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AIW ~ You never seize to amaze me. Keep this up and I will have to write you in as candidate for President 2016. Don't make me do it!!
Ok! Forget it!! It is done!!!
Matt, I think your "supply and demand" argument is inappropriate in the context of education. That's business language. Education is not a business, much as certain people would like us to think otherwise. - AIW
Kend, consider yourself warned: I and various others on this forum have very little patience for you Canadians griping about your healthcare system. No one in your country is bankrupted by illness or injury. An American woman is TWICE as likely to die in childbirth compared to a Canadian. You folks live longer than we do. From our perspective, you've not much to complain about. So get over it. You sound like a spoiled brat. - AIW
Hey Matt, if you love your job that much, have at it! Up 'til now, I've never had a job I loved that much. Hopefully at this late stage of life that might be changing for me. But I'd have to love my job an awful lot to want to spend forty or fifty hours a week at it. Like most people, I work to live, not the other way around. - AIW
I'm with Chuck on that. This voucher system is bullshit. We need to go back to public education for everyone. I don't buy Matt's argument that students "don't have time" to hear how things should be. If they don't hear it, they won't push for it. They deserve better than vouchers. And I don't accept the argument that it will take "generations" to fix the system. That's just a rationalization for doing nothing, simply accepting a new status quo that isn't doing the public any favors. Like Chuck says, the voucher system is bogus. Just more privatization! Like I keep repeating here, I reject privatization of the commons; ESPECIALLY regarding education and healthcare. Everything the privatizers touch turns to shit. And it's a bloody rip-off. Enough already. - Aliceinwonderland
Loren Bliss ~ I have to hand it to you brother. You certainly have an inspired way with words that make me blush. I agree with everything you've said. Please keep them coming.
A few working definitions bring Mr. Hartmann's point into sharp focus:
Capitalism is an economic system based on infinite greed elevated to absolute virtue. Infinite greed is the rejection of every humanitarian principle our species has ever articulated. The rejection of all such principles is moral imbecility. Capitalism is therefore the economic expression of moral imbecility.
Capitalist governance means absolute power and unlimited profit for the One Percent and the Ruling Class in general, total subjugation for all the rest of us -- in other words, capitalist governance is fascism, also known as plutocracy or (perhaps) "sociopathocracy": rule by moral imbeciles.
Nazism is the ultimate form of sociopathocracy. Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf -- in English, "My Struggle" -- is the bible of Nazism. Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged -- a fictionalization of the ubermenschen/untermenschen heirarchy that is the core principle in Mein Kampf -- is the bible of capitalism. Both are epics of moral imbecility. The relationship between Mein Kampf and Atlas Shrugged demonstrates the relationship between capitalism and Nazism: the latter is the ultimate expression of the former.
Thus We the People should have no difficulty foreseeing the terrible, final price we will pay if the moral imbeciles who now tyrannize us are allowed to remain in control of our nation.
Us with faith in all types of things like decency,morals,and god
As opposed to faithless vicous,moraless,and godless people
Sounds like basic age old ""good versus evil""
Yes what comes around goes around and evil will return evil,
Not very smart people, sad really. All for the love of worthless numbers.
Kend ~ You totally missed the point again. I'm talking about how much money our countries spend on war. According to Wiki the US blows almost $700Billion/year on it's war machine. Compared to the rest of the world China blows $166Billion/year and Russia $90Billion. Canada only wastes $22MILLION/YEAR. That's nothing. Canada isn't even on the list of the 15 highest nations by military budget.
I really don't care how much or how little you support our stupid phony foreign wars. How much money you throw at the waste basket as compared to the USA is what I'm talking about. Simple fact, you care for the health needs of all your people. That makes your system superior. You don't rip off your citizens when it comes to medical needs. That makes your system superior.
