Deathers are Demanding the Long-Form Corpse
By louisehartmann
The White House has released some new details about Bin Laden’s death. He was reportedly unarmed when SEALs raided the compound and shot and killed him. Initial reports that he used his wife as a human shield are untrue. On the decision to kill Bin Laden instead of take him alive - White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said, “There was concern that bin Laden would oppose the capture operation and indeed he resisted.” After the body was thoroughly identified – it was taken out to the North Arabian Sea – placed in a white sheet and weighted bag – and slid into the waters as religious remarks were read.
CIA Director Leon Panetta announced yesterday that it's likely that the photos of Bin Laden – which have been described as “gruesome” - will be released for the public to see, although there's a debate in the White House being led by Hillary Clinton that release of the photos is unnecessary and could further inflame religious extremists in the Middle East.
And, she notes, the deathers will likely be unsatisfied with pictures anyway – they’re demanding the long-form corpse.
See my interview with Alex Jones (What's Alex Jones Smoking - Bin Laden Rescue a Fake?!) Check it out - HERE
Comments
#2
Talk about a balancing act that should go viral....this guy was absolutely astonishing....
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=jJrzIdDUfT4&vq=medium
#3
I believe that I have shared with you a video from Dr. Mercola’s website where a deer and a mother goose have bonded so the mother goose can have babies live until they can fly away. If a deer and a goose can bond, why can’t Americans bond with love, mercy and forgiveness? Why do Americans need to be embedded with war and the killing of God’s children?
#4
@Palindromedary,
Some of my comments do have a seriousness of purpose; some of my comments are an attempt to shock the readers; and some of my comments are revealing my dry sense of humor.
#5
It would be in dreadfully poor taste to show the deathshots. Children will see it. We ought to be ashamed that Skull and Bones sorcerors have done this, they and their Geronimos.
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#6
@dnarnadem, dialogue is a wonderful way to communicate. Yes, I have ranted on many occasions about American politicians being Satan's disciples. Not once during my rantings have I wanted these disciples damned in hell for eternity. In fact on a daily basis I pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy for my family, me, and for anyone who is in need of this Chaplet. Jesus promised to stand with the most hardened sinner before God, the Father, asking for mercy on the sinner. Love is wanting and wishing the best for another person or persons. If the American devils revealed to fellow Americans Sacramental Moments, I am ready to forgive Satan's disciples. I cannot praise persons who are anit-poor and anti-working class.
Sacramental Moments
As a Catholic I am familiar with the Seven Sacraments. At seventy plus years of age the priest’s homily for Christmas Mass was on Sacramental Moments. This was the first time that I heard of Sacramental Moments.
Sacramental Moments are all around us. These moments occur daily. Sacramental Moments are the good deeds we do to help make our world a better place. Each of us has various kinds of Sacramental Moments. Here are some examples, such as caring for and helping the poor, working for justice and peace, and speaking out against wrong and immoral wars. These are a few examples. Other persons may have their ideas as what constitutes Sacramental Moments.
Striving to make Medicare for Every One a reality is a Sacramental Moment.
Joining the International Criminal Court at The Hague, Netherlands to investigate and prosecute crimes against humanity, war crimes, mass murders in wrong and immoral wars, and torture of human beings is another Sacramental Moment.
Working to stop irresponsible corporations from exploiting human workers is a Sacramental Moment.
We have Sacramental Moments all around us. We should always work to increase Sacramental Moments in our daily lives to help make our world a better place for our environment and for animal and human life.
#7
Why Didn't We Capture the Terrorist Kingpin and Interrogate Him?
I'm as happy as the next red-blooded American that Bin Laden is dead.
For more than a decade, the government has said that Bin Laden is the world's worst terrorist, a terrorist kingpin, the head of the worst terrorist group in the world.
But if we captured and interrogated him, he could have spilled a lot of beans which would help prevent future terrorist attacks.
Right?
#8
Saddam Hussein was not decapitated in his hanging. That was a guy named al-Tikriti.
#9
This Bin Laden news while good is old news and I fear that it is overshadowing the recent Cdn. election.It was supposed to be an election about nothing-a Seinfeld election, but it was anything but status quo.The Liberals (in name only) considered the national governing party, had their worst loss since their formation in 1837.The NDP, who have formed many provincial govts, had their best result since their formation in 1932.They became the official opposition.Mind you the NDP have strayed far from their roots when they were the CCF and their stated goal in the 1932 Regina Manifesto was the elimination of any and all forms of Kaputalism.It is a victory nonetheless for a party that is exponentially less well funded.Change can happen but it may take a century.Change has come to Canada-finally, en fin, por fin.
