Tom, love the geeky science bit. About the obesity levels rising 48% here in the last 20 (?) years and your observation in Spain got me to thinking about the fat genes from pigs that are injected into our tomatoes and wondering if that has anything to do with the rise of obesity. It has always been a concern of mine ever since I first learned that to make tomatoes plumb and marketable, pigs genes are injected. Honestly, concerned was not my original reaction, appalled, outraged would be a better action word.
First, the cross-over of mating animals with plants thereby 'creating' another kingdom I like to call F'en kingdom and something Mother Nature went to get lengths over several billions years of evolution to absolutely prevent, is so so outrageous I am beside myself with even the idea of it. But here we are trying again to make sense out of nonsense.
The Fictitious Person, Corporations, have defied all the laws of nature by injecting this animal gene into a plant and manufacturing a GMO also referred to as Franken Foods and my F'en Kingdom reference.
As I am sure you are well aware of the science behind genes and how they grow and multiply to make plants and animals, do you not wonder now what the hell is that fat pig gene going to do in our bodies once it gets there via the tomato? The tomato didn't know what to do with it because the tomato did grow and get fatter from the pig gene. No guard cells or defense mechanisms developed yet in the tomato to handle this kind of invasion. But I am sure it is working on it.
Now that fat gene ingested into our gut via the tomato is doing what? I suspect it is still growing. I suspect that because our bodies have never in a 100 billion years had to deal with animal genes getting into our blood stream via the plants and animals we consumed, our body is very confused. Our bodies have evolved according to the Laws of Nature. We eat the final product of the gene multiplication process when we eat plants and animals. We are not eating live genes when we eat the broccoli or a pork chop. When we eat a GMO we are eating live genes from pigs, fish, frogs that have started the process of turning into that animal part.
It's a fat gene for god's sake and it is still doing its thing in our bodies which is divide and multiply until it becomes fat. Pork fat tissue.
Since corporate science has not bothered to follow through on this most grotesques experimentation with GMO's, my conclusion, based on Mother Nature's science, is that that fat gene is still doing its thing and making more fat genes in the human body. It will become fat. And the body in the mean time is going to be working on a way to destroy the invader. That could be problematic for us too. So, my thought is obesity is in part the result of pig fat genes being injected into our bodies via GMO's.
Does Spain have a ban on GMO's? They do not have an obesity problem like ours either. Interesting. Very interesting.
Will the country change when many schools banned the President's speech welcoming them back to school? Elementary and High Schools in his own home state told teachers they would not be showing the speech. We need more free speech and more FREEDOM. Censorship will always squash freedom.
Let's continue the discussion about 1. mandatory insurance, 2. subsidies for insurance companies, 3. no public option. Are we soon going to HELP the GREEDY health insurance industry and hurt ourselves?
Darth Vader aka D.C. comments about Iraqi oil. Stay on the topic. As has been pointed out Operation Iraqi Liberation aka O.I.L. may not have been a mistake in acronym. Dick has always been after energy. Pipeline in Afghanistan, etc. We need to hear more about this. Rachel and Keith may pick it up...then maybe if we're really good national media will mention it for two seconds during non prime time. Hey, we need some local radio station number bumper stickers to spread the word about the stations. Great show today!! Sanders for President!! Thom....Vice Pres.??
What are the chances of attaining meaningful changes in financial regulation or an "honest" chairman at the FED? Slim to none, I'd say. After reading Matt Taibbi's piece in ROLLING STONE http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/31234647/obamas_big_sellout/p... , I really am becoming more doubtful and disappointed in the Obama administration.
I'm not sure about President Obama, is he in on all of this B.S., or more likely, has a gun (or guns) held to his head by Wall Street and the multi-nationals?
One observation I had seen earlier this year occurred during a prime time press conference. The camera shot was from the Presidents left and on the opposite side of the room was Rohm Emanuel. I don't recall what was being said at the time, but Rohm's PDA goes off and as he reads the screen, Rohm turns beet red. Apparently, someone who was watching, didn't like what the President was saying???
There is a CANCER in our country/democracy, and it is getting out of control. It has been around a long time, coming and going, and it needs to be stopped....or we are TOAST!!!
