Daily Topics - Tuesday - May 4th 2010

Hour One - Are native Americans being profiled by the Arizona Police?

Plus...Remembering Kent State - 40 years ago today

Plus...Justin Hughey www.capital.hawaii.gov/session2010 Will Hawaii be the first state to say Corporations are not people

Hour Two - Max Keiser www.maxkeiser.com  Are conservatives right - is European socialism bleeding like stuffed PIGS? (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Spain?)

Hour Three - Tom Tancredo www.therockymountainfoundation.org  Do the majority of Americans approve of racial profiling?

Plus...Dr. Riki Ott www.rikiott.com  Is this a Gulf coast disaster or world wide and can we recover?

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Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#1

Fasinating Google Search feature I didn't know existed. Do you want to see what people anywhere are saying about any topic?

Go to the Google home page, type in your topic in the search box, then at just below the search box there is a caption WEB +Show Options. Click on the + sign there. On the left side in the second group click on latest. Your search engine starts updating with information about topic as the info comes into Google. Lots of twitter comments from average citizens. Gives an interesting take on what people are saying. Also different sites that are writing on a topic will appear.

Found this while checking into BP oil spill... becoming quickly addicted. Thought I'd share this discovery with all here.

Keep the search topic short if you want to see more links. "Less is more" - Mies van der Rohe

Nice time lapse map of Oil spill from NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/01/us/20100501-oil-spill-trac...

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Gene Savory's picture
Gene Savory 9 years 41 weeks ago
#2

My friend, Dave, was interviewed at a "safety" checkpoint in Aurora, Illinois. The officer asked, "where are you coming from?"

Dave answered by pointing his thumb backward and said, "that way."

Next, the officer asked Dave where he was going.

Dave answered by pointing his index finger forward and said, "that way."

The officer said, "seriously."

Dave said, "I am serious."

In some places he could be arrested for "contempt of cop." In this case, he was waved on.

DRichards's picture
DRichards 9 years 41 weeks ago
#3

Goldman Sachs Reveals it Shorted Gulf of Mexico

In what is looming as another public relations predicament for Goldman Sachs, the banking giant admitted today that it made "a substantial financial bet against the Gulf of Mexico" one day before the sinking of an oil rig in that body of water.

"One oil rig goes down and we're going to be rolling in dough," Mr. Tourre wrote in one email. "Suck it, fishies and birdies!"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/goldman-sachs-reveals-it_b_558774.html

DRichards's picture
DRichards 9 years 41 weeks ago
#4

Re: Goldman Sachs Reveals it Shorted Gulg

I assume this article is a spoof :)

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#5

@Gene, I'm guessing that the cop was reluctant to write an arrest report over it, can't imagine that he wouldn't have been allowed to arrest your friend for the attitude.

Reminds me of a time a buddy of mine and I were drinking a 12 pack of beer at night on a local beach. A police officer approached us and told us to pour the beer we were drinking out. So I did... right down my throat, not out of any act of rebellousness or smart assness, in fact I wasn't really thinking at all (as I said, 12 pack), it was just sorta' an instinct reaction. The police officer, much to my buddy's awe, did nothing and saw us on our way. He still tells the story as though I was some sort of super human smart ass that the cop just couldn't fathom and didn't know what to do with. My guess is he didn't really want to bother, thought it rather funny himself, and wasn't worth the report.

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Gene Savory's picture
Gene Savory 9 years 41 weeks ago
#6

My friend Brian put a "Remember Kent State" sticker on the back of his motorcycle. I hope he still does, and I hope my friends, whatever age, will notice or remember.

