Daily Topics - Tuesday - May 4th 2010
By louisehartmann
Hour One - Are native Americans being profiled by the Arizona Police?
Plus...Remembering Kent State - 40 years ago today
Plus...Justin Hughey www.capital.hawaii.gov/session2010 Will Hawaii be the first state to say Corporations are not people
Hour Two - Max Keiser www.maxkeiser.com Are conservatives right - is European socialism bleeding like stuffed PIGS? (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Spain?)
Hour Three - Tom Tancredo www.therockymountainfoundation.org Do the majority of Americans approve of racial profiling?
Plus...Dr. Riki Ott www.rikiott.com Is this a Gulf coast disaster or world wide and can we recover?
Comments
#2
If the Oil Spill and Flooding in Tennessee is an act of God, its interesting to note that now he seems to be going after more Con enriched territory. He also saved New York from a bombing attempt too. Perhaps God has decided to join the left (maybe he didn't get his Social Security and Welfare checks). Perhaps we can get Pat Robertson to comment on this? What do you think?
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#3
Yeah! God saved a bunch of gays! What's up with that?
#4
Thom, are you talking about Yugoslavia? Or are Slavs not considered White Europeans?
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#5
I think the neo cons would be having wet dreams imagining Hugo Chavez at the controls of the drones.
#6
@Meet John Doh! - OK - Thom's plan DOES have a hole in it regarding the undocumented folks who are already here - I get that. What are they to do, how do they get by once those who would give them illegal jobs are gone? Ummm - maybe they could go back home?
Thom runs his show VERY differently from most other hosts on the left. We all know how the FOX network and their stooges have created a right-wing echo chamber where the only guests who are allowed to voice opinions are those who hold the APPROVED opinion. Most left wing hosts adhere to the same kind of format, essentially creating a LEFT-wing echo chamber. Thom does not feel that helps advance the cause. The 3 words at the top of his home page are "News, Opinion, DEBATE". That last word, DEBATE, implies that a difference of opinion must exist. I'm aware that it drives a lot of people crazy that the majority of Thom's guests are from the Con side, but who the heck ELSE can he debate - someone who AGREES with him??
The "illegal employers", the folk who employ the undocumented workers (note my terminology - IMHO, there's no such thing as an illegal person) claim that Citizens simply will not do the jobs that the undocumented folks will, but these claims originated in a nation with 5% unemployment. Perhaps, now that unemployment is in the 15% neighborhood, we need to test that assertion again.
Let me make my feelings clear - Arizona's new law is INSANE, but it is an attempt to address a problem that is REAL. I've heard the argument that "the first thing these people do in the USA is break the law!" Yes, but what is their infraction? In most states, it's a Class D misdemeanor, classified similarly to such "major" crimes as vagrancy and loitering - i. e., a crime of poverty. Aside from that, they KNOW that they are here illegally, and thus try to keep a very low profile, so, as a rule, they DO NOT BREAK OTHER LAWS.
Arizonans say that they need a way to stop these people. I'm willing to take them at their word - I know what my state's economy looks like right now - their's can't be much better. They come for the jobs. Discouraging employers from offering such jobs would go a long way towards stemming this flow, and it seems to me the ONLY sane way to accomplish that end.
#7
#8
@ MAXROT: Which Sabbath . . . The one that comes from “I am your Lord, your God, who lead you out Egypt to be your god” OR the one that Christians snaked from the Babylonians?
#9
#69 from May 3, 2010, Maxrot, these are the people who do not like government until they need government.
The United States of Hell is not a nation but a cold, calculating killing machine.
@Posters, ther is a saying, "What goes around, comes around." Whitey's racism and racial profiling will come back to bite them on their behind. Whitey will always be in the power structure because they will find ways to eliminate non-whites from voting. We are NOT a democracy. We are an evil, vile, and wicked nation.
#10
@rladlof, when it comes to attending the Church of the Blessed Hooters, the Church of the Holy Orbs, etc.. you can never be too safe, attend on all Sabbaths that their may be. In fact if you can wing it, start by going on Thurs. night and stay through to Sunday evening. You may wish to attend a variety of these Churches, for variety is the spice of life and your soul may just need that.
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#11
@gerald, is there any nation on earth that you know of, that isn't a cold calculating killing machine? I can't think of any.
#12
We Die Alone
When John Paul II was Pope, he said that in death we die alone. We will be judged by our deeds. We will not be able to blame another person for our sins.
On a daily basis I have prayers that I say. Here are the prayers.
