms was set forth, all men with rifles and swords were to force. Pistols were not part of what they believed as an arm.

Next part:
Shall not be infringed.
Meaning the rights of the federal government to call to arms would not be limited to the federal government, but under those of the states as the states set forth for their militia. And that if the state decided the action was not in the interest of the state, they could withhold their militia from the action.

Nowhere within the 2nd amendment does it give the right for an individual to own a weapon, only to keep and bear them in times of need and only when they are a member of the regulated state militia.

I was a member of the military during the Vietnam ‘war’. I was ‘given’ a weapon and the ammunition for it. When my time was ended for the use of the weapon, it was not mine to keep, but went back into the armory of the military. As did all the ammunition I had not used.

When this amendment was written, many people did not own an “arm” as defined by the times and were ‘issued’ them and the ammunition. In many cases these people were able to “keep” the weapon so that they were ready upon call to service. But when the time came for them to leave that called service, the weapon and ammunition also was recalled.

Also, at the time, both military and civilian rifles were basically the same. The premiere rifle (musket) was a British rifle called the ‘Brown Bess’. It was not only sold as a military weapon, but also to sportsmen. It was NOT an assault weapon, everyone with the money could buy them. The assault weapon of the time was a cannon, by law and money. Only a government could own them.

History does not lie, only the people who tell it.

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