Gene Savory's picture
Gene Savory 9 years 41 weeks ago
#7

@Maxrot: Interesting. I think cops put up with a lot of shit, and just didn't want to defend an action against a middle class white guy. The "safety" checkpoints are about profiling. In DeKalb, IL, the State Police set up a couple of checks last year at the I-88 exit to DeKalb. The first occured during NIU's Move In day. Traffic was stopped for about half a mile onto the interstate (real safe, huh?) and the second occurred prior to a Ludicris show. A friend (NIU police) pointed out that the cops didn't bother to stop anybody for a Brooks & Dunn show, but it seemed obvious that the crowd showing up for Ludicris was going to be a bunch of rabble. Rabble = blacks.

Blue Mark's picture
Blue Mark 9 years 41 weeks ago
#8

I was in 3rd grade in Kent, OH on May 4, 1970 at Wall Elementary school. We were in school that day, but I remember we had our recesses in the hallways that day because the National Guard was using our playground as their local base. It was kind of exciting to us, we didn't feel any sense of the menace that was to come. Hard to conceive today of having armed troops quartered at a school full of small children.

We didn't return to school the next day. Kent was put under marshall law with all activities and meetings cancelled, and a prohibition of any grouping of over 3 people was imposed. I've since read accounts of the events that claim that marshall law was not declared, but that is not the experience of the residents of Kent who definitely had their freedom of assembly revoked.

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#9

"Marshall Law" :D Marshall Law was a great sheriff!

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#10

I once wrote to NPR complaining that they need to stop letting people under 40 years of age from writing stories, 'cause most of them know nothing about spelling or grammar,and their using "spell check" can produce hilarious results.

Zero G's picture
Zero G 9 years 41 weeks ago
#11

Sorry Thom is expecting people to cut Obama some slack today. Obama has done next to little to change US foreign policy, which is leading to increased terrorism. I do not support terrorism or attacks in NYC. Neither do I support US state terrorism in the form of drone attacks in Pakistan. Obama made jokes about predator drones against the Jonas Bros. should they have eyes on his daughters. This isn't funny, this evidences the ease with which we make light of the use of force.

Remember Kent State. Remember also Augusta Ga, May 9, 1970 where black students were also gunned down, it gets much less attention.

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#12

hmmm. 'scuze the previous entry, I didn't proofread it good. :D

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#13

@Zero G. yeah, it bugs me that nobody remembers Jackson State 2 killed.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#14

@Gene, maybe that's the reason, but on the other hand, my buddy is Mexican so I doubt he was avoiding arresting us based on our race, but perhaps. As far as I can remember, it was already illegal to drink alcohol on our local beaches at that time (I know for sure it is now, I think I was underage too). Being that I went through private school, I knew peers that wanted to be police officers, in fact another buddy of mine was on that track. All I'm saying is I'm quite aware, that most police officers are pretty much the same as all the rest of us. Some can be incredible assholes, and let their position go to their head, others are reasonable and just want things to go smoothly. You never know which type is walking up to you, so if you're going to be mouthy, you're gambling while lowering your odds to wIn.

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Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#15

@Zero G., but it was the Jonas Bros. he was threatening with death from above... I can kinda' back that, he can also threaten any Oil, Health Care or Wall St. exec too.

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Gene Savory's picture
Gene Savory 9 years 41 weeks ago
#16

@Maxrot: Some jobs (many that require uniforms) attract people who believe they can control society and prevent what they think is illegal or immoral.

Blue Mark's picture
Blue Mark 9 years 41 weeks ago
#17

@Harry ""Marshall Law" :D Marshall Law was a great sheriff!"

Aha! That 'splains it! The revisionists were right, there was no "Marshall" Law, only martial law.

And deputy Law too I bet!

Foodfascist's picture
Foodfascist 9 years 41 weeks ago
#18

Sorry for this post, was having problems with Comcast pulling up the justin hawaii link....hmm.. I got around it.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#19

@Gene, that's true, and some people are attracted to those job because family members are part of the organization, or because close friends were joining and it seemed reasonable, or because some people think they can actually do good by serving (sorta in the vein of your last point, but more as in doing good by helping not dictating).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be a cop apologist, I'm just saying not every pig is a worthless piece of crap pretending to be God. Its just the majority.