#10
Thom, you ask if any evidence will be forthcoming. I believe it will. If OBL were still alive, he would pop up quicker than a whack-a-mole in a new video saying "Neeners! Ya Missed Me!". The longer he goes without doing so, the deader he'll be. That's all the proof I'll ever need.
#11
I do not believe the US would lie about something like this. If he were not dead, he would just tell everyone so. However, killng Bin Laden when he was unarmed and hooked to a dialysis machine isn't proof of anything except we can catch old people without guns. Killing him certainly isn't proof the war is "working." War doesn't "work," it creates more terrorists. Just look at the biggest group of terrorist recruits today--teenage boys. These teenagers were children when we started these wars. These wars are simply ensuring there is a constant enemy. Enough war. Enough killing. We need to stop this war-mongering, corporate, cash machine on the backs of human beings.
#12
DRichards: "Why Didn't We Capture the Terrorist Kingpin and Interrogate Him?"
Very good question! I suspect that, if this really was OBL, it was planned just the way it went down. To kill him so that he cannot talk....disfigure him so that they could use the excuse that we don't show gruesome pictures to the pampered public (so the fake pictures or fake OBL cannot be scrutinized by millions of people...some of which are experts an photo anlysis)...and get rid of the evidence so no one could ever prove that this OBL was a fake. The government is, yet again, expecting us to believe them.
Right!! One other thing is the government knows what a short attention span people have...which is why they can get away with mass robbery and mass murder. And if they had kept him alive he would been the source of constant attention for many, many years. Constant exposure would eventually work to impress some that he was not a monster...or that he really was working for our intelligence agencies that made patsies out of the 19 hijackers and created the 911 false flag operation.
I noticed a couple of things in today's (5/5/2011) TH show I hear Thom saying that we need to "just move on" in reference to the alleged killing of OBL and in particular the photos being made public an issue. Now isn't that a familiar phrase..."just move on" used by Obama in relation to going after Bush, the war criminal, and his insidious neocon/neoliberal regime. And it was an over used phrase used by the criminal neocon/neoliberals during the Bush regime as well.
What? The photos would "put our troops at risk"? Excuuuuuusee meeee! What kind of non-sense is that? Our troops are already at risk just because they are over there killing people. Doesn't that phrase "put our troops at risk" make them out to me chicken-sh!t namby-pambies who don't have the ability to defend themselves? Doesn't this insult our brave troops who are armed to the teeth with the latest high tech weapons? Our government puts our troops at risk! Our politicians puts our troops at risk! Our MIC corporations puts our troops at risk! The people of the US who wave their stupid little flags in disgusting fawning adoration of murdering people in a jingoist false sense of "we are the law, we are right, we are saints" (we want your oil) delusion.
I thought it quite funny and cathartic upon hearing that some idiot on a subway failed in his attempt to rally the people on board with "USA...USA...USA". They just ignored the a$$hole.
So Hillary is in Italy trying to free up Khadafi's money to return to the Libians. Too bad they can't go after their own Khadafis right here at home...like those 20 some Wall Street ponzi schemers who made $2billion each last year. Too bad they don't go after the banksters and all the rest who also ripped off Americans. But in America when you steal from the people on a grand enough scale you get away with it and get a favorable tax rate (which none ever pay anyway). I guess we should "just move on". Nothing to see behind the curtain over there. They got Madoff but that ponzi scheme was just the tip of the iceberg.
And a quote from Hillary on torture, years ago when campaigning I believe, something about how the British used torture and G.Washington made some kind of declaration about how torture should never be used because it doesn't work and that it could be used as a precedence for other countries to use it on us....or something like that. And contrast that to the administration she's part of now that has reneged on their attitude on torture.
Funny, also, how hollow G.Washington's words rang during later conflicts or wars the US was part of, or created...like when the US soldiers were using young Filipino boys as target practice on a bridge in the Philipines during the Filipino/American war. And when McArthur used torture to find out where all the gold was buried from Operation Golden Lily. I shouldn't say all...because Marcos got a lot more of it later....and there is still a lot of undiscovered gold buried deep in booby-trapped mines in the Philipines even today. Sterling and Peggy Seagraves book "Operation Golden Lily".
