This ‘Evil Government’ mantra and this 'Evil Government' meme is a BLUE MOOSE and RED HERRING!
This is nothing but scare verbiage from the Right to scare the Middle Class into subservient submission!
The only entity that PROTECTS 90 per cent of American Citizens from the rapacious Banksters, Super-Rich, Corporations Fascists and the Right Wing ideologues is GOVERNMENT! In Fact, our Democratic GOVERNMENT was created to protect the Small guy from the Rapacious Greedy guy, who if left unchecked, would make slaves of us all.
Stop watching FOX Noise/Lies! Think! The very people who advocate and preach this nonsense are the very people who would love to see Government disappear.
Government is GOOD for the Middle Class. If you don't believe this, hope you like living under a Fascist state where there is no longer a Government to protect or fight for you! And where your vote no longer matters. And where the super-rich and corporate fascists can start treating you like Slaves!
Nuclear power is no longer economical. The Rocky Mountain Institute has shown that solar and wind are cheaper and less dangerous. The liquid fluoride reactor may be more practical, but the US doesn't seem to be interested in developing it, even though it was invented at Oak Ridge.
Nothing separates Conservatives from Liberals more than their values related to social justice, a term coined in 1840 by a Jesuit Priest who related it to the teachings of Saint Thomas Aquinas. Economics cannot be separated from politics. Neither can economics be separated from social justice, unless you happen to be an economist. There is a way to move from power and greed to compassion and the common good but you will never hear a politician or an economist speak of it.
The Washington Post, which first reported the incident, reported that the fight began not long after takeoff when a passenger lowered his seat and a passenger behind him objected.
Many passengers are rude and selfish. That is the American way!!!
WASHINGTON — Government and airline officials say a United Airlines plane with 144 people aboard returned to Washington-Dulles International Airport for an emergency landing escorted by two F-16 fighter jets after a fight broke out between passengers.
Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Laura Brown says Flight 990 bound for Accra, Ghana, returned to Dulles in Chantilly, Va., just after midnight Sunday after a fistfight in the cabin.
Government officials confirmed that fighter jets were scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland.
United spokesman Mike Trevino said Tuesday that the Boeing 767 dumped fuel as a safety precaution to lighten its weight on landing.
The Washington Post, which first reported the incident, reported that the fight began not long after takeoff when a passenger lowered his seat and a passenger behind him objected.
Here are words from John Perkins' above article. They are the last three paragraphs of his article.
We must all ask ourselves:
How can a nation that prides itself on government “of, for, and by the people,” justify hiding these black budget allocations from taxpayer scrutiny? How can a nation continue to prosper by ignoring its own long-term demise at the hands of a militarized economy?
If we truly want a real democracy to survive for generations to come, then we must demand extensive military reductions. We must demand a peaceful and sustainable path for our country and for the world at large. We must bring our soldiers home. We must protect ourselves from the tsunami that is building on Wall Street and in the halls of Washington DC.
Yes ban nukes-the Chalk River reactor in Ontario has leaked many times and the Darlington reactor has had tens of billions in cost overruns.There are 200 types of nuclear isotopes with their own deletirious effects on the body in nuclear fuel.Mind you there are a lot of NIMBYs in Ontario who don't want wind turbines, yet Toronto has one of the world's worst air qualities from 2.5 million cars, and all the coal and gas fired power plants.This big province that is shaped like a fish with 250,000 lakes 1/3 of which have been severely acidified.The smog in Toronto is very visible and yet these NIMBYs are deeply concerned with wind turbines ruining their views?Carbon monoxide knows no bounds and is taking years off our lives.
@j.sea & Kassandra Troy, that is the only profile I have to share. As far as monopoly of a blog I have and read several sources to share information. If you have more information to share, please share it. I do not claim to be more or less mature than any of the people who comment on Thom's blog. I do know that the killing of God's children is wrong. As my mentor said to me about 35+ years ago, "War creates more problems than it resolves problems but we as a people are too immature to know and understand that war creates more problems and not less problems." I DO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT WAR RESOLVES NOTHING IN TERMS OF A POSITIVE NATURE. War is a breakdown in diplomacy. We have too many diplomats who believe in Bush's words, "my way or the highway." I love John Perkins book, "Economics of a Hit Man." It probably does a good job of summarizing our foreign policy.
