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Palindromedary ~ Sorry! Perhaps I should have said x gallons per month. Perhaps even, x gallons per person per month. It worked very well in our past drought. In fact, our household never even came close to getting fined. No one wanted to pay any more monthly bills than they already had to. I'm sure that situation hasn't changed. Let's face it, people just don't wash their cars every day. They don't wash down their sidewalk without a nozzle every day. However, they do shower, they do wash cloths and dishes. They do brush their teeth. They do water their back yards. That is where the most water is wasted; and, that is where the most water can be saved.
Besides I believe I said "a gallon per month allotment", not "one gallon per month allotment." The word gallon was used as a unit and not a quantity. Although, admittedly potentially confusing to some people.
sven was svell wasn't he/she/it? If that was his/her/its real name. If it was, then there wasn't too many of that name.There was one in Kermit, Texas. And one with a Kazakhstan phone number. He drove a delivery truck and owned a 2006 Suzuki XL7. I won't give out his phone number though. So, the svell sven we all know and love may not have been the one in Texas. But I suspect that he lives in Kermit..something..maybe a small local community that Google Earth doesn't have in it's data base..and there aren't too many places in the world with a town or city named Kermit. I think there was one possibly in England as well but the phone number didn't match phone numbers in England.
Oh, well! That's svell! That's sven...or maybe not!
Geez Palin... how did you manage to track down where that toadie lives? While we were busy duking it out with Mister Toadie, you posted "Kermit" or "Kermit?" and I was wondering what the heck that was about. - AIW
As long as you all keep falling for the political theatrics of the two party system..ie: voting for either the Republicans or the Democrats...we'll never break this corrupt cycle. Don't you know by now that the Dems are not the answer. They just act like Republicans once they get into office. As long as you keep being afraid that voting for a 3rd party candidate will let the Republicans win, you will just keep voting for the party that will never act like Democrats or liberals or progressives. Although many may not realize it, the majority of Republican voters are just as deluded as the Democrat voters are. They suffer the same economy that Democrat voters do. If both Republican and Democrat voters finally decide enough is enough and vote both corrupt parties out then a very strong message will strike, like a lightning bolt, that we will no longer take their crap. That is our only hope aside from massive resistance and probably violence from the people in the streets. So, don't fall for the engineered scare stories that you must vote Democrat in order to take back the government. Even if 100% of the Congress, Senate, and the President were Democrats, we would not see the change that most of us want. It is all rigged to keep the 99% of us under the thumbs of the wealthy 1% ruling elite. The ruling elite owns both the Republicans and the Democrats!
Unless either a soft revolution happens or a violent revolution does, nothing is going to change in this country until the voters understand and realize that if they continue to play the same rigged game...nothing will get better for us. The corporations will continue to push the tax burdens off on the little people and they will continue to send our jobs overseas. And they will continue to cause military conflicts and overthrow governments all at enormous cost to the little people who are being drained dry.
Chuck, did you read my post #16? Thanks to Marc, I finally got it about those two distinctly different organizations. Sven is a cherry pickin' shill; good riddance to that rubbish! - AIW
DAnneMark: Yes!! What a great speech!!! Thanks for that link!
It's only the greedy maggots, like the oil companies..etc, and their trolloping twit useful idiots that still preach the golden rube of drill baby drill.
Sadly, since our infrastructure hasn't been maintained, for every drop of water citizens save, there will be yet another terrible water pipe bursting open. We lost more than 20 Million gallons this week when the pipe on Sunset Blvd. near UCLA broke, causing a horrendous flood, and loss of precious water resources. NO ONE, it seems, wants to raise water rates so we can hire the people it will take to do a massive, immediate overhaul of the nearly 100-year-old pipes that could break at any time. If people would see this as an emergency, we could perhaps put many more people into jobs that will get our infrastructure in better shape over the next couple of years. But if the people of SoCal and Los Angeles aren't willing to pay higher rates for water, then I guess we will all have to wait and see if we can make it through the drought... or face having to move if hundreds of these century-old pipes all burst at once, providing we can find a way out of the city around the flood waters.
