Thom’s rant on April 11, 2011 was great. He needs to use the turn off or turn down volume for a questionable guest and his or her filibuster because such behavior is appropriate and necessary for Thom’s progressive listeners. Is Thom slowly becoming convinced that the United States of Mortal Sin does not have any future? Obama seems to continuously throw working Americans under the bus. Was Obama programmed to be president by our shadow government to any hope for working Americans future? The powers-that-be put up a lame fascist-Nazi ticket in McCain and Palin. Obama has $150 million in trust plus he and Michelle have fabulous retirement pensions to live very well. Is Obama a fascist-Nazi plant to destroy any hope for Americans and for America’s future?
Thom was on a roll and for good reasons on April 11, 2011. He does a good job of educating and informing us and he saw before his eyes the rigging of an election in Wisconsin for a judgeship. We are not a democracy!!! The fascist-Nazi Party plans to lower the tax bracket for the rich by 10 points and privatize Social Security because it is out of money. These Satan disciples have educated their minion disciples with nonsense. How will lower taxes for the rich and the elimination of Social Security lower our deficit? You add money to Social Security by increasing the ceiling for payment into Social Security from $108,000 to $200,000; you raise the taxes for the rich in graduated earning steps from 35% to 50% to 70% to 91%.; and you cut the fat out of pork programs. You enhance health care for all like Medicare; you raise wages and the minimum drastically; you increase Social Security and entitlement programs; and you stop policing the world with our American hypocrisy, such as we are going to war to stop wars and having our CIA entrenching dictators around the global. The Republicans will have their way because the Democrats are a stupid mass of amoebas.
There was an essay in the April, 2010 of Harper’s. The title was “The Vanishing Liberal: How the Left Learned to be Helpless” by Kevin Baker, pages 29-37. Here are some highlights from the essay – Democrats are reduced to a state of psychological helplessness; they are no longer able to overcome political obstacles; the progressives have rejected nations of destiny; they prefer the authority of experience to the claims of ideology; and for a generation or more liberalism became an almost perfect machine for the reformist impulse. When the Supreme Court ruled that corporations are people, our democracy has ended forever.
16 percent? I am surprised that many people think Obama will keep his promises.. He says more progeressive sounding things, but then does things that only a conservative would like..
Thom your program is the way to reverse the trend towards a feudal society. The problem is how to create a echo chamber filled with truth, justice, and the American way ,with the magnitude to counter corporate media, such as Murdoch's lies, injustice, and the oligarch's way?
I have noticed one common thread shared by the Tea Party and Republicans, they are all Foxed up on Koch. To put it mildly, they are being misinformed in order to be mislead. This evil and greedy manipulation of misinformation voters, to the point at which they all agree the super-rich need tax relief, is nothing short of mass certifiable brainwashing .
So back to the original problem, how to reverse all this brainwashing. I think big money in the manner of a George Soros or Warren Buffet need to step up, create a truth and justice echo chamber, and move us from these political Dark Ages, into a Democratic Renaissance. In addition to making history.
Thom Hartmann (born May 7, 1951) is an American radio host, author, former psychotherapist and entrepreneur, and progressive political commentator. His nationally-syndicated radio show, The Thom Hartmann Program, airs in the United States and has 2.75 million unique listeners a week.In 2008, 2009, and 2010, Talkers Magazine named Hartmann the tenth most important talk show host in America debt relief companies
We have enought money to pay &sypport the Dictators of the World,we are not broke to keep stuyffing money up the 2% Elite Class &they are going to take more out of us little people??
There is lots of things wrong w/ this Picture!!!
Im so fed up w/ the GOP & there ubsuerd ways of runing our country.
Yes, Thank You Thom! I mentioned that statistic on your show to Sen Sanders a bit over a week ago. I have been screaming at any Dem I can write to mention wealth-inequality stats to hammer home a more equatable budget, but to no avail. I'm sure you have many more where that came from. I think the writer who mentions the world 30 or so years from now makes a good point. Perhaps the rich have something else in mind...like hording as many assets as possible to gain control over natural resources, etc. If they don't listen to peaceful hoards, I guess civil disobedience might be our only hope.