Gerald....... OY! I come here sometimes to see how how very much of a thread he has monoploized. I seldom read his stuff 'cause I don't particularily like quackers. And yes, that photo isn't cute anymore, if it ever was. Maybe it tells us something about Gerald level of maturity
As for the nuclear, I see my country going more insane with every passing day.
I just saw a NYT article telling us the Mr Obama has appointed some dude :
Yes, especially states like "Misery." They don't respect the dying or the dead. My grandmother lived the last two years of her life and died of cancer in Marionville on May 19 (three days before the tornado) and the funeral home people stood there and gawked at her body like it was a commodity while we were trying to have a peaceful family moment with her. They didn't allow a family viewing of her cremation as it was in a "factory" somewhere near Joplin. There are no laws protecting respect for the deceased or their families. The tornado was not deserved by its victims but was certainly deserved by the MO state government and should be a wake-up call to the country about that horrible, Confederate state which is still trying to decide what side of the civil war they're on! Thank God I don't live there, and I will never return to MO again.
I was at a local cheese maker yesterday (VerdeFarms.net - site will be there soon!) and the amount of electricity required is truly amazing. From the pump for the well to water the grass the sheep graze on, to the milking machinery, to the curd making tank and then the pasteurization for the cooked milk cheeses. Finally, the large aging rooms have to be carefully conditioned. If our power costs go up, even operations like this will have to close. Now, imagine what happens to the chip-making fabs, factories of all types and even hospitals.
"There is simply not enough (nor will there ever be) wind, solar, or other so-called renewable sources to substitute for nuclear and coal. Therefore as Germany is hell-bent on destroying its economy and manufacturing base, which make it the foremost economy in Europe, China and the United States, if it gets its economy on track by removing a myriad of taxes and regulations, will benefit enormously as a major competitor decides to commit suicide."
If they really do this, we'll get to see Wyatt's torch ever more clearly. Hence my sig:
Atlas Shrugged was supposed to be a warning, NOT a newspaper!
"You will not be surprised to hear that the events in Japan have changed my view of nuclear power. You will be surprised to hear how they have changed it. As a result of the disaster at Fukushima, I am no longer nuclear-neutral. I now support the technology.
A crappy old plant with inadequate safety features was hit by a monster earthquake and a vast tsunami. The electricity supply failed, knocking out the cooling system. The reactors began to explode and melt down. The disaster exposed a familiar legacy of poor design and corner-cutting. Yet, as far as we know, no one has yet received a lethal dose of radiation.
Some greens have wildly exaggerated the dangers of radioactive pollution. For a clearer view, look at the graphic published by xkcd.com. It shows that the average total dose from the Three Mile Island disaster for someone living within 10 miles of the plant was one 625th of the maximum yearly amount permitted for US radiation workers. This, in turn, is half of the lowest one-year dose clearly linked to an increased cancer risk, which, in its turn, is one 80th of an invariably fatal exposure. I'm not proposing complacency here. I am proposing perspective."
“If the consequences of the tsunami include ending nuclear power world wide, the cost in blood and treasure of the earthquake and tsunami may literally be very high indeed. Energy is the main ingredient of out modern economy, and without plentiful supplies economic progress comes to an end or even reverses. Oil becomes more vital. So does coal. If AGW has any truth to it, there’s that, too.”
In other words, if this is allowed to stop nuclear power, we will become even more dependent on oil and there will be more wars over energy than you can imagine.
Think long and hard before going down that road. If you want to see what happens if that road is taken, contemplate my sig:
Atlas Shrugged was supposed to be a warning, NOT a news paper!
The elimination of nuclear power by Germany is far and away the most significant, sane, and noteworthy development in nuclear energy news in generations. And there is no question that the US could do the same and should. Enough of this BS and nonsense about safe nuclear. Fukushima is still melting down, radiologically poisoning an are with over 500,000 inhabitants and creating a critical dead zone, and (according to various research reports) also bound to kill many thousands of Japanese and impose a death sentence on untold others through an as yet uncontrolled release of radioactive materials into the land and sea. You would think this would get the attention of everyone in this country and put a stop to this nonsense, but government here is even more morbidly asleep at the wheel than in Japan, and we may have to suffer huge losses domestically through Nuclear before something changes.
