Thom - I received a flyer in the mail yesterday titled “Vote Democratic” sent out by The Team for Democratic Voters. It’s promoted as a guide to take with you to the polls. It looks like it’s from an official Democratic organization, all the office holders are correct. The problem is the flyer endorses ballot positions opposite of what progressives support. Any chance you can alert California voters about this deception.
RE; RFK killing; recently-released audio recordings show 14 shots from at least 2 guns were fired, 6 more bullets than Sirhan's gun held. Also, re: the .22 caliber pistol Thane Cesar claimed he sold before the shooting, he actually sold it months after the shooting.
I understand what you are saying and have heard it too. But I don't underestimate our human ability to find a way to waste this planet altogether or at least the lovely concatenation of serendipity that allowed life to develop here. Truth to tell, she may be better off without us.
Thanks guys and gals. I realized that I was becoming border-line snotty and just wanted to make sure that I was not being a total asshat . . . My actual response to FreeRider's post was:
"Are you Senator Harry Reid? I could understand the levels of anger you expressing if you were being called out on your personal piss-poor performance and could not face your personal ineffective career . . . If you are not Senator Reid, I suggest you consider spending time with an anger management specialist.
Back to point: Who is whining? I am flat-out stating that while Senator Reid appears to be a good Senator, he is spectacularly bad at being Majority Leader. I stand on the facts and I am NOT sorry if the truth offends you.
Seriously, I conceded the student loan thingy and retracted the spineless comment. It is not my fault that once spineless is taken off the table, we are left debating whether Senator Reid is spectacularly crappy at his day job or simply criminally negligent. I willingly give Senator Reid the benefit of the doubt and fiat the decision that his ineptness is not intentional malfeasance.
At this point I find myself having to apologize for appearing contrarian but . . . While you, personally, may have little use for someone willing to express fact-based truth to you, I am not worthless to my family and I act in a responsible manner to support them. Additionally, as for your attempted slur labeling me being a “tweezers-dick”, I need to let you know that I am more of a pencil-prick.
BTW you never answered my question: Should I run for office?
Tonight's Vigils will be held throughout the country to mark the 50th day of the ongoing oil spill in the Gulf. I'll be personally hosting the event in Dania Beach, FL. I'd love to see some of you come out and join us as we show Washington we want an end to our oil addiction! You can sign up for my event here! http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/event.html?event_id=104025
If you're not in the area, you can find an event near you at http://www.moveon.org/ or if you're unable to attend, there are links on that site to some great organizations you can donate to!
I'd like to personally thank the City of Dania Beach, and Kristen Jones of the Parks & Recreations Department for making my event possible! They've proven we can all stand together to fight this disasterous spill!
Thanks Thom for letting me promote this event on the show!
Also, I have many people in the area who would like to volunteer in cleaning up the spill, but we need someone to come down and train them! We can provide the location / classrooms! If you know someone who can help, please contact me at themayberrylane@live.com, on my blog at www.themayberrylane.blogspot.com, or on twitter @MayberryLaneD!
If you can't make it tonight, light a candle for us at 7pm EST!
@mstaggerlee, I believe in this quote by Ms Cannato vision deals with ideas for the present and the future. If we want to move forward for a better world, we will need ideas to be inclusive for the world population to benefit in God's gifts that He has given to us. His gifts must not benefit the few who are well healed with money and possessions.
While there may be some negligence as to the cause of the blowout, a lack of a safety shut-off was merely BP following the law.
Their legal mandate is to maximize profits. An acoustic shut-off valve would lower profits. Isn't that why we have regulatory guidelines? They enable a corporation to adhere to the legal mandate to maximize profits...within a framework.
I hate to say it, but BP was merely following the law as it currently exists.
@suzyc, re:#'s 28 & 30 - As George Carlin pointed out several years ago, regardless of what horrors we may perpetrate upon her, sooner or later (on a geological time scale), Mother Earth will be JUST FINE. All this "save the planet" stuff is a buncha crap ... what we're really saying, when we say that is "Save the People!", cuz it's them (and the rest of the animal kingdom) who we're REALLY doing damage to.
Kudos on being in a writing group. Are you interested in writing for some online publications for at least some nominal income? Let me know if you are and I can post some places for you to submit some writing samples too. I have just begin this and it is a great way to extend our wishes for a new world.
If you watch the infamous BP/Hayward appology video, there is a scene that shows them shoveling bails of hay on the beach.