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harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#20

@Blue mark: ...Blue Mark Blogs Boffo Brainstorm; Brother Bloggers Balance Bluster and Brilliance.

Foodfascist's picture
Foodfascist 9 years 41 weeks ago
#21

DANG! I have too much going on today and this link is still frustrating me. Can someone figure out the exact link and post it here? http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2010/

I can get to the page using google, but not my comcast. I want the actual resolution.

rladlof's picture
rladlof 9 years 41 weeks ago
#22

What our good friends in the GW Bush administration actually did to the great nation of America:

Trauma-induced changes to genes may lead to PTSD . . . http://www.physorg.com/news192192008.html

GRRRRR . . .

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#24

@foodfascist: good on you. I take it from your expletive 'Dang"! that you're a Gary Larson fan?

"Man Minus Ear Waives Hearing" - headline from leftwingwacko.com

Gene Savory's picture
Gene Savory 9 years 41 weeks ago
#25

"Voluntary Regulation" is an oxymoron. Even seven-year-olds can see that.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#26

BP could have paid $500K for a safety device and capped the oil that is spilling out.

They have lost a drilling platform, 11 men, millions of gallons of oil, and public opinion is completely against them.

They wanted to save $500K (not even a drop in the bucket of their profits) and have lost millions (more if they actually are successfully fined, though I'm not holding my breath). Priceless. :-)

Unfortunantly the Gulf Coast is the Punchline :-(

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Gene Savory's picture
Gene Savory 9 years 41 weeks ago
#27

An irony exists: Oil extracted from US fields does not go to the US; it's sold on the open market.

DRichards's picture
DRichards 9 years 41 weeks ago
#28
Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#29

Hey, more strip clubs then churches? That gives me an idea... The Church of the Blessed Hooters. Heck Gerald, there is hope for me yet, I think I have stumbled upon the one Church I may wish to visit on a very regular basis... and give, give, give. ;-) Hallelujah, Praise and Give Thanks... to Jiggles and Monique now at the Altar.

After all what is a Cross, but a pole with a cross brace ;-)

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Gene Savory's picture
Gene Savory 9 years 41 weeks ago
#30

The real crime about industrial energy corporations is that the people injured or killed are reduced to a statistical cost of business, except to their families and anybody who has a sense of empathy.

Such a deal, sadly.

newtrev's picture
newtrev 9 years 41 weeks ago
#31

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), has called the idea of reading Faisal Shahzad (an American Citizen) Miranda rights a "serious mistake."

Even if the bomb had gone off as planned, Faisal Shahzad would have done less damage to New York than Goldman Sachs did...

who is the real terrorist here???

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#32

@Maxrot: how about "Church of the Holy Orbs"? Instead of communion wafers they use nipples.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#33

@newtrev, yeah lets not read an American citizen his rights, because then his lawyer will have another legit issue to hold up prosecution of his defendant. As if this guy doesn't realize he can just say nothing and stonewall. McCain has lost all touch with reason and reality, must be driving him crazy that he's probably not even going to win his own Senate seat back this year. He doesn't even realize he has the right to remain silent too!

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Blue Mark's picture
Blue Mark 9 years 41 weeks ago
#34

"Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), has called the idea of reading Faisal Shahzad Miranda rights a "serious mistake."

The thing about Miranda Rights is that they are there to protect the innocent who are wrongly accused, not the guilty. Fortunately McCain knows with certainty that this guy is guilty, so no further investigation or legal proceedings are needed - because we all know the only thing McCain has ever been wrong about is whether or not he is a maverick.

Gene Savory's picture
Gene Savory 9 years 41 weeks ago
#35

Robert F. Kennedy pointed out that the police in the USA try to arrest a suspect without blowing up a whole block.

Can you figure out why people in the world hate us for sending them cruise missiles and Hellfire missiles to kill (extrajudicially) people who might be criminals?