I will say an Act of Contrition.
I will also say a Prayer for a Spiritual Communion. This is a prayer that asks God to come into my heart in spirit because I cannot receive Him sacramentally in the Eucharist at Mass.
I will also pray the Holy Rosary.
I also give thought to the Devotion of the Drops of Blood Lost by our Lord, Jesus Christ, on His way to Calvary. This is a devotion that was given to St. Elizabeth, Queen of Hungary, St. Matilda, and St. Bridget by God and it was blessed by Pope Leo XIII on April 5, 1890. We are to pray two Our Fathers, two Hail Marys, and two Glory Bes for three consecutive years. From this devotion we will receive graces and our souls will not be damned to hell.
I will also pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy. This chaplet was given to St. Faustina by Jesus and blessed with Pope John Paul II’s approval. If the chaplet is prayed, even the most harden sinner can be saved. Jesus promised St. Faustina that He would stand between God, the Father, and the sinner asking God to forgive the sinner.
Yes, we do die alone but there are ways to prepare us for God’s final judgment.
#13
That's a good amount of time you spend talking to God gerald. How much time do you spend writing or calling your Senators, Congressmen and political party compatriots?
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#14
@Maxrot, you are absolutely right! But, we are the only nation on earth that is truly glorified in the killing of God's children. The killing of human beings by Americans is an addiction. The killing and slaughter of human beings offer Americans their daily high.
#15
@Maxrot, I call my house representive and my two senators. Actually, I have called Gary Peters more frequently than the other two senators. I have three patriotic Americans whom I can contact. Prior to Gary Peters, our district had a a goose-stepping Republican in Joe Knollenberg. He was a royal pain in the butt.
#16
War is a narcotic.
War is a narcotic. War gives certain people a high. The longer a war lasts the more power goes to the government.
We start hating through language and from language we start to want to kill people. War gives the addictive personality meaning. The state begins to define our being. The state must control us in order for us to kill. We cannot look at another person as part of humanity. Friends do not want war. You must, in war, want to kill and a person cannot be a friend to a person whom he is out to kill. People become intoxicated in war toward killing. You lose yourself and your identity as a human person in war.
If you oppose war, you court physical violence to yourself by the nationalists who desire and crave killing and war. You need moral courage to oppose war in America, a land that is overrun by nationalists who want killing and war.
Human beings do not want to kill other human beings. We had an opportunity to build friendships but we became racists.
The Republican Party possesses extremists who are doing great damage to our relations in the world. Once you become violent, you hang onto and remain violent because you cannot behave any other way. Violence comes back to haunt a country. Our violence to other countries will come back to haunt us. We do not have the right to control other people.
#17
@gerald, I disagree with that. Many other nations participate just as much as America does in killing, if not now then in the recent past, such as colonial wars through out the 18th, 19th, 20th centuries up to today. Many dictators, kill their own people, and they do so without the support of America. If you think America stands alone in its ability to spill blood today, then I suggest you start researching what's going on in China, Russia, etc...
America plays the roll of the world's policeman, and by the nature of police work, we practice police brutality to keep the other nations in line with our sense of priorities. If China were able to be in our place, they would act the same, if Russia were in the same position they would act the same, if Germany was in the same position, they would act the same, if Canada was in the same position, they would act the same, if France, England, Italy, Spain, Egypt, Somalia, Columbia, Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Ireland, Iceland, Norway, Finland, Switzerland, Sweden, Greece, Serbia, South Africa, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Sudan, Ethiopia, Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador.... was in the our place, they would act the same. Don't pretend that this is some sort of unique ailment that festers in America only. Your just being narrow visioned and dishonest with yourself when you do that. Second, not every American has bloodlust, c'mon, are you serious when you write that all Americans want to kill? Who do you think you're writing to on this blog? Cambodians? Take a step back and think about what you're writing, and try to look at it as if someone else is writing it to you as an American they hardly know.
You've already condemned America as a hellhole unable to change. If that's what you truly believe, where in this world is there hope for humanity? If every country that holds power can only abuse it? What of the activists that work hard make this country a better place? What of the activists in other countries that try to make their country a better place? What if they all just said, our country is a hellhole and there is no hope? Who wins then?
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#18
Kent State 40 years ago... let's not forget that the Guard back then was made up of "weekend warriors", and guess what, they were similar ages to the students. I had friends on both sides that day. It's questionable the ones holding weapons had the discipline to handle a couple thousand students moving towards them. The mistake was deploying armed guard onto the campus. What followed was merely escalation in the heat of the moment.
