I wonder if Romneycare was subjected to all these procrastinations during it's implementation as the Massachuscetts health insurance law? I question the Obama Administrations motives here. I smell graft, money, secret deals for relatives, family members, etc...... or in other words, business as usual going on in Washington.

Unearned easy money capitalism at our expense needs to end. We can no longer afford to pay insurance CEO's multi millions.

We shouldn't even be having this discussion, healthcare, energy, and education, should all be not for profit and under the control of the general public. Most of the rest of the world already has it right on the healthcare part.

Obama isn't turning on you Libs he Is finally understanding the true cost of what he is doing And it is scaring the hell out of him. DAnne a $5,000 deductible. As a Canadian I can tell you that is nothing every working Canadian pays way more than that in extra taxes every year to fund FREE health care. As the true cost of Obama care comes out, you will see. Your take home pay will drop to nothing. Start saving now well you can.

Quote Palindromedary:Those "out-of-pocket" limits, aren't much different than insurance without Obamacare. When we are all forced to shell out to the insurance companies under Obamacare, the insurance companies will raise their rates even more. Now, since it has been revealed that limits won't be put on insurance companies the insurance companies will charge what they want.

Palindromedary ~ I wish to share a personal story with you and others about Obamacare. This story is about three coworkers of mine who have been touched by illness since our company had to switch over to an Obamacare approved company plan earlier this year. We now have a $5,000/year deductible. Two coworkers were diagnosed with early cancers. Before their treatments BEGAN they maxed out their deductibles. The insurance has been covering the illness ever since; but, they are now in debt. Both are desperately trying to get all the treatments they can before the end of the year when they will have to pay out of pocket again. The other coworker had a mild case of tonsillitis. A really bad sore throat! No surgery; but, he had to go to emergency and get a saline solution drip and a couple of pills. Something that in Mexico or Canada would have been completely covered by the national heath care plan with no copay. Something that with our old pre-Obamacare insurance would have come with a $100.00 co-pay. With Obama care, that one hour in emergency maxed out his $5,000.00 deductible. Now he is hoping to qualify for a Tonsillectomy before January 31st in order to get his moneys worth and avoid having to get hit again next year. Meanwhile, he and others are looking for a second job just to pay this ridiculous deductible.

Obamacare is a windfall for the health care insurance industry. "Obama the Orator who became Barack the Betrayer" sounds about right to me! Thanks Loren Bliss!

WHERE IS THE SINGLE-PAYER HEALTH CARE THIS MAN PROMISED THAT I VOTED FOR!!!!

PRESIDENT OBAMA IS A LIAR!!!

I am so disappointed in all of this. I see so much hatred for the poor too in commentaries online, and if you can't afford medical care people say they do not want to pay taxes to help anyone. Not only the poor, but middle-class people who just can't afford expensive medical care anymore. And the elderly who don't have enough money. It is all just so disappointing.

Too bad I live so far away from the WH. Could they protest in CA as well?

“We had to balance the interests of consumers with the concerns of health plan sponsors and carriers, which told us that their computer systems were not set up to aggregate all of a person's out-of pocket costs.”

There is positive proof that the White House official who said that to the NY Times lied as blatantly as anyone ever has lied, unless the official didn't bother to check the validity of sources and claims made by the insurance companies.

Anyone on Medicare who also uses a Medicare Advantage Plan knows that such plans have *computerized aggregation* of out-of-pocket expenses. I have had a Humana plan since my disability in 2008 that shows the cap on my out-of-pocket as well as what I've paid out-of-pocket to date within the year.

It's easy enough for an insurance company to aggregate these costs by assigning the project to their software engineers since they already have that capability if they provide a Medicare Advantage Plan.

How dumb do they think we are, anyway? Even a brain-damaged three-time stroke survivor like me isn't fooled.

Postal Service - H.R.6407 — 109th Congress (2005-2006)

Does not appear to be any amendments to the bill:

It says - Passed Senate without amendment by Unanimous Consent.

http://beta.congress.gov/bill/109th/house-bill/6407/actions

Quote hartmann: The healthcare law was supposed to restrict out-of-pocket expenses to about 6,000 dollars for an individual, and 12,000 for a family.

Those "out-of-pocket" limits, aren't much different than insurance without Obamacare. When we are all forced to shell out to the insurance companies under Obamacare, the insurance companies will raise their rates even more. Now, since it has been revealed that limits won't be put on insurance companies the insurance companies will charge what they want.

We may as well forget about even calling it Obamacare because it is really a Republican/Insurance company scam. See how they are? They start off convincing many people that this is a good thing...while they are avoiding complete truthfulness about it..and then they slowly leak out the real truth about it.

They make it law, without being entirely truthful, get it deeply embedded in our psyche that this is what will be and that it will benefit us, and then they sneak bits of bad things toward the end when it gets "too big to fail". Many people are going to start to realize that the so-called fines for not participating will be a lot less than even the costs of the insurance premiums...even the cheapest ones where the deductibles and co-pays are the most expensive. Add the cost of the premiums and then the out-of-pocket expenses before the insurance kicks in and that is really pretty big money for a lot of people.

We need single payer healthcare, not some scam forced on us by the insurance companies and their lap-dog politicians. Even if we had an option of getting healthcare from a government healthcare program...one that would compete with the private insurance companies..it would give us an option and not strong-arm us into emptying our bank accounts into the criminal insurance companies pockets. Once this kicks in, there will not be just billionaire healthcare CEOs...they'll be raking in trillions.

I heard a hilarious comment made by a conservative talkshow host about how Obamacare and the left are determined to ruin charity based organizations which provide aid to those who can't afford insurance. Lord knows how much money would have to be donated for such a concept to have any effect in helping people, especially after someone who organizes one of such charites gets bit by a snake and has to blow most of the charity's funds on their own $50,000 ER bill. The great irony is how such person would be justified in doing so, in the name of health care charity. How different is it to pay taxes or to contribute to charity? I've got an idea, how about everybody just contribute a little to charity and then we're all be looked after! Oh, wait, perhaps that's not such an original concept after all. My step daughter asked me what inevitable meant last night. After a brief moment of considering how to convey this concept to her, I could only reply, "Well, I could give you many examples, but you're not going to like a single one of them." Maybe we should focus on things that both parties can agree upon, like death and taxes being inevitable. Maybe this timeless mantra has an even deeper meaning, like death and taxes being inseperable.

The Bell FINALLY Tolls for reforming Draco Federal Sentencing Guide Lines.

3 Cheers for F.A.M.M.!!!
(Families Against Mandatory Minimums) An organization that has been hard at work for the past 20+ years loddying Congress and informing everyday Americans about how harmfull such mandated sentences are to our society. Such Draco Laws do not allow a Judge to "judge" each case seperatley and apply appropreate sentences that fit the crime.

chuckle8: what?! Obama didn't pet his dog in 11 months? What kind of President wouldn't pet his dog for 11 months? We'd better notify PETA!

Palin -- the bank bailout was duing Bush's reign (Obama's naivety supported it; even the bank CEO's do not know what is happening) and Obama fired the CEO of GM.

I do not think Obama petted his dog during that 11 week period.

I think you are going to need on those laborers who were saved by the bailout of GM and Chrysler to support either a third party or massive rebellion. Also, you need to counter the Powell doctrine.