The Russians built roads, schools and other infrastructure in Afghanistan, but they had to be killed and expelled because they were occupiers.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#36

KTLK just had an advertiser talking about buying Real Estate. There has never been a better time than now to buy Real Estate, besides no one knows where the bottom of the housing market is. Someone needs to alert this organization that advertising during Thoms' Show is really swimming against the current, where most listeners are aware that the economy is still severly unstable.

Can't believe how low Real Estate sales organizations will sink to, to make a buck.

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Reed.Young's picture
Reed.Young 9 years 41 weeks ago
#37

No ex post facto law problem with $10 Billion liability, nor will BP be exempt from the higher limit, because it deals with liability damages, not punitive damages which is all that the $75 Million limitation covers, or at least that is the legal opinion Menendez expressed on the Rachel Maddow Show yesterday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/36927939#36927939

I'm not a lawyer, but until I hear Papantonio comment on whether Menendez's distinction isa relevant one, I'm considering the question of BP's maximum "exposure" open.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#38

@harry, AMEN brother, AMEN. The Church of Milk and Honey will be opening down the street from the Church of the Holy Orbs. I expect you'll be attending Sister Candices' Dance of Adoration on Sunday, it'll be a moving experience. ;-)

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Foodfascist's picture
Foodfascist 9 years 41 weeks ago
#39

ME gusta Gary Larson!

Okay here is the Tweet and we should get on all social networking and begin providing the link to the Hawaii Resolution. We should get people to print it out and fax it in actually. Letters have to go through Homeland Security and can take over a month to get to the reps office.

FoodFascist @thom_hartmann Unequal Protection Revolt Faxathon! http://bit.ly/aQyMN4 @alancolmes @halsparks @wegoted @normangoldman @whitehouse @presssec

Reed.Young's picture
Reed.Young 9 years 41 weeks ago
#40

The "protective father" is such a universally known cliché, I suspect that even the Jonas Brothers got the joke, and thought it was just dorky, not threatening.

mstaggerlee's picture
mstaggerlee 9 years 41 weeks ago
#41

@Nels & Harry - Now THAT's a kind of worship a guy can really sink his teeth into ...

Gently, though. :D :D :D :D

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#42

As Tancredo says there are all sort of references to the other races and culture in the study of Western Civilization, and I agree, they're referenced as the people that were conquered and enslaved.

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harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#43

@mstaggerlee and maxrot: I think it was George Carlin who talked about the new party snack, nipples!. 'Hey! ....these are..responding!!!"

@Maxrot: Keep me abreast!

rladlof's picture
rladlof 9 years 41 weeks ago
#44

Tancredo appears to be insane or an idiot or both . . . Three words:

TEXAS SCHOOL BOARD.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#45

Actually I learned about Spotty Lincoln at my public Jr College. So called because he wanted to see the spot on the map where American blood was spilled on American soil, in reference to US troops that were killed when they entered disputed territory between Mexico and Texas (as ordered), to incite an incident. Lincoln wanted the spot pointed out, because it would show that the troops were in the disputed area and were being provacative. Maybe my professor was just more thorough than others. It was a standard American History class, met required gen ed units.

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harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#46

I think Tancredo was Texas School Water-Boarded.

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Meet John Doh 9 years 41 weeks ago
#47

Deportees special version

I think it was last Thursday (may have been Wednesday) late in the show that a caller reminded Thom and listeners about the history of U.S. interventions in Mexico and "Latin America". He also brought up the fact that the U.S. has been dumping its agricultural and industrial products in those countries thereby undermining the economies of those countries (including their farmers and small business people). The caller ended by saying that the people coming to this country are human beings.

Thom responded by saying that he knows they're human beings; that's why he's calling for arresting the employers, not the workers here illegal, totally missing the point. What will happen to the immigrants who left their homes, families, culture etc in the depsperate hope that they could eek out a living here and send money to their families back home? Where is the humanity in this position? Maybe it doesn't matter if you are an "America Firster" like Thom proclaimed he is to Pat Buchanan on the Thom Hartmann Show.

