Thom Hartmann: OK, what happened on 9/11? That’s a subject of great controversy, debate and discussion. And let’s get into it. First, we’re going to have David Aaronovitch on.

Thom Hartmann: Their website, Docs4PatientCare.org, and their mission statement: “Patients, step one: contact your U.S. representative and two senators immediately to voice your opposition to this legislation.” This legislation, their specific criticisms of HR3200 but I’m guessing, well, we’ll find out in a moment. Their contact information is on our action center, very nice website. A lot of details. “Put extra pressure on the blue dogs who are listed,” it says. “Number two: sign up for our newsletter.

[The show was broadcast live from the Barrymore Theater in Madison, WI.]

Okay, here’s, over at DemocraticUnderground.com, one of my favorite web sites, a great post here by berni_mccoy. He says, “If we’re going to name the healthcare bill after Senator Kennedy,” and there’s been a lot of talk about this, I mentioned this yesterday. Why don't we name this, if you’re going to name a healthcare bill, get it out, name it the Ted Kennedy memorial Bill, you know.

Thom Hartmann: OK, here’s some of the stuff that I’m getting in e-mail and I'm seeing in the media, and it’s just, you know, flying all over the place. This one is, I’ve probably gotten thirty copies of this, mostly from the usual right-wing sources, this is going out to the same people who getting the Obama-doesn’t-have-a-birth-certificate crowd. I’m on everybody’s mailing list.

Now's the time to finally realize
we the people must make some choices!
If we want single payer health care,
now's the time to raise our voices
'til they hear US in the halls of congress
& behind the white House door.
That we're sick & tired of gettin' sold out
and won't take it anymore!!!

Now's the time for single payer!
Now's the time to wake up this nation!
Now's the time for single payer! Now's the time!
Our tomorrows will depend on what we do today

Thom Hartmann: Welcome back to our second hour. James Bamford is with us, or is back with us. The internationally best selling, New York Times best selling author, expert on national security issues, new book out “The Shadow Factory,” his most recent book, "Body of Secrets" was just mind-boggling.

Thom asks Wayne Root why distribute risk with military, police & fire departments but not for health? 25 August 2009

Thom Hartmann: ABC News is reporting a profanity-laced screaming match at the White House, between CIA Director Leon Panetta, and “a senior Administration official”, a “senior White House staff member”. Actually calling him a staff member, I wondering if that might be Rahm Emmanuel, particularly since it was profanity-laced.

Thom Hartmann Welcome back, Thom Hartmann here with you. The Constitution of the United States refers to the, to Habeas Corpus. This very, very simple and straightforward process that if you are arrested, you have the right to, well there’s a whole series of these rights that are articulated in the Bill of Rights, the 5th amendment, you have the right to not speak in your own defense, or to not speak against yourself if necessary and to compel testimony. You have, under the 6th amendment, you have the right to a fair trial, to be tried before a jury of your peers.

Thom Hartmann: Our quote for day from Dennis Kucinich: “Peace is a civil right which makes other human rights possible. Peace is a precondition for our existence. Peace permits our continued existence.” Peace is not what is being whipped up by the right today and frankly by the corporate media.

Thom Hartmann: But to the healthcare debate. There is a new, a new group over on Facebook. Let me just set this up by sharing this with you. It’s called ‘One million strong against our socialist fire departments.’ The topic: ‘For far too long fire departments across the United States have been socialist organizations resulting in taxes on the American people. Fact: Most Americans never use the socialized services of the fire department.

Thom Hartmann: Greetings my friends, patriots, lovers of democracy, truth and justice, believers in peace, freedom and the American way. Thom Hartmann here with you.

Carl Wolfson and Christine Alexander from the KPOJ morning show guest hosted for Thom who was on the road.

Thom Hartmann: Here’s where we stand. When King John signed the Magna Carta at Runnymede in 1215 in England, there were 500 million humans on Earth. We had filled every continent, every continental space on this planet except Antarctica, and the world was not lightly populated. By 1800 we hit our first one billion, one thousand million, one billion people. All of human history, one billion people, in 1800. 2nd billion took only 130 years, 1930. 3rd billion took only 30 years, 1960. 4th billion took only 14 years, 1974. 5th billion took only 13 years, 1987.