DAnneMarc: I once knew someone who worked as a photo specialist in Naval Intelligence in DC and he showed me a photo of JFK and Jacky after having just deplaned at the airport and in the same picture was LBJ and Lady B. who both had grotesque scowling on their faces at the Kennedys and LBJ was pointing in index finger at JFK. They were obviously not having a good time and were obviously having some kind of very bad disagreement with the Kennedys. The guy showed me the photo back in about 1969 or 70. I always wondered about that. I don't know if that photo ever made it out to the public. It was an actual photo and not a copy.

Palindromedary ~ Holy Cow, seriously. The Bush family controlling the security of the World Trade center is what I think Ole was talking about. He didn't say G H W Bus directly was in charge. He said George senior 'controlled' the security. Remember whenever Ole implicated the Bush's he specified that it was never the children behind anything, it was always the father.

That is quite a bombshell for me. (Pardon the pun.) It really is quite irrelevant which member of the family was in charge the implications are the same. That would explain how the buildings were accessed, wired, and exactly who did it. Operation 40. As Ole explained elsewhere in the interview various members of this team had extensive training in explosives. Who else is so washed in CIA blood to be trusted with such a mission? Now it all makes sense.

DAnneMarc: #23: I had read that it was not George HW Bush that was in charge of the WTC security..but rather either Marvin Bush or even Wirt Bush. The Marvin was a close relative, GW's brother, I believe...and Wirt Bush was not a very close relative. I would have to look more deeply into this. There are the 911 truthers who have claimed one thing and there are those who refute it.

And yes I have read about the Drug smuggling into Mena, Arkansas airport while Clinton was gov. This is the first I heard about GHW Bush actually standing right there awaiting drug shipment to arrive.

I ran across a photo of the old International Trade Mart in New Orleans founded by Clay Shaw...got the address and tried to find it on Google Earth Street View but there is what looks like a Sheraton building...that's the name over the door anyway..and it is many times taller than the old 5 story Trade Mart. I guess they must have torn down the Trade Mart and built the new 33 story Sheraton building.

DAnneMarc: I prefer to believe that the strange things that happen are caused by very wealthy and powerful people who control governments. It is surely within the ability of these powerful people who also owns and/or manipulates the mass media for propaganda and establishment of what is eventually considered "history" to do such things. Whether it be members of the Skull and Bones, the Illuminati, or any of the other powerful organizations...they are fully capable of carrying out these things at any particular time they see fit. Lots of people have 6 characters in each of their names...like Ronald Wilson Reagan...and it is fun, perhaps, to pretend that has any significance.

They are also fully capable of creating liberal or left sounding named organizations...that pretend to work for the people...but who are really working against them. Every form you fill out on-line could be collecting your data..your name, address, credit card info, etc and, despite their words of encouragement promising that your data will not be misused...they may very well misuse your data anyway. What will people, violated like this, ever do if they even found out about it? What are they doing about the NSA? What can they do? Most people will never know that powerful organizations have collected this data and will one day use it against them.

You really cannot trust putting your sensitive information on any web site even if it pretends to be secure because those that set up the web site may be misusing your data. And then, there are those man-in-the-middle hackers that can grab your data as it travels to the web site you intended your data to go to. Can you really trust web sites that collect data, like fund raisers, or petitioners like say...salsa...or woofoo...or survey monkey? Those are the people behind that web site you gave in "Bernie Sanders' letter". If you look at the url salsa.wiredforchange.com and then go to those links then when you click on the "Fill out my online form" it takes you to a woofoo.com link to handle the form data...and woofoo.com was purchased by SurveyMonkey.com .

Now, most likely, Bernie Sanders, or someone that is affiliated with Bernie Sanders hired this company to collect petitions...along with, of course, a nice big donation... but how do we know that our information is not being misused by the data collectors? How much of those donations are actually used to pay off the web site? A lot of times, the overhead (ie: paying off these handlers of charities or political fund raising efforts) is way more that the people you think you're sending money to actually gets. It's a big racket! Don't think for a minute that you are responding directly to a web site that Bernie Sanders has direct control over. The real reason for all these scare petitions is to manipulate you to hand over a donation most of which goes to the handlers..and a little bit goes to the charity or politician you intended it to go to.

And I love the people who complain that the Affordable Health Care Act is going to force people to divulge their income to the feds. Ever heard of the income tax?

DAnneMarc: #15: Thanks for that link...I watchsd it. Very interesting! What was said starting at about 1h 12m to about 1h 15m was very interesting. The speed of the interview was a bit slow so I watched it at about 1.5x speed...stopping periodically to do research on some of these Operation 40 characters. Very interesting how many of the dates were coincident with other historic dates as well. I will, no doubt, re-watch the video and continue to do more research.

Sounds more like "Heads we win, tails we win"!

Hello friends, It looks like they are at it again. Here is an urgent letter from Senator Bernie Sanders asking for signatures on a petition to save Social Security. Please sign.

Petition

Quote Letter Fom Senator Bernie Sanders:

They’re at it again.

Billionaires like the Koch Brothers, Pete Peterson, Stanley Druckenmiller and others are leading the charge to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

If they succeed, millions of senior citizens, working families, disabled veterans and children will suffer. We must not allow that to happen.