Blood from the rich? I want as much blood from the rich as they have taken from the poor and middle class. If there is 48% of the working class people who are paying Zero in income tax, (which is an extremely high unsubstantiated assumption on the behalf of one person,) the reason would be that the 5% of upper class people (who are known to pay no taxes) have left 48% with no job to pay taxes in the first place. By the way. . . America has long past the possibility of becoming a welfare state. (.:!:.)
More and more our nation is revealed to be indistinguishable from the New World countries to our south, with an outsized role for the military and political control exercized (i.e., bought and paid for) by the "latifundistas." Like so many other "campesinos" who occupy the Western Hemisphere, we live in a sham democracy run for the benefit of a few ruling families and giant corporations (the Corporintern). The broad interests of the citizenry are no longer addressed, not even rhetorically.
The pusillanimity of the Democrats, starting with the president, is unfathomable to me. The only explanation is that the majority of our Democratic leaders really have no values except expediency. I am an Democratic ideologue, and disinclined to apologize for it. The American pee-pill, whose silence was interpreted by the militarists and other reactionaries as tacit approval when we began waging criminal wars of aggression early in this century, CANNOT be counted on to discharge the obligations and bear the burdens incumbent on a free people. Alo, Argentameritina.
How much blood do you want from these so called rich? If you taxed them at 90 percent do you think that would balance the budget? Not even close, when you have 48 percent of working class people paying zero income tax it is pretty easy to see that you have to reduce spending in a big way and also broaden the tax base -- that means getting more people with skin in the game. if you want a welfare state be prepared to put up or shut up.
after tiptoeing around the forbidden topic, more and more of us are saying out loud the straightest path to a better america: no second term for obama. look at the empirical evidence: almost always sides w/ the right, almost always says nasty things about the left. every move: wall street, health care, spying on us, treatment of bradley manning, energy etc: all helping out the right. and now even social security is on his table. plus, what's he done for labor in 2+ years? he isn't caving, conceding or lacking spine. no, this is who he is. the man is doing what he thinks is correct. except that it's so wrong. 4 extre years of this? no way. the right wing constantly puts up total a-holes for office while we on the left are always told to 'settle', don't push too far or we won't win. b.s. right now with labor awakened is the perfect moment to move it all LEFT. now, not later.
And who is the Presidents base now? A bunch of apologists saying they understand our anger but he (Obama) is somewhat better than the alternative? This is NOT what I voted for in 2008! Writing in "Bernie Sanders" on my 2012 ballot is sounding much more hopeful, and would bring more real change than what we've got now.
Thom Lets keep it simple We must Raise tax rates on top- corp , multi million & billionaires , end their huge subsides, end tax loopholes. Its their turn to 'sacrifice ' Bill Clinton raised their taxes, made some cuts thereby balancing the budget and leaving a huge surplus.. also..Remove the soc sec tax cap now @ 106 K End Afghan war Leave Libya That saves many trillions Easy if GOP cares about the ' small' / middle class people.
It looks like today tribes are going to be down to these 400 supper rich people, They want to live forever you know and screw the rift -rats. Winner takes all. Most likey they will hold a few number of us rift-rafts to work for them. You know they will need a audience so they can reflect their greatness because if there weren't, any rift-rafts around to show them, then who would they be to say so? The way things are going,they just might have to walk around with radiation suits, make love in these suits for the rest of their lives. Perhaps too, they will have to live underground just like moles. As years go by, their eyes may begin to bulge.
How Can U think Of doing anything to them Poor Poor Poor Bankers:??????????Where would the Koch Bros get the cash for the right wing groups???They "NEED" every penny!!!!!!
Re: the 1% transaction tax: This is even more attractive than higher income taxes for the highly paid.
Wonderful! Are the numbers really correct???
This is in a class with my favorite solution: totally take off the cap on income subject to FICA (payroll tax). "Tax every earned dollar for Soc. Sec."
When you have bumper stickers printed please post that info and where I can buy some, please!
Yes, the class war has been acknowledged by Warren Buffet, and, allegedly by Rupert Murdoch.
My frame for viewing all that has been going on is precisely that.