Well said, Thom! However, one thing you didn't mention is how poorly the state government in California is handling the drought. This isn't the first time California has had a severe drought in my lifetime. The last time the one measure the government took was to ration water at water meters. Census and voluntary data was used to determine how many residents used the same water meter. Then a gallon per month allotment was placed on that meter. Any household going over that payed a $100 fine--if I remember correctly. It was more than enough to insure water conservation in most households. I remember catching water in our basins. Using bath water on plants. Turning off the shower head after wetting, then lathering and turning in on again to rinse off. Our house--along with every other I knew--were never fined. Everyone enacted strict water conservation measures and we got through the drought.
This latest legal measure California has adopted to deal with the drought is an irresponsible joke. I can't see it doing much good at all. One recent local article said that Santa Clara country was poised to hire 4-6 "water cops" to police the country. Their responsibility will be hoses used in front gardens. When we have water meters on every house we have placed the responsibility for conservation on a handful of Gestapo agents to police from the street. This approach is absolutely ridiculous and unconscionable in my opinion. The simple fact of the matter is that if you don't fine at the water meter you just don't really influence all water wasting behavior. Sure this problem is going to get worse before it gets better; however, I think it is important to note that the way the situation is being mishandled by the state it is going to get a lot worse a lot faster than it should.
And now the Obstructionists those Rat Brats have bought are voting to SUE Obama for his audacity at trying to go around them and do His Job! Wouldn't it be a KICK if enough of us got out the vote in November and actually got some of these GOP jerks defeated? (I know this is dreaming, but I'd love to watch the Fox News talking heads freak out if Democrats not only held the Senate but won a majority in the House!) ....just a thought
Last Thursday Republican Senator Jim Inhofe blocked a resolution that would have stated simply that climate change is real. After leaving the floor Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse took the floor and obliterated Inhofe's official climate change denial argument an a spectacular tongue lashing that has to be seen and heard to be appreciated.
http://ringoffireradio.com/2014/07/watch-democratic-sen-whitehouse-destroy-a-climate-change-denying-republican/
Is it true that a part of the Hobby Lobby decision reads as follows:
"It is easier for a Corporation to go through the Supreme Court than an honest polititian to get into Congress"?
Can a corporation reincorporate itself as a religion with the sincerely held tenets it's Board establishes?
I wanted to reserve the word fascist for the corporate thugs. However, "christofascist" is too good not to buy into.
This is my reply about Sven to you a couple of days ago. Sven seems to have disappeared.
AIW -- Sven was referring to the IPCC not the NIPCC. The IPCC is the report put out by the UN. The IPCC warns us how bad climate change is. Sven is referring to 5 or 6 pages in the 1400+ pages of the IPCC. Those 5 or 6 pages are why your course of action (97% of scientists agree) is appropriate. I am still anlayzing those 5 or 6 pages. It seems the contributors to that section do not understand detecting a signal in a very noisy sample. - See more at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2014/07/giant-methane-monster-lurking?page=1#sthash.jJi7Nw70.dpuf
DAnneMarc's blog was so good I hate to repeat mine.
Sven was referring to pages 214 to 220 in the IPCC.. These pages seem to say not to worry because somewhere in the world things are getting better. Using their line of thought applied to one of the last ice ages, it would say Europe do not worry that a glacier is going to destroy your continent because the Sahara will become a wonderful place for agriculture.
deander ~ That is true according to contemporary estimates. However, as Thom points out, these current estimates are linear. The estimates that the arctic news source calculated with NASA data is probably taking into account methane release. Thus, these estimates are not linear but hyperbolic where sea level rises at ever increasing rates as time goes on.
Personally, I find that a bit hard to believe too since I live near the coast all my life and the total sea rise I've seen so far is "0". However, the satellite photos of the receding ice cap, the atmospheric measurements of CO2 (Carbon Dioxide)and CH4 (Methane)--together with the mathematics that go along with it--do paint a dismal prospect for the future.