#19
I must also disagree with Gerald, on the simple basis of historical fact, regarding whether in a war, one can kill another who had previously been a friend.
In our Civil War, most of the officers on BOTH sides, went to West Point together. Many of themen who became the Northern brass had been quite friendly with those men went on to become Confederate officers. Once friends, later sworn enemies - politics makes life strange indeed.
#20
@Nels - Having no hope of his own, it appears that Gerald's defense mechanism is to try and make the rest of us as hopeless as he is.
But remember this - Just cuz that's all he's sellin', don't mean that you are obligated to buy it. ;-)
#21
@mstaggerlee, I'd say that gerald's point of view that America is acting reprehensibly is correct, to a point. I would even agree with a statement (if he so stated it this way) that there are a lot of Americans that are all to happy to see are weapons used to kill anyone who dares stand in our way. I would agree that the majority of our leadership is all to happy to take the money from our Industrial Military Complex and allow are Military too lax a hand in achieving questionable goals. I can agree with that. I can't however say all Americans are bloodthirsty and war addicts, it's just not that way at all. In fact I would say their is more of a sin of omission with a substantial portion of Americans, basically Americans that just don't pay attention and say nothing, or care nothing about it. It isn't that they desire cruelty, they just cross the street and ignore the mugger and victim (so to speak). I can even agree with that.
But there are a lot of Americans that do care, and struggle constantly to hold their government to account. I don't know if gerald agrees with that.
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#22
@mstaggerlee, I can't afford to buy it.
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#23
Geez'um almighty... its intimidating being on this blog sometimes. How many people here actually remember Kent State? I was born 5 months after it happened... y'all making me feel like a wet behind the ears newbie, like I'm walking amoungst the legendary hippies of lore. Vietnam, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, the Counter Culture wars are all things I've read about, I barely remember the Ford/Carter election.
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#24
@Nels - I had the privilege of casting my first official vote as an American citizen of legal age AGAINST Richard Nixon. :-)
#25
@mstaggerlee, prior to my enlightenment, I voted for the 1st Bush when I was able to make my first Presidential vote. I then voted for Perot, I sensed that neither Bush or Clinton were right, I doubt Perot was right either, but I sorta considered my vote as an anti establishment vote at the time. I don't remember who, or if I voted in the next election (I know I didn't vote for Dole, I may have already begun voting for whatever Green canidate was running). Then Nadar (living in CA I didn't worry much about how my state would go), Kerry, Obama. Other than the President, I vote for a Green wherever one runs now. I can't say I really had any idea what I was voting for when I voted for Bush, I was just ignorant and figured he was the most likely one to win. I have since developed my political awareness a wee bit.
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#26
@maxrot, I remember Kent State and Jackson State. I remember the administration trying to make the point that the kids who were killed were not real students, but hippie hangers-on. Agitators
#27
The Protest Psychosis is a podcast that I just heard that is appropriate to the era of protest highlighted by the Kent State massacre.
Synopsis:
Psychiatrist Jonathan Metzl treats people in the clinic whose lives are afflicted by severe psychosis. But he also documents an explosive 'other' history of schizophrenia, and what he sees as its transformation from a diagnosis of feminine docility or creative eccentricity, to one given to angry black men during the civil rights era. You'll never see medicine and the mind in quite the same light again.
#28
@maxrot & mstaggerlee
re gerald: Many people have talked to gerald about the way he posts. He's replied by saying 1) that he seeks to take people out of their comfort zones and 2) that it makes his day when he's pissed someone off.
He also said that he posts the links he posts to share information and some of the stories he links to are very good, but it seems that "shock value" is more important to him than sharing important informatioin to him. Several people have told him they are less likely to take his posts seriously or read them at all because of his outrageous over the top style, but he hasn't changed very much.
#29
@Fbacher, are you saying that the same person can be afflicted with both psychosis and schizophrenia?
#30
http://www.cnngo.com/tokyo/sleep/yoshidaryo-japans-most-famously-decrepit-dormitory-179885
Our son sent us some pictures of a dorm at Kyoto University in Japan.
#31
Maxrot, I know that other nations have terrible records in the killing of human beings. The United States of Hell was seeking an amendment to make Christianity our country's religion. We go around functioning above the law because we are supposedly a good, holy, and saintly people. There is no nation on earth that practices so much hypocrisy as the United States of Hell.
