The flame for justice remains...
On Wednesday, fifty years after Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. told the world about his dream, our nation's first African-American president spoke from the very same steps of the Lincoln Memorial. President Obama spoke to a crowd of thousands, who marched on the National Mall to commemorate Dr. King's historic speech. In recognition of how far the fight for equality has come, President Obama said, “To dismiss the magnitude of this progress, to suggest, as some sometimes do, that little has changed, that dishonors the courage, the sacrifice of those who paid the price to march in those years.”
However, he also acknowledged how far we still have to go in the fight towards equality. He said, “we would dishonor those heroes as well, to suggest that the work of this nation is somehow complete.” The President, along with other civil rights leaders who spoke at the event, said that fighting for voting rights, combating unemployment, and reducing gun violence are still important issues in 2013. The “Let Freedom Ring and Call to Action” ceremony took place to honor the influential life and work of Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., as well as the millions who fought for civil rights in our nation.
President Obama explained the fight continues, “not just for African Americans, but for women and Latinos, Asians and Native Americans, for Catholics, Jews and Muslims, for gays, [and] for Americans with disabilities.” He said, “We might not face the same dangers of 1963, but the fierce urgency of now remains. We may never duplicate the swelling crowds and dazzling procession of that day so long ago – no one can match King's brilliance – but the same flame that lit the hearts of all who are willing to take a first step for justice, I know that flame remains.”
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Glen Greenwald was briefed by Edward Snowden when Snowden was still in Hong Kong and received thousands of documents on NSA spying. Some of those documents show that the NSA was spying on the Presidents of Brazil and Mexico and their advisors.
Quote cryptome:....the program enables finding, whenever you want, a needle in a haystack.The haystack, in this case, is the immense volume of information that U.S. intelligence has access to every day, spying phone networks, internet servers, e-mail and social networks. The needle is who they choose.
In the document, dated June 2012, there are two targets: the president of Mexico, Enrique Peña Nieto, then candidate leading in the polls for the presidency, and the president of Brazil, Dilma Rousseff.
It works like this: the selected targets are monitored by phone numbers, emails and IP, the computer identification. The same for the interlocutors chosen in the case, advisors. What they call 'leap', is all communication between the targets and the assessors
Edward Snowden: "the tactics of the U.S. government since September 11 is to say that everything is justified by terrorism. Scaring people to accept these measures as necessary. But most of the spying they do does not have anything to do with national security, it is to obtain an unfair advantage over other nations in their industrial and commerce economic agreements. "
"Mainway", which collects the large volume of information passing through networks.
"Dishfire" which searches for certain keywords.What they call "seeds" are the email addresses and phone numbers monitored. One of the programs used by the NSA is called "DNI selectors", which according to another document leaked by Snowden, capture everything the user does on the internet, including the content of e-mails and websites visited.

Quote Palindromedary:DAnneMarc: Thank you for that information. And it does look like those quotes says that the 7 heads were seven mountains and that the 10 horns are 10 kings or kingdoms but I didn't read into it any more than that. Yes, I know that Rome was built on 7 hills but I think it a stretch to think of them as mountains.But, of course, it does prove that they weren't talking about actual 7 headed monsters...like dragons or anything. They were obviously referring to something obliquely...symbolically.
Palindromedary ~ There are several classic ways to interpret this metaphor. It isn't as broad as the Prophecies of Nostradamus; but, it is applicable to many scenarios depending on your perspective, agenda, and knowledge. Basically depending on your agenda, the more knowledgeable you are, the more creatively you can interpret the Prophecy.
One potential interpretation says that the prophecy was already fulfilled when ancient Rome fell. Another says that the prophecy was fulfilled during the lifetime of the apostles. The modern interpretation is that the prophecy is being fulfilled right now. Of course, if it wasn't for President Ronald Wilson (666) Reagan, NATO, and recent history, I would probably discount the entire significance of the story. Now, I'm not so sure.
The interpretation that makes the most sense to me follows the thinking of the Prophecy of Daniel. If you look at the seven headed monster the same way Daniel looked at the Golden headed statue you have to see the seven kings first and foremost as the seven major world kingdoms in the history of mankind. "Five are fallen, one is." The world kingdom that existed at the time of the writing was The Roman Empire. "The eighth is one of the seven and must continue a short while." The eight kingdom is the rebirth of The Roman Empire. Essentially , The USA. Fortunately, this kingdom will continue a "short while" and go into perdition. That is probably the best news that The Book of Revelations has to offer in this interpretation.
This in one way to look at the seven heads. Since the prophecy also says they are "seven mountains" that are ridden by a "scarlet colored harlot who is decked out in precious gems" you can also interpret the seven heads as the Roman Catholic Church. Church and state aren't always separate; and, the greatest potential for tyranny is when they aren't separate. The prophecy tends to suggest that the Church is guiding, and profiting, from the Beast.
The ten horns are the ten kingdoms that exist at the same time as the eighth kingdom. The are given power "one hour" with the Beast. "They have one mind." The big question is how long is a metaphorical "Biblical" hour. There are two potential answers to that question that I know of. Elsewhere in the Bible it states quite clearly that 1 day with the Lord is 1000 years with man. If we do some math that means that 1 hour with the Lord should equal about 41.67 years with man. However, there is the problem in the new testament where Jesus is noted saying that, "Are there not twelve hours in the day?" With this perspective considered in the calculation then we come to 1 hour being about 83 years in the time of man.
Therefore depending on the date of enactment of this kingdom we can add 83 years to it to determine when it will come to an end. If the kingdom began in 1945, at the end of WWII, then it will end in 2028. If it began after the assassination of JFK in 1963, then it will end in 2046." Of course there are other potential beginnings for the eighth kingdom. The key into figuring out the end date is knowing the beginning date. To that ends, any other suggestions would be appreciated.
Yeah, I know, bad news. The 24 hour day seems like a much better interpretation. Only 41.67 years to deal with. However, If one looks at history there are few dates that you can come up with to begin the short count. Both the dates above would indicate that the kingdom has already ended; and, we all know that isn't true. Therefore, the 83 year count is the only logical one to pursue.
Of course, there is alway the option to discount The Book of Revelations as the hallucinogenic concoction of an old man living in a dark cave with nothing other than magic mushrooms and Holy batcrap to feed on. Bottom line, it is what it is. You be the judge.