#13
If Obama want's to provide SOME evidence that they actually got Bin Laden, he can turn over some of that DNA to objective 3rd parties. Any 'rational' person should 'believe' the published results of two or three independent DNA testing laboratories. Then, we, the people, don't need to just take his word for it, as he's asking.
Given the covert government's past record of False Flag operations, secret experiments on the U.S. population, assassinations, and a steady diet of lies upon lies on a broad range of subjects, it's not unreasonable to ask for some proof.
#14
the deathers label is kinda childish....we all know who it is. Republican rightwing BS machine. Keep up the good work my fellow posters.
#15
Alex Jones.
His flaw is his devotion to his theory.
Theory is only an ace when Jokers are still wild . It's one thing, and a good thing, to question in seeking the truth. It is another to question truth to save face by devoutly defending his discredited theory.
#16
The Twain ReportAll The News That Mark Twain Says He Would Report If He Was Alive TodayDateline SundayAl Queda second-in-command Mustaffa Ibn Bniferus today responded to Osama Bin Laden's murder by American Navy Seals, calling American President Barak Obama and saying, "Geez, you guys sure play hardball: we've had it, we give up. You won't have any more trouble from any Muslims from now until the end of time. We had no idea you would actually kill someone in your efforts to get back at us. I mean, sure, we expected you to lob water balloons at us from Humvees or something, but this is just world-class horrific. I mean, it's the first time anyone I know has ever died. All I ask is that you not release the death photos of Osama because I have a weak stomach and I don't want to upchuck my goat-skin stew in front of my wives and children."Obama said, "Ok then. Just remember, you made me do it. I didn't want to do it, but you made me do it."Obama immediately ordered all troops recalled from Afghanistan, Iraq, and everywhere else in the Middle East. Then he burst into laughter and said, "Just kidding!! I'm sending 50,000 MORE troops to Afghanistan, re-starting the war in Iraq, and declaring war on Belgium."The reference to a new war in Belgium took Pentagon officials by surprise. They asked the president, "Why Bulgaria?"Obama said, "What are you, new? It's the chocolate. When are you people going to realize that it always about the chocolate?"The entire population of America has responded well to Osama's death because it's the first and only campaign promise that Obama has kept. Fifteen paid-to-attend teenagers waved tiny little American flags in a spontaneous pro-USA demonstration in front of the White House.Republicans, however, have been slightly more stingy with their praise of Obama. John Boehner told the president, "It's about time you had someone killed. Now, let's ramp it up a bit, huh? Because if you don't kill at least 50,000 more people before lunch today, we're going to impeach you."Newt Gingrich also released a statement, saying, "God wanted the Navy Seals to kill more people, but He prevented it from happening because that's how much He hates gay people."In a related story, Gingrich said that God has forgiven him for serving his first (or was it his second, third, fourth, or fifth?) wife with divorce papers while she was in the hospital being treated for cancer, and for cheating on all thirty of his wives and even cheating on his mistresses. "In fact," he said, "God and I have this deal, where I do whatever I want and He forgives me. It's called a Perpetual Dispensation and it only costs me $19.95 a week.""However," said Gingrich, "no one should construe this as meaning that God will ever forgive Bill Clinton for getting a little on the side, because He won't. God doesn't give perpetual Dispensations to democrats. He told me so."This reporter feels constrained to say that if he were president, he would have invited Osama over for lunch, the way that George Bush often hosted members of the Bin Laden Family in Texas.
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herminez:
good post. sounds good. especially what you said about whether Obama or Bush gets the credit when they really don't have much to do with the intelligence or the ability to do anything themselves. it's all the other people that work for the President that get the credit. Presidents are just politicians who take, or try to take, all the credit in order to get reelected....even though they may throw a bone they still want to be reelected and will use whatever cudos they can get. Of course, they are the ones to make the "high level decisions" to approve of the actions of the people who work for him. And you might have something there about using this as an excuse to get out of the war but there are many who are making lots of bucks by us being in a war. Maybe they know that we are about to invade someone else...like Iran? ...and need the manpower and materiel for the invasion. who knows, the lordes work in mysterious ways.