My prayer is that the president awaits the next gathering on the Washington Mall (and surrounding areas) of all of us who remember the Beat Generation's, "big lie" of the 50's; and the varied types of turmoil in the 60's about racism, equal access to public accommodations, consumers' protection laws, and in opposition to the Vietnam war. Sex, drugs and rock'n'roll were the markers of the sexual revolution, abortion rights, welfare rights, and "women's lib," which was born in the same cauldron, fired by the writing that had been published in the 50's and 60's.
Isn't it high time that we were called to protest the privilege of the filthy rich?
Jamie Johnson's film, "One" suggested, among other ideas, that many of the long-time wealthy are frightened by the messages they get from the advisers they pay handsomely to manage their funds. They're ignorant, and dwell in a delusion that holds that there will never be enough money to to safeguard them from the disasters that befall us all. And, "the message of fear" holds that there isn't enough to go around, so survival dictates that they clutch tightly what they own and bar no holds in the effort to seize and gather more.
When shall we meet again, and lead the way for our children and grandchildren, and support the efforts of the younger generation to take the lead and carry it on?
The way this situation will be reversed is an impossibility at this point in the game, in my opinion, since the American people have sided with the corporations and are willing to give their all to see the crooks succeed by giving up their rights. Let's be for real. . . as wonderful and as hope lifting as things were in Wisconsin, it wasn't nearly enough to send more than a slap on the wrist to those who spend every waking hour to rob the American people who are already giving them more than what they want. If it takes every night to come on here and yell I will. "R E V O L U T I O N !"
Thom’s rant on April 11, 2011 was great. He needs to use the turn off or turn down volume for a questionable guest and his or her filibuster because such behavior is appropriate and necessary for Thom’s progressive listeners. Is Thom slowly becoming convinced that the United States of Mortal Sin does not have any future? Obama seems to continuously throw working Americans under the bus. Was Obama programmed to be president by our shadow government to any hope for working Americans future? The powers-that-be put up a lame fascist-Nazi ticket in McCain and Palin. Obama has $150 million in trust plus he and Michelle have fabulous retirement pensions to live very well. Is Obama a fascist-Nazi plant to destroy any hope for Americans and for America’s future?
Thom was on a roll and for good reasons on April 11, 2011. He does a good job of educating and informing us and he saw before his eyes the rigging of an election in Wisconsin for a judgeship. We are not a democracy!!! The fascist-Nazi Party plans to lower the tax bracket for the rich by 10 points and privatize Social Security because it is out of money. These Satan disciples have educated their minion disciples with nonsense. How will lower taxes for the rich and the elimination of Social Security lower our deficit? You add money to Social Security by increasing the ceiling for payment into Social Security from $108,000 to $200,000; you raise the taxes for the rich in graduated earning steps from 35% to 50% to 70% to 91%.; and you cut the fat out of pork programs. You enhance health care for all like Medicare; you raise wages and the minimum drastically; you increase Social Security and entitlement programs; and you stop policing the world with our American hypocrisy, such as we are going to war to stop wars and having our CIA entrenching dictators around the global. The Republicans will have their way because the Democrats are a stupid mass of amoebas.
There was an essay in the April, 2010 of Harper’s. The title was “The Vanishing Liberal: How the Left Learned to be Helpless” by Kevin Baker, pages 29-37. Here are some highlights from the essay – Democrats are reduced to a state of psychological helplessness; they are no longer able to overcome political obstacles; the progressives have rejected nations of destiny; they prefer the authority of experience to the claims of ideology; and for a generation or more liberalism became an almost perfect machine for the reformist impulse. When the Supreme Court ruled that corporations are people, our democracy has ended forever.
Does Obama have what is needed in a leader?????
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110412/ap_on_re_us/us_spending_showdown_taxes
I shutter at the language but George Carlin answers the questions for our many problems succinctly!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q&feature=player_embedded#at=33
@Berry, good post!!!
16 percent? I am surprised that many people think Obama will keep his promises.. He says more progeressive sounding things, but then does things that only a conservative would like..
I'm sure most everyone might have seen his, before, but it is funny at the same time true but sad. Here's George Carlin ~ The American Dream>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q&feature=player_embedded#at=33 A reminder to have a good laugh in these terrible times.