In 1928, Woody Guthrie read a newspaper account of a plane crash in Los Gatos Canyon in California. Guthrie was struck by the fact that news reports only named the members of the flight crew and the security guard on the plane, but not the 28 migrant workers who died on the plane as they were being deported from the United States. They were only referred to as "deportees".

There are many version of the song on YouTube and I've selected a version by Joseph Cormier for you to listen to because it's one of the shorter versions and his voice is somewhat like mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjrfyyneaig&feature=related

I've been listening to The Thom Hartmann Show since the day Thom took over the slot vacated by Al Franken. In all that time, Thom has taken the position that

We don't have an illegal immigrant problem; we have an illegal employer problem. Put a few illegal employers in prison and the problem will go away (and so will the illegal immigrants).

In honor of Thom's compassionate proservatism, I've taken the liberty of rewriting the chorus of the song. I was inspired to do this my observation that: While Thom was heading back from the Talkers Magazine event in New York on the weekend of March 19 - 21, there was a rally for immigration reform in Washington, DC,. News reports varied from tens of thousands of attendies to two hundred thousand attendies. Thom has talked about how major progressive rallies get little coverage, but when it came to this rally, there wasn't a peep from Thom. This past weekend, there were May Day rallies aroud the country. These rallies put the call for immigration reform at the top of their agendas. Again, not a mumble from Thom. And in the years that I've been listening to Thom, I can't think of a single Latino who Thom has talked to about the topic, although Latinos play a central role in issue. He has, however, spoken with numerous right wing swine like Pat Buchanan & his sister Bay, Tom Tancredo, Roger Hedgecock, etc.

Here's my updated version of Deportees (inspired by Thom Hartmann). If this blog would allow the post of media files, I would have recorded my version and posted it here.

Deportees

Good-bye to my Juan, good-bye Rosalita

Adios mis amigos Jesus y Maria

You won't have a name when you ride the big airplane

And all they will call you will be deportees

Good-bye to my Juan...

(Spoken) Little Juanito, he's nine years old. He always wanted to be a pilot when he grew up. But one day he heard a man on the radio, talking about EVERYTHING, and he said "that's what I want to do when I'm big"

(Sing) Good-bye to my Juan, good-bye Rosalita

(Spoken) Rosalita, she's eleven; gets straight A's in school and loves to learn about the planets and stars, galaxies and black holes. She wants to be an astronomer.

(Sing) Good-bye Rosalita, Thom Hartmann says we had a war and we beat ya. There isn't a place for you here in OUR country, and all the will call you will be deportees

(Spoken) and they call themselves progressive


Blue Mark's picture
Blue Mark 9 years 41 weeks ago
#48

So Tancredo, what does it hurt to offer an elective course on the history of specific people throughout the world? What's the harm?

harry ashburn 9 years 41 weeks ago
#49

I was lucky to have Mobil Oil Co.'s "Texas History Movies" books when I was a kid. They were little cartoon books portraying Texas history. Im guessing they were distributed in the '50's. They showed Mexicans in the most stereotypical memes, including shouts of "Caramba!". i'm sure theyre worth a fortune today., they were passed on to my younger cousins in the '50's. The stereotypes were so extreme (including "darkies") that even at that young age I recognized them as satire. Despite the slant, I still learned a LOT about Texas history, and wish I still had those books.

Maxrot's picture
Maxrot 9 years 41 weeks ago
#50

@harry and mstaggerlee, just remember keep holy the sabbath. Going to Church once a week is nice, but there's nothing stopping you from attending more often. I may aquiese to attending daily, and pehaps for hours at a time. I look forward to the laying of the hands ceremony, as well as the lap dance confessional ("ohhhh I'm a sinner Sister Katlyn, excise the demons from me... a bit more to left please").

Definitely the Sisters will be unmarried (vows of chasity though....)

LOL

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