It is already a series of miracles that no nuclear power plant in the US has had an uncontainable accident, though there are hundreds of recorded breaches of safety and toxicity that have gone un-announced, and the structural and procedural problems with our nuclear plants are immense. We can listen all we wish to even well-thought individuals (like Stewart Brand) who feel we must have nukes in the energy production mix. Fine. Have those who want this move their families in next door to the nukes. Put all the K street lobbyists and governement tools of industry right next to the 5 most likely plants to fail and force them to live there if they continue to support this insanity. Take away all health care and insurance covering radiological events as well. Then see how "foolproof" they all think this is. Every single person who does not understand the problem here has a poor grasp of the human toll this is taking and lacks critical insight into the immense negativity this forces on generations upon generations. To say that the country that converted its industrial base from peace to war in less than a year in WWII can't find enough green energy to replace that 25% nuclear is the most inane thing I have ever heard.
We have more to fear from our own complacency and lack of self-interest than we do from any terrorist organization outside the country, and those who continue to impose this myth of safe nuclear can, and perhaps should be, labeled as terrorists sooner rather than later.
Welcome to Mythic Thyme, Welcome to the New Beyond, Two Hours from the Ocean, One Second from Non-Time. Creative Souls Unite! ...................Sea U there! ;)
This ‘Evil Government’ mantra and this 'Evil Government' meme is a BLUE MOOSE and RED HERRING!
This is nothing but scare verbiage from the Right to scare the Middle Class into subservient submission!
The only entity that PROTECTS 90 per cent of American Citizens from the rapacious Banksters, Super-Rich, Corporations Fascists and the Right Wing ideologues is GOVERNMENT! In Fact, our Democratic GOVERNMENT was created to protect the Small guy from the Rapacious Greedy guy, who if left unchecked, would make slaves of us all.
Stop watching FOX Noise/Lies! Think! The very people who advocate and preach this nonsense are the very people who would love to see Government disappear.
Government is GOOD for the Middle Class. If you don't believe this, hope you like living under a Fascist state where there is no longer a Government to protect or fight for you! And where your vote no longer matters. And where the super-rich and corporate fascists can start treating you like Slaves!
I wish they would, but it is probably idealistic to think they might reduce 50% of those in the most hazardous positions.
Nuclear power is no longer economical. The Rocky Mountain Institute has shown that solar and wind are cheaper and less dangerous. The liquid fluoride reactor may be more practical, but the US doesn't seem to be interested in developing it, even though it was invented at Oak Ridge.
One of Michigan's gems is dying. Sad, very sad!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110527/ap_on_re_us/us_struggling_peninsulaIs
Is one of Michigan's gems revealing to you and me America's future???
American governance is a total disaster.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Seven-defects-of-American-by-Harold-Hellickson-110529-774.html
Nothing separates Conservatives from Liberals more than their values related to social justice, a term coined in 1840 by a Jesuit Priest who related it to the teachings of Saint Thomas Aquinas. Economics cannot be separated from politics. Neither can economics be separated from social justice, unless you happen to be an economist. There is a way to move from power and greed to compassion and the common good but you will never hear a politician or an economist speak of it.
Americans must GET READY for more wars. In the American psyche wars are glorious experiences.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Get-Ready-for-Digital-Fals-by-Rob-Kall-110531-128.html
It's the military stupid!!!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/It-s-the-Military-Stupid-by-Dave-Lindorff-110529-609.html
@yankeerebel64,
The Washington Post, which first reported the incident, reported that the fight began not long after takeoff when a passenger lowered his seat and a passenger behind him objected.
Many passengers are rude and selfish. That is the American way!!!
CRAZY ALERT !
WASHINGTON — Government and airline officials say a United Airlines plane with 144 people aboard returned to Washington-Dulles International Airport for an emergency landing escorted by two F-16 fighter jets after a fight broke out between passengers.
Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Laura Brown says Flight 990 bound for Accra, Ghana, returned to Dulles in Chantilly, Va., just after midnight Sunday after a fistfight in the cabin.
Government officials confirmed that fighter jets were scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland.
United spokesman Mike Trevino said Tuesday that the Boeing 767 dumped fuel as a safety precaution to lighten its weight on landing.
The Washington Post, which first reported the incident, reported that the fight began not long after takeoff when a passenger lowered his seat and a passenger behind him objected.
It would be great if they did take the hint, but greed will out.
mathboy, we replayed the Richard Trumka interview, the rest of the hour was live.