Thom needs to have John Dean on his show and ask him what he thinks about trying to infiltrate and "turn" the Tea Party folks. I would be really curious what he thinks.
Thom's idea of infiltrating the Tea Party is again, in my opinion, not going to work. And if it is not going to work it is, by definition, a waste of resources and time.
The Tea Party folks think Republicans aren't conservative enough. The modern conservative movement has almost nothing to do with classic conservatism. The modern hardcore conservative is a submissive authoritarian follower (who do you think the 25% in polls are who approved of Bush until the bitter end?). The idea that you are going to "turn" them is not possible on a wide scale.
They have had it drilled into their brains for years that it is liberals fault why the country is in the state it is on any subject you can name: economics, politics, mores etc. They actually believe that large corporations are run elites and elites are by definition liberals. They hold contradictory ideas in their minds because they have been told by their leaders that they are true. You are better off going after those people who aren't so far gone.
I am going to try and go to a local tea party and check out his theory.
@Lee: And Prescott Bush was a treasonous, pro-Nazi fascist before he was a Senator . . .
Pappy (GHW) Bush being CIA is one thing . . . It was his involvement with whacking (Terminating, Killing, Assassinating) folk for and by the CIA that I consider the issue.
@THOM: Obama is not JUST a ‘centrist’ . . . Obama is and remains a mediocre, wishy-washy, just-right-of-the-center-of-the-road, PRO-CORPORATE centrist in a nation where the center lives on the right-hand margin.
Who will be our next Teddy Roosevelt? Let's start a SEARCH!!
This is for Zero. The link to the fruit from the tree of life did not work.
Tom, love the geeky science bit. About the obesity levels rising 48% here in the last 20 (?) years and your observation in Spain got me to thinking about the fat genes from pigs that are injected into our tomatoes and wondering if that has anything to do with the rise of obesity. It has always been a concern of mine ever since I first learned that to make tomatoes plumb and marketable, pigs genes are injected. Honestly, concerned was not my original reaction, appalled, outraged would be a better action word.
First, the cross-over of mating animals with plants thereby 'creating' another kingdom I like to call F'en kingdom and something Mother Nature went to get lengths over several billions years of evolution to absolutely prevent, is so so outrageous I am beside myself with even the idea of it. But here we are trying again to make sense out of nonsense.
The Fictitious Person, Corporations, have defied all the laws of nature by injecting this animal gene into a plant and manufacturing a GMO also referred to as Franken Foods and my F'en Kingdom reference.
As I am sure you are well aware of the science behind genes and how they grow and multiply to make plants and animals, do you not wonder now what the hell is that fat pig gene going to do in our bodies once it gets there via the tomato? The tomato didn't know what to do with it because the tomato did grow and get fatter from the pig gene. No guard cells or defense mechanisms developed yet in the tomato to handle this kind of invasion. But I am sure it is working on it.
Now that fat gene ingested into our gut via the tomato is doing what? I suspect it is still growing. I suspect that because our bodies have never in a 100 billion years had to deal with animal genes getting into our blood stream via the plants and animals we consumed, our body is very confused. Our bodies have evolved according to the Laws of Nature. We eat the final product of the gene multiplication process when we eat plants and animals. We are not eating live genes when we eat the broccoli or a pork chop. When we eat a GMO we are eating live genes from pigs, fish, frogs that have started the process of turning into that animal part.
It's a fat gene for god's sake and it is still doing its thing in our bodies which is divide and multiply until it becomes fat. Pork fat tissue.
Since corporate science has not bothered to follow through on this most grotesques experimentation with GMO's, my conclusion, based on Mother Nature's science, is that that fat gene is still doing its thing and making more fat genes in the human body. It will become fat. And the body in the mean time is going to be working on a way to destroy the invader. That could be problematic for us too. So, my thought is obesity is in part the result of pig fat genes being injected into our bodies via GMO's.
Does Spain have a ban on GMO's? They do not have an obesity problem like ours either. Interesting. Very interesting.
Zero G.,
I found a series of videos regarding Jay Weidner, Terence McKenna, timewave theory, etc. Here's the first, with links on the page to the others:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_RAqixqRAE
Will the country change when many schools banned the President's speech welcoming them back to school? Elementary and High Schools in his own home state told teachers they would not be showing the speech. We need more free speech and more FREEDOM. Censorship will always squash freedom.
