What is this? Obama has not revealed all that is going on. But Obama who's side is he on? Just like "Top Gun". Obama is dangerous and we do not "know" his loyalties. Yet CSI evidence shows he caves to the irrational whims of the rich. Time and time again. Too much like Bush says the fox. But? Obama slaps his base in the face "Buck up", yet wines and dines neocons?

Is there an Obama lingering lounging secret Muahmmed Ali punch waiting for neocons to knock them 6ft back and up in the air? Liberals hope so for all things payback for Bush/Cheney evil.

PASSION elected Obama in 08. Passion of hating BUSH/CHENEY elctected Obama in 08. Gee academically we need to appoint 2 liberal Supreme court justices. Gee HOW? Where is the PASSION for 2 supreme court justices? IT IS NOT THERE. QUIT LIVING IN A DREAMWORLD. The majority of the American PASSION is why isn't my family eating? NOT 2 Supreme Court Justices.

You and Thom want 2 Supreme court justices? Then you need to bring the PASSION baby. Otherwise? You are pi**ing in the wind and wasting time. AND? You will lose 2012

Obama can't win 2012 doing what he did in 2009 and 2010. Obama has to learn to fight right handed not just left handed.

So far what I see is Obama is a whimp, who caves everytime the rich say "jump!"

Maybe Obama is holding back waiting for the right moment to strike for that populist victory, but maybe Obama is just a sellout to corporations like he has been for the past 2 years.

C####p you can't believe in.

John

Holbrooke is right, of course. He waited too long to speak his conscience.
Holbrooke had a lot to answer for. He was on the wrong side of history in East Timor when he offered arms to the corrupt Indonesian government and 200,000 civilians were slaughtered.
Then there was Biden's push to war Senate meeting in which Holbrooke pimped the Iraq war and dissenting voices were disinvited.
He is credited for brokering the Bosnian cease fire but not before he supported bombing them.
Whatever else he was, he was no diplomat unless you are referring to threats and bullying that WikiLeaks has shown us, now passes for diplomacy.
Why are we there? $$$$$ The top 1% don't want to settle for 90%. They want it all. Megalomaniacs almost never pay attention to history and never think they are going to lose.

Peoples United turned over the deed.

I hold great respect for Peter DeFozio but I have to disagree with his statement that the extended tax breaks are a failed economic policy, on the contrary , they are very successful manipulated economic

policy for and from the wealthiest members of an elite aristocracy. An aristocracy that takes their royalty and power very seriously. Perhaps some of them see themselves as omnipotent in doing the most considerate thing for the rest of us who are only interested in a" ho down" and a" six pack", but I'm sure the majority are quite self serving and intoxicated with power. The exclusive power of having control over a nation by extorting it's citizens. I myself grew up in a medium size town dominated by the wishes of one very wealthy manufacturing family who control the town, it's mayor and public officers

and can at will make life, employment, and success impossible for critics, or resisters.

Every election most house holds in Newberg can look forward a personal letter suggesting how they would like a vote to be cast. They also participate on a larger state and federal level.

In our current economic crises I abhor the tax breaks for the wealthy and the fact that they extort a policy of continuing economic gloom and non creation of jobs if they don't get their way. They (the elite) have had plenty of tax break time to create jobs and improve the economy at home. Instead they break unions, and outsource. Eventually I foresee a time when citizens will no longer be separated by the tired old liberal/conservative cliche' but instead become united in anarchy and looting for survival. The elite and privileged have always been short sighted in their greed up until it's to late to save their own lives. We had a good constitutional plan to begin with in this nation. It's time we got it back on track.

That's the beauty of the system. Thom said today that we have to get in and take over the Democratic Party. That's a fools game, not even close to chess. The Party exists in part to absorb progressive and populist movements and marginalize them. They want us in the party, and will say anything to get our votes. Once in, we are set to the side.

How do we deal with that? By staying out of the party. Let them fade to minority status. And then brain to get in on our terms.

Not gonna happen, I know, but Thom's game is poker for losers, where your opponent always gets to know your hand.

I don't believe Thom's support for Obama is for the individual but for the party. We were duped into believing Obama had a slightly more progressive lean. Absent a sound challenger that can rally fence-sitters in the primary, we are stuck with Obama.

So, I suppose I'd have to say that the divorce in the caller's past is relevant in the bigger picture of the nature of human relationships, but it is illogical to allow his pain about the divorce to lend to a negative view of polyamory.

Many times Thom has talked about the Tea Partiers and Progressives getting together because we have so much in common. What is missing is just how we are going to do this. I would like to suggest that interested folks "Youtube" Sheldon Solomon, professor at Skidmore College. Listen to the clips of his lecture on Earnest Becker. Don't miss the opportunity to do this. He is funny, entertaining and informative. This lecture helps to explain the dynamics of groups and why members of the group will defend it's identity to the death. If we are going to form coalitions and make changes, we need to know what these groups (Republican, Democratic, religion), provide for their members.

I would like to suggest that Thom has this guy on as a guest.

In addition, a great book to read that helps to understand the other side is, Deer Hunting With Jesus. by Joe Bageant.

My jaw dropped and I was cut to the bone when I heard that seething call from the man who had been hurt by divorce. I sympathize with his pain, but he needs to realize that it is irrelevant when examining polyamory. I and a lot of people I know are poly and we are doing just fine, thank you very much. The success rate of poly relationships is about the same as those of monogamous ones. The stats for the welfare and happiness of kids is about the same, too. If people are happy and healthy, why can't others just be happy for them?

Tom, if you would like to encourage callers to participate, please don't let them sit on hold for more than one hour. Some of us out here are unemployed and only have a cell phone. On the rare occassion that we might want to contribute to the conversation, it often gets too costly. If I ever call again, please have your producer be considerate enough to inform me. If she finds that I'm not on topic or, for whatever reason it's necessary to let me sit while 2 dozen callers are marched on in front of me, then TELL ME. Please Thom, treat us with the respect that you solicit from your listeners every day. Thankyou.

If you want to be stupid, you must listen to Fox News. Stupid does as stupid is!!!

How can you be a listerner of Thom and not know who your representative is?