Here are words from John Perkins' above article. They are the last three paragraphs of his article.
We must all ask ourselves:
How can a nation that prides itself on government “of, for, and by the people,” justify hiding these black budget allocations from taxpayer scrutiny? How can a nation continue to prosper by ignoring its own long-term demise at the hands of a militarized economy?
If we truly want a real democracy to survive for generations to come, then we must demand extensive military reductions. We must demand a peaceful and sustainable path for our country and for the world at large. We must bring our soldiers home. We must protect ourselves from the tsunami that is building on Wall Street and in the halls of Washington DC.
Yes ban nukes-the Chalk River reactor in Ontario has leaked many times and the Darlington reactor has had tens of billions in cost overruns.There are 200 types of nuclear isotopes with their own deletirious effects on the body in nuclear fuel.Mind you there are a lot of NIMBYs in Ontario who don't want wind turbines, yet Toronto has one of the world's worst air qualities from 2.5 million cars, and all the coal and gas fired power plants.This big province that is shaped like a fish with 250,000 lakes 1/3 of which have been severely acidified.The smog in Toronto is very visible and yet these NIMBYs are deeply concerned with wind turbines ruining their views?Carbon monoxide knows no bounds and is taking years off our lives.
READ and LEARN!!!!!
A militarized economy cannot balance the budget!!!!!
http://www.johnperkins.org/?p=1043
@j.sea & Kassandra Troy, that is the only profile I have to share. As far as monopoly of a blog I have and read several sources to share information. If you have more information to share, please share it. I do not claim to be more or less mature than any of the people who comment on Thom's blog. I do know that the killing of God's children is wrong. As my mentor said to me about 35+ years ago, "War creates more problems than it resolves problems but we as a people are too immature to know and understand that war creates more problems and not less problems." I DO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT WAR RESOLVES NOTHING IN TERMS OF A POSITIVE NATURE. War is a breakdown in diplomacy. We have too many diplomats who believe in Bush's words, "my way or the highway." I love John Perkins book, "Economics of a Hit Man." It probably does a good job of summarizing our foreign policy.
Gerald....... OY! I come here sometimes to see how how very much of a thread he has monoploized. I seldom read his stuff 'cause I don't particularily like quackers. And yes, that photo isn't cute anymore, if it ever was. Maybe it tells us something about Gerald level of maturity
As for the nuclear, I see my country going more insane with every passing day.
I just saw a NYT article telling us the Mr Obama has appointed some dude :
Obama Nominates Bryson for Commerce Secretary
To get the "business opinion" in his cabinet
As if he hasn't completely surrounded himself already with banksters and corporate types after 2010
(Thsi thing neds a spel chacker!)
Yes, especially states like "Misery." They don't respect the dying or the dead. My grandmother lived the last two years of her life and died of cancer in Marionville on May 19 (three days before the tornado) and the funeral home people stood there and gawked at her body like it was a commodity while we were trying to have a peaceful family moment with her. They didn't allow a family viewing of her cremation as it was in a "factory" somewhere near Joplin. There are no laws protecting respect for the deceased or their families. The tornado was not deserved by its victims but was certainly deserved by the MO state government and should be a wake-up call to the country about that horrible, Confederate state which is still trying to decide what side of the civil war they're on! Thank God I don't live there, and I will never return to MO again.
I was at a local cheese maker yesterday (VerdeFarms.net - site will be there soon!) and the amount of electricity required is truly amazing. From the pump for the well to water the grass the sheep graze on, to the milking machinery, to the curd making tank and then the pasteurization for the cooked milk cheeses. Finally, the large aging rooms have to be carefully conditioned. If our power costs go up, even operations like this will have to close. Now, imagine what happens to the chip-making fabs, factories of all types and even hospitals.
The actual result of them doing so is summed up quit succinctly here: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/05/germanys_impending_energy_su...
"There is simply not enough (nor will there ever be) wind, solar, or other so-called renewable sources to substitute for nuclear and coal. Therefore as Germany is hell-bent on destroying its economy and manufacturing base, which make it the foremost economy in Europe, China and the United States, if it gets its economy on track by removing a myriad of taxes and regulations, will benefit enormously as a major competitor decides to commit suicide."