Off with their heads!
They have no heart
and every tart
with future interest on the chart.
Andersen and Touche are Lord-
Lincolns for Royals, for peasants a Ford.
XXXXX
Thom your program is the way to reverse the trend towards a feudal society. The problem is how to create a echo chamber filled with truth, justice, and the American way ,with the magnitude to counter corporate media, such as Murdoch's lies, injustice, and the oligarch's way?
I have noticed one common thread shared by the Tea Party and Republicans, they are all Foxed up on Koch. To put it mildly, they are being misinformed in order to be mislead. This evil and greedy manipulation of misinformation voters, to the point at which they all agree the super-rich need tax relief, is nothing short of mass certifiable brainwashing .
So back to the original problem, how to reverse all this brainwashing. I think big money in the manner of a George Soros or Warren Buffet need to step up, create a truth and justice echo chamber, and move us from these political Dark Ages, into a Democratic Renaissance. In addition to making history.
Thom Hartmann (born May 7, 1951) is an American radio host, author, former psychotherapist and entrepreneur, and progressive political commentator. His nationally-syndicated radio show, The Thom Hartmann Program, airs in the United States and has 2.75 million unique listeners a week.In 2008, 2009, and 2010, Talkers Magazine named Hartmann the tenth most important talk show host in America debt relief companies
This is A Mafia style democrasy!!!
What is wrong w/ our so called democrasy?
We have enought money to pay &sypport the Dictators of the World,we are not broke to keep stuyffing money up the 2% Elite Class &they are going to take more out of us little people??
There is lots of things wrong w/ this Picture!!!
Im so fed up w/ the GOP & there ubsuerd ways of runing our country.
This is NOT DEMOCRASY!!!
The U.S. is simply stuck on stupid. With anything less than a full meltdown we will muddle along forever
ekim555...great idea about taxing dirivative trades!
Yes, Thank You Thom! I mentioned that statistic on your show to Sen Sanders a bit over a week ago. I have been screaming at any Dem I can write to mention wealth-inequality stats to hammer home a more equatable budget, but to no avail. I'm sure you have many more where that came from. I think the writer who mentions the world 30 or so years from now makes a good point. Perhaps the rich have something else in mind...like hording as many assets as possible to gain control over natural resources, etc. If they don't listen to peaceful hoards, I guess civil disobedience might be our only hope.
Blood from the rich? I want as much blood from the rich as they have taken from the poor and middle class. If there is 48% of the working class people who are paying Zero in income tax, (which is an extremely high unsubstantiated assumption on the behalf of one person,) the reason would be that the 5% of upper class people (who are known to pay no taxes) have left 48% with no job to pay taxes in the first place. By the way. . . America has long past the possibility of becoming a welfare state. (.:!:.)
More and more our nation is revealed to be indistinguishable from the New World countries to our south, with an outsized role for the military and political control exercized (i.e., bought and paid for) by the "latifundistas." Like so many other "campesinos" who occupy the Western Hemisphere, we live in a sham democracy run for the benefit of a few ruling families and giant corporations (the Corporintern). The broad interests of the citizenry are no longer addressed, not even rhetorically.
The pusillanimity of the Democrats, starting with the president, is unfathomable to me. The only explanation is that the majority of our Democratic leaders really have no values except expediency. I am an Democratic ideologue, and disinclined to apologize for it. The American pee-pill, whose silence was interpreted by the militarists and other reactionaries as tacit approval when we began waging criminal wars of aggression early in this century, CANNOT be counted on to discharge the obligations and bear the burdens incumbent on a free people. Alo, Argentameritina.
How much blood do you want from these so called rich? If you taxed them at 90 percent do you think that would balance the budget? Not even close, when you have 48 percent of working class people paying zero income tax it is pretty easy to see that you have to reduce spending in a big way and also broaden the tax base -- that means getting more people with skin in the game. if you want a welfare state be prepared to put up or shut up.
after tiptoeing around the forbidden topic, more and more of us are saying out loud the straightest path to a better america: no second term for obama. look at the empirical evidence: almost always sides w/ the right, almost always says nasty things about the left. every move: wall street, health care, spying on us, treatment of bradley manning, energy etc: all helping out the right. and now even social security is on his table. plus, what's he done for labor in 2+ years? he isn't caving, conceding or lacking spine. no, this is who he is. the man is doing what he thinks is correct. except that it's so wrong. 4 extre years of this? no way. the right wing constantly puts up total a-holes for office while we on the left are always told to 'settle', don't push too far or we won't win. b.s. right now with labor awakened is the perfect moment to move it all LEFT. now, not later.