Problem is, hay can only absorb "refined" (or thinned) oil, not this unrefined thick tar-like goop that's belching up out of that breach. So hay really isn't a solution to cleaning up this spill (unless you thin the oil using millions of gallons of toxic "dispersants" (that hay doesn't absorb). And I don't think anyone wants that.
Written in my writing group 5/31/2010. It's an expression of grief for our planet, which I have felt since I was a small child and first noticed how much of our mother earth we have covered with asphalt. "How can she breathe?" I wondered. This bit of creative writing is in direct response to the BP OIL DISASTER.
He splashed her singing in the sunshine as she planted her flowers, weaving some of the blossoms into a headdress where they wiggled as she moved in the breeze, mesmerizing, fascinating. He was water; she was earth, multiplying and rooting seeds within her rocky, but friendly breast. She was a beautiful planet, a world unto herself, gliding through her path in her place in the starlit universe. She was draped in blue, white, green and brown, innocent and unbroken. If only she could have stayed that way, listening to the music of the spheres, praising from the heart of her a never ending song.
“Enumerate my children,” she cried. “So many you have never seen, shaped to infinite size both large and small, all, all of you my children. Each giving way to the next in the dance of creation. And now you, my human children have wounded me in my side, poisoning my lover water and killing my sea children and bird children and soon, soon even yourselves IN YOUR RUSH TO BE THE FIRST OF MY CHILDREN TO CONSCIOUSLY CHOOSE THE HOUR OF YOUR OWN DEPARTURE. You will leave me riven and macerated; what will be left of me when you are gone? I, I who have given you all I had in the miracle of my own creation and placement in this amazing universe.”
We knew it was coming and now we have a chance to stop it dead in its tracks. Soon, the Senate will vote on Senator Lisa Murkowski's Dirty Air Act -- a measure that will prevent the EPA from regulating greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act.
Why does this matter to us? Well, written by polluter lobbyists, this Dirty Air Act is nothing more than a "Big Oil Bailout" for Senator Murkowski's energy industry allies.
It's their way of escaping the rules and regulations that are critical to moving us towards a Clean Energy economy - an economy less dependent on oil, much of which we buy from regimes that support our enemies, and terrorism.
Make no mistake - Iraq and Afghanistan veterans want a Clean Energy economy. In a poll conducted of mostly Republican veterans, nearly 80 percent of them said our addition to oil threatened our security, and about three-quarters of them wanted to pass the Clean Energy bill, right now.
Your help is urgently needed to stop it. The vote will be close. Our efforts will be pivotal. Your voice needs to be heard.
Call your senators and tell them to vote "NO" on Senator Murkowski's Big Oil Bailout?
In the wake of the worst oil spill in U.S. history, and with oil money continuing to flow to those who would do us harm every day, the nation wants more accountability - not less.
Sincerely, Jon Soltz Iraq War Veteran Chairman, VoteVets.org
Want Clean Energy Economy? Call every Californian you know and make sure they are voting for Proposition 15 Clean 'Fair' Elections Act
Proponents of Proposition 15 point out the main reason for this wide gulch between what the public wants and what the public gets in the solar and other sectors of society, is that big moneyed corporations pay lobbyists to walk the halls of elected representatives, monopolize their schedules, and influence, and even assist in writing legislative hurdles for their clean energy competitors.
Moreover, given the most recent Citizen’s United v FCC Supreme Court 2010 Ruling, corporations are now persons and therefore have more than the same free speech rights as natural persons. Now there will be no limit on how much money fossil fuel and nuclear industries will be able to spend to drown out the voices of renewable energy advocates agrees Hartmann, taking the call of Craig Dunkerley from the California Fair Elections Act on the daily Thom Hartmann Show aired in San Francisco on Green960, AM960 on the radio dial. This is consistent with what Hartmann writes in his newly updated to be released from San Francisco Publisher Berrett-Koehler, Unequal Protection, 2010.
@Scooty, re:#8 - I don't see anywhere on the Petersen site that says this method works, or has even been tested, underwater. I've heard lots of "THIS is the solution!" over the last several weeks, but each one I hear seems to be something that has worked on a LAND-based well before. This one is a whole new animal, and we've seen MANY TIMES so far that what's worked in different situations ain't gonna cut it in this one.
The new exploits of Representative Marcia Fudge (D-OH) may bear watching. . . http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/nothing-to-see-here-supporters-of-plan-to-limit-ethics-panel-lay-low.php
Thom - I received a flyer in the mail yesterday titled “Vote Democratic” sent out by The Team for Democratic Voters. It’s promoted as a guide to take with you to the polls. It looks like it’s from an official Democratic organization, all the office holders are correct. The problem is the flyer endorses ballot positions opposite of what progressives support. Any chance you can alert California voters about this deception.