If they really do this, we'll get to see Wyatt's torch ever more clearly. Hence my sig:
Atlas Shrugged was supposed to be a warning, NOT a newspaper!
novasystems: "and those who continue to impose this myth of safe nuclear can, and perhaps should be, labeled as terrorists sooner rather than later."
Well, then you better start calling George Monbiot a terrorist:
http://www.
.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/21/pro-nuclear-japan-fukushima
"You will not be surprised to hear that the events in Japan have changed my view of nuclear power. You will be surprised to hear how they have changed it. As a result of the disaster at Fukushima, I am no longer nuclear-neutral. I now support the technology.
A crappy old plant with inadequate safety features was hit by a monster earthquake and a vast tsunami. The electricity supply failed, knocking out the cooling system. The reactors began to explode and melt down. The disaster exposed a familiar legacy of poor design and corner-cutting. Yet, as far as we know, no one has yet received a lethal dose of radiation.
Some greens have wildly exaggerated the dangers of radioactive pollution. For a clearer view, look at the graphic published by xkcd.com. It shows that the average total dose from the Three Mile Island disaster for someone living within 10 miles of the plant was one 625th of the maximum yearly amount permitted for US radiation workers. This, in turn, is half of the lowest one-year dose clearly linked to an increased cancer risk, which, in its turn, is one 80th of an invariably fatal exposure. I'm not proposing complacency here. I am proposing perspective."
And Dr. Jerry Pournelle checks in:
http://www.jerrypournelle.com/view/2011/Q1/view665.html#Saturday
“If the consequences of the tsunami include ending nuclear power world wide, the cost in blood and treasure of the earthquake and tsunami may literally be very high indeed. Energy is the main ingredient of out modern economy, and without plentiful supplies economic progress comes to an end or even reverses. Oil becomes more vital. So does coal. If AGW has any truth to it, there’s that, too.”
In other words, if this is allowed to stop nuclear power, we will become even more dependent on oil and there will be more wars over energy than you can imagine.
Think long and hard before going down that road. If you want to see what happens if that road is taken, contemplate my sig:
Atlas Shrugged was supposed to be a warning, NOT a news paper!
The elimination of nuclear power by Germany is far and away the most significant, sane, and noteworthy development in nuclear energy news in generations. And there is no question that the US could do the same and should. Enough of this BS and nonsense about safe nuclear. Fukushima is still melting down, radiologically poisoning an are with over 500,000 inhabitants and creating a critical dead zone, and (according to various research reports) also bound to kill many thousands of Japanese and impose a death sentence on untold others through an as yet uncontrolled release of radioactive materials into the land and sea. You would think this would get the attention of everyone in this country and put a stop to this nonsense, but government here is even more morbidly asleep at the wheel than in Japan, and we may have to suffer huge losses domestically through Nuclear before something changes.
It is already a series of miracles that no nuclear power plant in the US has had an uncontainable accident, though there are hundreds of recorded breaches of safety and toxicity that have gone un-announced, and the structural and procedural problems with our nuclear plants are immense. We can listen all we wish to even well-thought individuals (like Stewart Brand) who feel we must have nukes in the energy production mix. Fine. Have those who want this move their families in next door to the nukes. Put all the K street lobbyists and governement tools of industry right next to the 5 most likely plants to fail and force them to live there if they continue to support this insanity. Take away all health care and insurance covering radiological events as well. Then see how "foolproof" they all think this is. Every single person who does not understand the problem here has a poor grasp of the human toll this is taking and lacks critical insight into the immense negativity this forces on generations upon generations. To say that the country that converted its industrial base from peace to war in less than a year in WWII can't find enough green energy to replace that 25% nuclear is the most inane thing I have ever heard.
We have more to fear from our own complacency and lack of self-interest than we do from any terrorist organization outside the country, and those who continue to impose this myth of safe nuclear can, and perhaps should be, labeled as terrorists sooner rather than later.
Ms. Merkel gets it, Martin doesn't.
ftm1776 - here's the link you asked about -
http://www.frontpathcoalition.com/
What is the name or website of the man who was just on representing the single-payer group that was set up in Ohio???
Thanks
Welcome to Mythic Thyme, Welcome to the New Beyond, Two Hours from the Ocean, One Second from Non-Time. Creative Souls Unite! ...................Sea U there! ;)
j.sea - thanks for the explanation! =)
I would LOVE to move to Portland! In fact, my husband and I have discussed the possibility of that within the next two years.