#32
@Meet John Doh, what I am trying to do is to emulate the goose-stepping Republicans. What the GOP is doing is spreading nonsense but their major objective is to condition the average American psyche into believing their nonsense. I believe that many of links are good reading. I must admit that I am trying to condition Americans to a FACT that the United States is not such a great country. Thom has shared his information on several European countries that are great and that Americans can something from these countries. Americans must become more discerning right from wrong. We can resolve many of our problems by listening to Thom Hartmann. Here is an example, prosecute employers for hiring illegal immigrants; regulate the banks ans the financial institutions; prosecute employers who are negligent in killing employees; subject heavy fines for negligence as well. These are some examples for resolving our problems. And, I even held back on my belief that religion is important in our lives and that we need to practice the Golden Rule.
Please listen carefully to Thom Hartmann!!!
#33
I did not include the word, learn. AMERICANS CAN LEARN SOMETHING FROM THESE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES.
#34
From what I understand, there are three ways to become a citizen of the United States.
1. Born in the United States of America or a Territory (Does not include Military Bases, does include Puerto Rico).
2. Born abroad of US Citizens
3. Naturalization.
The only one that qualifies someone to be President is the first one. If you give birth to a child in Canada, they have all rights of citizenship except that they cannot become President. Congress requires your citizenship to have been at least a specified time before being elected, but Naturalized citizens can be Senators, but not President.
The reason John McCain did qualify to be President is because when he was born there, the Canal Zone was considered a US Territory. It has nothing to do with the military base there. From work I did for the government, I know that when he was born there, it was considered being born in the United States.
#35
John McCain was not born in the canal zone. He was born in the civilian hospital in the city of Colon outside of the canal zone.
Congress actually passed a resolution (sponsored by Obama and Hillary Clinton) that said he was eligible to run for president because he was a "natural born" citizen born in the canal zone, but they were factually in error on that last point.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:McCain_Certificate_of_Birth.jpg
However "2. Born abroad of US Citizens" I believe does satisfy the eligility rules so long as he resided in the US later.
#36
Here you go guys... :)
REQUESTING CONGRESS TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION
OF THE UNITED STATES TO PERMIT CONGRESS AND THE STATES TO
REGULATE THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS BY CORPORATIONS ENGAGING
IN POLITICAL SPEECH.
1 WHEREAS, free speech is a right exclusive to natural
2 persons, recognized and protected by the First Amendment of the
3 Constitution of the United States (U.S.); and
4
5 WHEREAS, corporations are not natural persons, but rather
6 legal entities granted conditional rights by society through the
7 legislative deliberations of Congress and the States; and
8
9 WHEREAS, the legislature of the State of Hawaii has grave
10 concerns regarding the implications of the Supreme Court of the
11 U.S. I decision in its five to four ruling in Citizens United v.
12 Federal Elections Commission; and
13 ;
14 WHEREAS, this decision threatens to invalidate the
15 legislative deliberations of Congress and the States to restrict
16 the influence of corporate power on the political system; and
17
18 WHEREAS, the opinion of the four dissenting justices noted
19 that corporations have certain privileges not enjoyed by natural
20 persons, such as limited liability, perpetual life, and
21 favorable treatment of their accumulation and distribution of
22 assets, which financially enables them to overwhelm individual,
23 natural persons in the political process; and
24
25 WHEREAS, a ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court cannot be
26 overturned by legislation; now, therefore,
27
28 BE IT RESOLVED by the House of Representatives of the
29 Twenty-fifth Legislature of the State of Hawaii, the Senate
30 concurring, that the Legislature respectfully requests that the
31 U.S. Congress propose and send to the states for ratification a
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1 constitutional amendment to clarify the distinction between the
2 rights of natural persons and the rights of corporations,
3 thereby preserving the power of Congress and the States to place
4 limits on the ability of corporations to influence the outcome
5 of elections through political expenditures; and
6
7 BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that certifies copies of this
8 Concurrent Resolution be transmitted to the President and Vice
9 President of the United States, to the Speaker of the United
10 States House of Representatives, and to Hawaii's Congressional
11 Delegation.
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Justin Hughey
#37
Thom: re torn rotater cuff. I consulted drs then consulted some real experts: fellow handball players. They told me to either get the operation OR get some surgical cord (rubber tubing) and start stretching with it, gently at first, but regularly.
It takes about a year to do it yourself. The surgery beginning-to-end is about half that time. The discomfort is about the same. I did the exercising w/tubing and it's been fine for about 10 years.
Of course, I had to give up my dream of winning the shotput in the Summer Olympics, but it worked well otherwise. Good luck.
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