Whether or not that future will be as dismal as Thom's sources foresee is debatable. However, the fact remains that if there is any chance Thom is right we as a planet must act fast to mitigate the consequences of fossil fuel use. Of that there is no question. To that ends, no amount of exaggeration is unwise. Also, regardless of the consequences, fossil fuel use has to end. It is not a renewable energy source and its use poisons the planet.
Also, deander, although challenging Thom and his facts is permitted and encouraged in this forum, it is customary to present ones own sources quite clearly when doing so.
This is actually a test, a self test, a test to see if you are a liberal, or a Conservative, pass or fail depending on you and your outlook, to let you know I passed.
Just measure, prior to the commencement of the project, and the need to prepare for it before how to install replacement windows. This attention to detail and the new screens from the project will go well.
I find it so offensive that Republicans and Tea Party people we've elected and have been paying salaries to... are being SO PIG-HEADED about something as real, frightening, and dangerous as denial of Climate Change. Do they think they can pray the bays away? Like they think they could have prayed away the Gays if they had just prayed a little harder? Faith is something greater than ourselves can often be a worthy belief, but not when it means that ALL the rest of our country's people will be paying a terrible price for their stubborness. They are NOT elected to LIKE the President; they are elected to SERVE THE PEOPLE who pay their salaries. They are putting our lives and our livelihoods in jeopardy. I hope they will one day look back on their follies and wish they had been more open to the REAL over the imagined perfection. I am truly ashamed of all those who are acting like idiots. And to the senior representative from "Oklahoma... SHAME ON YOU for not wanting a fund VA to take care of the men & women you sent into harm's way who now need the best healthcare their service to America should have provided... It's not a Taj Mahal; it's a VA Center any State should be proud to build. I hope your vets remember what you said about them when it's your turn to be up for re-election
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All right Mark, you suck. Feel better now?
There is far more dire reason for them to sue and possibly Impeach the president and Vice-President:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w626GZl-IeY&list=UU5jdZmxutobzwuzR0f8C1hw
If they Impeach the President And Vice President, John Boehner will become the next president...Think about that a few minutes, then watch this Video.....Its scary what he would do to this country...
Okay guys, knock it off. I appreciate like hell your kind words but you don't have to keep at it. I wasn't having a personal crisis, just haven't been writing so much, thought I'd gotten out of shape or something.
I don't think I was fishing for compliments (and I hope I'm not being passive-aggressive :^)).
Thanks again for your supporting words.
You learn a lot from each of youse reading your all posts too.
l work in this field. I have not seen anything close to this estimated sea level rise by 2040 Thom cites - actually more like a couple cm not meters. I hope Thom is more carefull in examining and reporting this data otherwise he risks loosing credibility to the benefit of climage change deniers.
Richard Kreidler ~ I know what you are talking about. I had the same reaction when I read it. Very odd, indeed. However, I suspect that is in the blog post because it is probably part of the script of one of the monologues of the show. Often times I hear Thom read word for word from his blog title article. If it was a part of today's show--and I haven't heard the entire show yet so I don't know for sure--I imagine that the picture referenced was probably provided in the video telecast. Somewhat careless of the staff to leave that reference in the blog version. However, like you stated, there are also some other grammatical errors. I guess putting together such a show can stretch one's ability to perfect everything. I'm sure it was just an oversight.
Mathboy ~ You're the math expert. Can you explain how your post #9 is in response to post #11? I never saw the blog software mess up the order that bad before. Maybe this thread is haunted?
Did you mean the use of "data" as a singular? Or the typo of "seal level"? Anyway, I'd also like to see the picture.
Just an observation. There is no picture of New York City with a 6' sea level increase, as indicated in today's column. And there is at least one grammatical error. I only write this because this happens quite frequently, and the quality and Information of the article is worth writing with proper editing and attention to detail.