Let's continue the discussion about 1. mandatory insurance, 2. subsidies for insurance companies, 3. no public option. Are we soon going to HELP the GREEDY health insurance industry and hurt ourselves?
Darth Vader aka D.C. comments about Iraqi oil. Stay on the topic. As has been pointed out Operation Iraqi Liberation aka O.I.L. may not have been a mistake in acronym. Dick has always been after energy. Pipeline in Afghanistan, etc. We need to hear more about this. Rachel and Keith may pick it up...then maybe if we're really good national media will mention it for two seconds during non prime time. Hey, we need some local radio station number bumper stickers to spread the word about the stations. Great show today!! Sanders for President!! Thom....Vice Pres.??
Just for Fun
Soupy Sales had a financial scheme figured out LONG before Goldman Sachs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-OGy3Kh7yM
What are the chances of attaining meaningful changes in financial regulation or an "honest" chairman at the FED? Slim to none, I'd say. After reading Matt Taibbi's piece in ROLLING STONE http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/31234647/obamas_big_sellout/p... , I really am becoming more doubtful and disappointed in the Obama administration.
I'm not sure about President Obama, is he in on all of this B.S., or more likely, has a gun (or guns) held to his head by Wall Street and the multi-nationals?
One observation I had seen earlier this year occurred during a prime time press conference. The camera shot was from the Presidents left and on the opposite side of the room was Rohm Emanuel. I don't recall what was being said at the time, but Rohm's PDA goes off and as he reads the screen, Rohm turns beet red. Apparently, someone who was watching, didn't like what the President was saying???
There is a CANCER in our country/democracy, and it is getting out of control. It has been around a long time, coming and going, and it needs to be stopped....or we are TOAST!!!
Richard L.,
No, they're not - they just don't see the inconsistency. Just as I'm not a liberal, but I don't trust their powers of discrimination.
Thom needs to have John Dean on his show and ask him what he thinks about trying to infiltrate and "turn" the Tea Party folks. I would be really curious what he thinks.
Thom's idea of infiltrating the Tea Party is again, in my opinion, not going to work. And if it is not going to work it is, by definition, a waste of resources and time.
The Tea Party folks think Republicans aren't conservative enough. The modern conservative movement has almost nothing to do with classic conservatism. The modern hardcore conservative is a submissive authoritarian follower (who do you think the 25% in polls are who approved of Bush until the bitter end?). The idea that you are going to "turn" them is not possible on a wide scale.
They have had it drilled into their brains for years that it is liberals fault why the country is in the state it is on any subject you can name: economics, politics, mores etc. They actually believe that large corporations are run elites and elites are by definition liberals. They hold contradictory ideas in their minds because they have been told by their leaders that they are true. You are better off going after those people who aren't so far gone.
I am going to try and go to a local tea party and check out his theory.
@ZeroG: Teabaggers are for birth control?
Congrats Tim!
Sign seen at recent teabag rally:
Never mind dogs and cats,
SPAY and NEUTER LIBERALS!
I'll keep my distance, thank you.
@THOM: Every time you talk about Chuck Grassley's favorite syrup . . . Your line feed from Clear Channel goes all wonky . . .
(Rich) Yep. "Grommets" are like washers. Round with a hole in the center.
My shoelace ends are frayed...there are holes in the soles of my shoes. But, at least I walk.
That's right . . . Grommets are the hole protectors. I am an ERF . . .
Grommets. The thingies at the end of shoelaces . . .
Shoelace ends are called "aglets".
@Lee: And Prescott Bush was a treasonous, pro-Nazi fascist before he was a Senator . . .
Pappy (GHW) Bush being CIA is one thing . . . It was his involvement with whacking (Terminating, Killing, Assassinating) folk for and by the CIA that I consider the issue.
May it be so, Margeret.
But... I hear Jim Morrison in my head from '68,
They got the guns but we got the numbers...
@THOM: Obama is not JUST a ‘centrist’ . . . Obama is and remains a mediocre, wishy-washy, just-right-of-the-center-of-the-road, PRO-CORPORATE centrist in a nation where the center lives on the right-hand margin.
Lee,
Sibel Edmunds has since testified under oath:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7374