RE; RFK killing; recently-released audio recordings show 14 shots from at least 2 guns were fired, 6 more bullets than Sirhan's gun held. Also, re: the .22 caliber pistol Thane Cesar claimed he sold before the shooting, he actually sold it months after the shooting.
rladlof
Good response.
I understand what you are saying and have heard it too. But I don't underestimate our human ability to find a way to waste this planet altogether or at least the lovely concatenation of serendipity that allowed life to develop here. Truth to tell, she may be better off without us.
Dewey, Cheetum and Howe, was used back in the 30's with the 3 Stooges, and I have no doubt that it has roots in Vaudeville.
N
Thanks guys and gals. I realized that I was becoming border-line snotty and just wanted to make sure that I was not being a total asshat . . . My actual response to FreeRider's post was:
"Are you Senator Harry Reid? I could understand the levels of anger you expressing if you were being called out on your personal piss-poor performance and could not face your personal ineffective career . . . If you are not Senator Reid, I suggest you consider spending time with an anger management specialist.
Back to point: Who is whining? I am flat-out stating that while Senator Reid appears to be a good Senator, he is spectacularly bad at being Majority Leader. I stand on the facts and I am NOT sorry if the truth offends you.
Seriously, I conceded the student loan thingy and retracted the spineless comment. It is not my fault that once spineless is taken off the table, we are left debating whether Senator Reid is spectacularly crappy at his day job or simply criminally negligent. I willingly give Senator Reid the benefit of the doubt and fiat the decision that his ineptness is not intentional malfeasance.
At this point I find myself having to apologize for appearing contrarian but . . . While you, personally, may have little use for someone willing to express fact-based truth to you, I am not worthless to my family and I act in a responsible manner to support them. Additionally, as for your attempted slur labeling me being a “tweezers-dick”, I need to let you know that I am more of a pencil-prick.
BTW you never answered my question: Should I run for office?
The only way we can ensure that BP pay's the adequate price, is to transform our energy resources from fossil to renewable. Plain and simple.
N
MoveOn.Org Oil Spill Vigil's TONIGHT!
Tonight's Vigils will be held throughout the country to mark the 50th day of the ongoing oil spill in the Gulf. I'll be personally hosting the event in Dania Beach, FL. I'd love to see some of you come out and join us as we show Washington we want an end to our oil addiction! You can sign up for my event here! http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/event.html?event_id=104025
If you're not in the area, you can find an event near you at http://www.moveon.org/ or if you're unable to attend, there are links on that site to some great organizations you can donate to!
I'd like to personally thank the City of Dania Beach, and Kristen Jones of the Parks & Recreations Department for making my event possible! They've proven we can all stand together to fight this disasterous spill!
Thanks Thom for letting me promote this event on the show!
Also, I have many people in the area who would like to volunteer in cleaning up the spill, but we need someone to come down and train them! We can provide the location / classrooms! If you know someone who can help, please contact me at themayberrylane@live.com, on my blog at www.themayberrylane.blogspot.com, or on twitter @MayberryLaneD!
If you can't make it tonight, light a candle for us at 7pm EST!
Thanks!
@mstaggerlee, I believe in this quote by Ms Cannato vision deals with ideas for the present and the future. If we want to move forward for a better world, we will need ideas to be inclusive for the world population to benefit in God's gifts that He has given to us. His gifts must not benefit the few who are well healed with money and possessions.
While there may be some negligence as to the cause of the blowout, a lack of a safety shut-off was merely BP following the law.
Their legal mandate is to maximize profits. An acoustic shut-off valve would lower profits. Isn't that why we have regulatory guidelines? They enable a corporation to adhere to the legal mandate to maximize profits...within a framework.
I hate to say it, but BP was merely following the law as it currently exists.
@suzyc, re:#'s 28 & 30 - As George Carlin pointed out several years ago, regardless of what horrors we may perpetrate upon her, sooner or later (on a geological time scale), Mother Earth will be JUST FINE. All this "save the planet" stuff is a buncha crap ... what we're really saying, when we say that is "Save the People!", cuz it's them (and the rest of the animal kingdom) who we're REALLY doing damage to.
@Maxrot:
Perhaps I should have said "Cheney pushed the the big red button but it took 10 years for the first peice of "nukular" schrapnal to hit us"
Did you know it was World Ocean Day today?
http://www.un.org/Depts/los/reference_files/worldoceansday.htm
re#24: The bullet may have just hit us, but it hit Nigeria and other countries back then.