And who is the Presidents base now? A bunch of apologists saying they understand our anger but he (Obama) is somewhat better than the alternative? This is NOT what I voted for in 2008! Writing in "Bernie Sanders" on my 2012 ballot is sounding much more hopeful, and would bring more real change than what we've got now.
Will it continue ? likely Yes GOP- Ryan- McConnell & Boner will ram rod this through NO matter who gets hurt They are ruthless liars SOB's
Thom Lets keep it simple We must Raise tax rates on top- corp , multi million & billionaires , end their huge subsides, end tax loopholes. Its their turn to 'sacrifice ' Bill Clinton raised their taxes, made some cuts thereby balancing the budget and leaving a huge surplus.. also..Remove the soc sec tax cap now @ 106 K End Afghan war Leave Libya That saves many trillions Easy if GOP cares about the ' small' / middle class people.
It looks like today tribes are going to be down to these 400 supper rich people, They want to live forever you know and screw the rift -rats. Winner takes all. Most likey they will hold a few number of us rift-rafts to work for them. You know they will need a audience so they can reflect their greatness because if there weren't, any rift-rafts around to show them, then who would they be to say so? The way things are going,they just might have to walk around with radiation suits, make love in these suits for the rest of their lives. Perhaps too, they will have to live underground just like moles. As years go by, their eyes may begin to bulge.
How Can U think Of doing anything to them Poor Poor Poor Bankers:??????????Where would the Koch Bros get the cash for the right wing groups???They "NEED" every penny!!!!!!
Sadly, at this point President Obama's "announcements" have become increasingly meaningless.
Re: the 1% transaction tax: This is even more attractive than higher income taxes for the highly paid.
Wonderful! Are the numbers really correct???
This is in a class with my favorite solution: totally take off the cap on income subject to FICA (payroll tax). "Tax every earned dollar for Soc. Sec."
When you have bumper stickers printed please post that info and where I can buy some, please!
Yes, the class war has been acknowledged by Warren Buffet, and, allegedly by Rupert Murdoch.
My frame for viewing all that has been going on is precisely that.
My prayer is that the president awaits the next gathering on the Washington Mall (and surrounding areas) of all of us who remember the Beat Generation's, "big lie" of the 50's; and the varied types of turmoil in the 60's about racism, equal access to public accommodations, consumers' protection laws, and in opposition to the Vietnam war. Sex, drugs and rock'n'roll were the markers of the sexual revolution, abortion rights, welfare rights, and "women's lib," which was born in the same cauldron, fired by the writing that had been published in the 50's and 60's.
Isn't it high time that we were called to protest the privilege of the filthy rich?
Jamie Johnson's film, "One" suggested, among other ideas, that many of the long-time wealthy are frightened by the messages they get from the advisers they pay handsomely to manage their funds. They're ignorant, and dwell in a delusion that holds that there will never be enough money to to safeguard them from the disasters that befall us all. And, "the message of fear" holds that there isn't enough to go around, so survival dictates that they clutch tightly what they own and bar no holds in the effort to seize and gather more.
When shall we meet again, and lead the way for our children and grandchildren, and support the efforts of the younger generation to take the lead and carry it on?
The way this situation will be reversed is an impossibility at this point in the game, in my opinion, since the American people have sided with the corporations and are willing to give their all to see the crooks succeed by giving up their rights. Let's be for real. . . as wonderful and as hope lifting as things were in Wisconsin, it wasn't nearly enough to send more than a slap on the wrist to those who spend every waking hour to rob the American people who are already giving them more than what they want. If it takes every night to come on here and yell I will. "R E V O L U T I O N !"
Q:How do you think this situation will be reversed? .....
A:By re-electeding status quObama!?!...oh... and drink, liberally!