Today, the middle class is disappearing, real unemployment is extremely high, poverty is increasing and working families throughout the country are struggling to keep their heads above water economically. Meanwhile, the gap between the very rich and everyone else is growing wider and wider and the wealthiest people and the largest corporations are doing phenomenally well.

WE MUST NOT BALANCE THE BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF WORKING FAMILIES, THE ELDERLY, THE CHILDREN, THE SICK AND THE POOR.

As Vermont’s senator, I have the honor of serving on the Budget Conference Committee which will be negotiating a new federal budget over the next few months -- and where I am fearful that a deal could be struck to slash Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits.

As the founder of the Defending Social Security Caucus, please stand with me, our friends at Social Security Works and our coalition partners in demanding; “No grand bargain in exchange for cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits.”

Let’s be clear. Despite right-wing rhetoric:

• Social Security is not going broke. According to the Social Security Administration, Social Security has a surplus today of $2.8 trillion and can pay out every benefit owed to every eligible person for the next 20 years.
• Social Security has not contributed to the deficit. Social Security is funded independently by FICA taxes which are paid by workers and their employers.

The so-called chained-CPI, which recalculates how COLA’s are formulated, is not a “modest tweak.” If the chained CPI went into effect today, a senior aged 65 would receive $658 a year less in Social Security benefits when he/she is 75, and $1,100 a year less at age 85. Further, the average disabled veteran would lose tens of thousands of dollars in benefits over his/her lifetime.

Please stand with me today and demand that Congress and the President oppose any grand bargain which cuts Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits.

When one out of four U.S. corporations pay nothing in federal income taxes; when Bush’s tax breaks for the rich remain in place for many wealthy Americans; when the U.S. spends almost as much as the rest of the world combined on defense, there are much fairer and economically sound ways to address the budget than cutting programs desperately needed by the most vulnerable people in our country.

Please stand with me and Social Security Works in protecting the future of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits.

Let’s go forward together. Thanks for your continued support.

Sincerely,

U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders

Palindromedary ~ You especially would get a kick out of this interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o9M2dodkio

Quote Dame:I'm 65. I've always regarded my phone calls as a conduit....I don't say anything that I wouldn't want overheard or repeated if I'm speaking on a phone....nuff said.

Dame ~ That is excellent advice; and, I certainly agree. I don't think you should ever speak without assuming everyone hears you. My fear of Karma and God more so than fear of any Politician or Agency. Any subversive or threatening comments anywhere can obviously pose a very real danger to anyone. Besides, such comments aren't very productive anyway. However, the present danger goes far beyond saying stupid things on open channels. Because of the spy procedures described by Edward Snowden together with the published story of DHS Agent Julia Davis there is no reason whatsoever to accept the idea that the NSA is trying to protect us. It is clear that they are attempting to establish a web of intelligence meant to control us. Snowden said that when someone was suspect of something their calls were compromised, as well as their contacts, and their contacts contacts. By establishing such a web of suspicion, eventually everyone will be caught in it somehow or another and become a person of interest--even if they don't do or say anything provocative. The classic name for this technique I believe is a "Witch Hunt." J. Edgar Hoover and Joseph McCarthy all over again. Anyone can be targeted, and any communication can be taken out of context and expanded beyond it's original intent. That is if they want to mess with someone. That assumes you are useful to them to some degree. If you are useless there is another course of action. Because of the Patriot Act, anyone can be apprehended without trial or even being changed with anything. That sets up a system where the Government can eliminate anyone it whats for any clandestine reasons that it wants; and, that victim may not even be aware of. That could be for National Security; however, it could just as easily be as a favor for some wealthy person or group of interest that owns the politician giving the order. In that case you can be targeted for almost any reason--because of people you know, business you conduct, property you own, things you know, or even places you have been. You could also be targeted to send a message to someone else, or as an example to a targeted group. The possibilities are endless.

But wait! It gets much, much worse. Now that this illegal activity has been expanded to include kill lists with orders to eliminate people instead of apprehending them, no one is safe. Because these decisions are surrounded in dark secrecy under classified National Security we will never know if someone had an accident, overdosed, or committed suicide. With the current state of evolved affairs, elimination can take the form of an execution style shooting by law enforcement, or even a drone strike. As long as this fascist police state secrecy is allowed we the people have to assume the worst to protect our own best interests and the interests of our families. Without due process and adhering to Constitutional rights we will never know if these targets were suspected or guilty of committing any crimes. We will also never know what they were really targeted for. Therefore, as good as your advice is, in this sorry state of affairs--even if heeded--it guarantees the safety of no one. We now stand subject to terrorists far more egregious than any terrorists that they were ever created to defend against. We will never remedy this situation by sticking our heads in the sand...nuff said--not.

I agree with you, DAnneMarc. Excellent remarks.

IMO the security agencies have been running the ship - at least in part - for some time. Had Bobby Kennedy been in charge of the CIA - JFK may have survived 2 terms in the white house. However - as Jesse Ventura said - JFK made a lot of enemies. He did some good things and was in the process of doing more. 50 years ago. Wonder what those agencies know to keep the presidents in line?

When the government was shut down - the NSA was not. When other parts of the government were subject to the sequester - the NSA was not. The administration officials should have told the NSA where to go when they got shook down.

We need intelligence - good intelligence. Not this BS. Get rid of the contractors. Everything needs to be under the direct supervision of the administration and congress. Cut the size by at least half.