DAnneMarc: I got a kick out of your last paragraph...funny! I got to admit that a lot of this stuff is way over my head...but, I'm not into it like you are. The one thing I know is that a lot of people who profess to be good Christians seem to be worshipping the golden bull (well, I guess it is really made with bronze). I refer to the bull bronze statue on Wall Street. Moses would be pi$$ed and, I suppose, so would Jesus!!

There's a new movie in the theaters, that I watched just today, called "Closed Circuit". I thought it was a very good movie. If you watch the movie, keep in mind the so-called terrorist attack on the London subway (aka: The Tube..aka: The Underground) bombing back in 2005. The movie isn't about that bombing but another one that has only happened in the movie...but the message could very well refer back to the 2005 bombing. Because, like on 9/11 in the US, our government was undergoing an exercise with the scenario of terrorists hijacking and crashing the airliners into tall buildings...but in London, in 2005, on the very day of that bombing...the British government was also having exercises including the scenario of bombing the subway. By the way, Julia Stiles has a cameo appearance as a reporter in this movie.
I had read that the US government plans to have yet another big exercise starting in 2014 that includes a massive terrorist attack...this time using nukes or chemicals, or biological warfare agents. Might be a good idea to just stay home and wear your CBW gas masks during 2014. The thing is that lots of Americans are starting to see through the fascism and lies of the American government and it could be that they will do another false flag operation to scare people back into waving their little flags and hating Muslims again.
Oh yes, here it is:
Quote cryptome:Scenario:
A new homegrown terror group, Al Qaeda in North America (AQINA), purchases a small amount of radiological/fissile material from a foreign country. Their goal is to develop two dirty bombs, which would then be transported into the U.S. through an East Coast port and a southern border point of entry. Due to a radiological leak, one of the devices is detected. AQINA obtains explosive materials from a domestic agricultural/chemical supply company and transports the materials through a known carrier, such as FedEx or UPS (possible insider threat component) toward their intended target, but are interdicted before detonation.Targets:
Financial Centers in Greenwich, CT and Charlotte, NCAlternative Targets:
Rail Transportation Hubs
Shopping Centers
There is more detail in the document at cryptome as to the specific locations and such.
http://cryptome.org/2013/08/guccifer-hsic.pdf
You see, while most of the participants in the exercise believe it is just an exercise and perform their roles in the "exercise"...higher ups could be covertly steering it to be the real thing..all they have to do is pull a few strings..have some covert "inside men" to make it happen for real. Then the politicians can claim Al Qaida did it. Funny how Al Qaida seems to be working for our covert intelligence agencies...just look at what they have done in Syria recently.

Quote Palindromedary:You see, while most of the participants in the exercise believe it is just an exercise and perform their roles in the "exercise"...higher ups could be covertly steering it to be the real thing..all they have to do is pull a few strings..have some covert "inside men" to make it happen for real. Then the politicians can claim Al Qaida did it. Funny how Al Qaida seems to be working for our covert intelligence agencies...just look at what they have done in Syria recently.
Palindromedary ~ Thank for that heads up. The more the public are aware of such a potential threat the greater the discouragement of allowing it to happen. After all, these terrorist attacks and attacks on the constitution are for profit only. There comes a time when you have to accept your losses and move on to better and brighter things. Once the cost becomes greater than the potential profit any wise businessman will cut and run.
To help steer a terrorist attack during an exercise is relatively easy and inexpensive for someone in power--especially involving key members of the "intelligence" community. However, given the state of mind of the current populace such an attack would demand high public scrutiny. There would be far greater collection of evidence by individuals as well as resistance to the destruction of evidence. People would pay closer attention and be far more skeptical. A popular cry out for justice would have to be heard and that alone could cost the guilty power brokers everything they have. I guess it would boil down to just how much these power boys like to gamble. A very sobering and scary thought indeed.
Meanwhile I will look for that movie, "Closed circuit." Looks like foreshadowing of doom worthy of checking out. Thanks again!

DAnneMarc: You're welcome!

He also said - to paraphrase - "My political opponents can kill me but they cannot induce or compel ME to kill. Thus they cannot defeat me in my purpose."

It's been said to death but I still like it.
The "March + 50" showcased that King and Obama are really very similar. King said, "I have a dream!" and Obama said, "I have a drone!"
I want the latter to give back his Nobel Peace Prize.

That's funny, Mark Saulys! But so true! #60



Flopot: Yes, Major Smedley Butler was a true hero who ratted on (whistle blower of his time) the bastard ruling elite who tried and failed, at that time anyway, to pull off a coups d'etat against the American government. He's one of my favorite historical people. Thanks for quoting him!!