So what if you have to wait to see a doctor? Obviously there are other people ahead of you in worse shape. Would you have them thrown out into the street to die just so you can get in and get back home in time to see Matlock. No one is saying Canada is perfect, we're just saying that it blows our system away economically, expediently, and humanitarianly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
Kend ~ What a perfect aristocratic and greedy perspective. Is Zoro and Robin Hood also evil for taking money? The Democrats don't want to take the money for themselves as you would lead us to believe. Actually, they want to take the money to use to finance the commons that benefit everyone. Wealthy people just don't want to have to pay any fair share of that which they also use. Now that is truly evil. To answer your question no, the Democrats wanting to take money from the Republicans in the form of progressive taxes doesn't make them evil. It doesn't even make them remotely as evil as the Republicans; who only want to pocket profits that they will never need or use. All it means is that the Democrats are doing their job
If money is the root of all evil why do Democrats want to take it all from the Republicans. Wouldn't that make them evil.
Funny I never thought of Oprah, Gates, Buffett, Clinton, Pelosi etc as evil. Huh.
Years ago my aunt was an arts photographer in a major American city. She routinely dealt with wealthy patrons. She reported that their manners left much to be desired and many were extremely stingy and arrogant. My son, who has also dealt with wealthy clients, says that, frequently, the wealthy are among the great unwashed, as well.
Bad manners, stingy, arrogant, adverse to general hygiene, and all the things Thom mentions above--sounds like someone I'd want to emulate and running our country--not.
lie in a negotiation, break traffic laws, take valued goods from others, and even cheat to increase their chances of winning a prize. Numerous studies also found that those in a higher social class were more narcissistic - See more at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2014/05/rich-vs-poor#newlie in a negotiation, break traffic laws, take valued goods from others, and even cheat to increase their chances of winning a prize. Numerous studies also found that those in a higher social class were more narcissistic - See more at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2014/05/rich-vs-poor#new
LOVE of money IS root of ALL evil CORP BILLIONAIRE LOBBYIST GREED I
ITS NEVER ENOUGH FOR THESE FOLKS
Spot on Thom... lock 'em all up and throw away the keys!
I wonder if there's a genetic coorelation between being wealthy and immoral/unethical. If there is, perhaps we should prevent the wealthy from reproducing, with the goal to eventually cleanse those bad genes from the pool. And maybe a DNA test for those bad genes to identify the closeted wealthy wanna-be's.
I'm home sick right now, so this is probably just a anti-histimine-induced fantasy.
Gotta dream big.
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What is wrong with the tax structure from the new deal to the moment Reagan was sworn into office?
Chi Matt -- That is why it is imperative that we raise tariffs as soon as possible. The customer base may be shifting but it isn't there yet. If it works for the small customer base of Brazil, why wouldn't it work here?
Chi Matt -- You keep pushing for discounts for rich people. The voucher system has been shown not to work. Why do you keep pushing for it. The profit motive in education seems ridiculous.
Chi Matt -- How many people actually would rather work then spend time with their families? My guess is 1%. I am mostly joking, but the labor laws in most states have a huge category of exempt employees. Those are the empolyees that can't require they be paid overtime for working extra hours.
Chi Matt -- Your supply and demand would have more validity, if Reagan did not verbalize one of his motivations was because the students he educated only objected to the things he did.
I think you need to realize the correlation of the "silent majority" and the recent poll results that showed that only 17% of the people know that the republicans have control of the house.
Check out the TedTalks presentation by Paul Piff regarding the rigged monopoly game experiment.
There are two basic definitions of 'free enterprise':
1. Political conditions should encourage all to behave in an enterprising fashion.
2. A corporation should go anywhere and do anything it chooses if it can make a profit.
These two definitions are mutually exclusive.
Why don't we re-name the Republican Party the "Death Party" or the "Wrecking Ball Party", or the "Screw You Party"? - AIW
Sadly we're learning about death panels, not a result of Obamacare, but at VA hospitals by managers wanting to look good for promotion and bonuses and because the Republicans in Congress have descimated VA funding over the past decade creating the log jam the VA managers have tried to hide.
Right on, Marc! Not that we were ever "threatened" in the first place. But any country as wealthy as this one, that can't educate and care for the health of its own people, is hardly worth defending. - AIW