Susy,
Kudos on being in a writing group. Are you interested in writing for some online publications for at least some nominal income? Let me know if you are and I can post some places for you to submit some writing samples too. I have just begin this and it is a great way to extend our wishes for a new world.
Lament for a Dying Planet
I guess that's what I could call it. susyc
They're already using hay.
If you watch the infamous BP/Hayward appology video, there is a scene that shows them shoveling bails of hay on the beach.
Problem is, hay can only absorb "refined" (or thinned) oil, not this unrefined thick tar-like goop that's belching up out of that breach. So hay really isn't a solution to cleaning up this spill (unless you thin the oil using millions of gallons of toxic "dispersants" (that hay doesn't absorb). And I don't think anyone wants that.
@Gerald, re:#20 -
With all due respect to Ms. Cannato, I think Robert Hunter & Jerry Garcia expressed the same thought more succinctly -
"Trouble with you
Is the trouble with me
Got 2 good eyes
But we still don't see"
Planetary Grief.
Written in my writing group 5/31/2010. It's an expression of grief for our planet, which I have felt since I was a small child and first noticed how much of our mother earth we have covered with asphalt. "How can she breathe?" I wondered. This bit of creative writing is in direct response to the BP OIL DISASTER.
He splashed her singing in the sunshine as she planted her flowers, weaving some of the blossoms into a headdress where they wiggled as she moved in the breeze, mesmerizing, fascinating. He was water; she was earth, multiplying and rooting seeds within her rocky, but friendly breast. She was a beautiful planet, a world unto herself, gliding through her path in her place in the starlit universe. She was draped in blue, white, green and brown, innocent and unbroken. If only she could have stayed that way, listening to the music of the spheres, praising from the heart of her a never ending song.
“Enumerate my children,” she cried. “So many you have never seen, shaped to infinite size both large and small, all, all of you my children. Each giving way to the next in the dance of creation. And now you, my human children have wounded me in my side, poisoning my lover water and killing my sea children and bird children and soon, soon even yourselves IN YOUR RUSH TO BE THE FIRST OF MY CHILDREN TO CONSCIOUSLY CHOOSE THE HOUR OF YOUR OWN DEPARTURE. You will leave me riven and macerated; what will be left of me when you are gone? I, I who have given you all I had in the miracle of my own creation and placement in this amazing universe.”
Susy Crandall, Albuquerque, NM
Dear VoteVets.org Supporter,
We knew it was coming and now we have a chance to stop it dead in its tracks. Soon, the Senate will vote on Senator Lisa Murkowski's Dirty Air Act -- a measure that will prevent the EPA from regulating greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act.
Call your senators and tell them to vote "NO" on Senator Murkowski's Big Oil Bailout known as the Dirty Air Act?
Why does this matter to us? Well, written by polluter lobbyists, this Dirty Air Act is nothing more than a "Big Oil Bailout" for Senator Murkowski's energy industry allies.
It's their way of escaping the rules and regulations that are critical to moving us towards a Clean Energy economy - an economy less dependent on oil, much of which we buy from regimes that support our enemies, and terrorism.
Make no mistake - Iraq and Afghanistan veterans want a Clean Energy economy. In a poll conducted of mostly Republican veterans, nearly 80 percent of them said our addition to oil threatened our security, and about three-quarters of them wanted to pass the Clean Energy bill, right now.
Your help is urgently needed to stop it. The vote will be close. Our efforts will be pivotal. Your voice needs to be heard.
Call your senators and tell them to vote "NO" on Senator Murkowski's Big Oil Bailout?
In the wake of the worst oil spill in U.S. history, and with oil money continuing to flow to those who would do us harm every day, the nation wants more accountability - not less.
Sincerely,
Jon Soltz
Iraq War Veteran
Chairman, VoteVets.org
@newtrev, I agree, I just wonder if you realize like I do, Cheney was sitting behind a machine gun when he pulled the trigger.
N
Want Clean Energy Economy? Call every Californian you know and make sure they are voting for Proposition 15 Clean 'Fair' Elections Act
Proponents of Proposition 15 point out the main reason for this wide gulch between what the public wants and what the public gets in the solar and other sectors of society, is that big moneyed corporations pay lobbyists to walk the halls of elected representatives, monopolize their schedules, and influence, and even assist in writing legislative hurdles for their clean energy competitors.
Moreover, given the most recent Citizen’s United v FCC Supreme Court 2010 Ruling, corporations are now persons and therefore have more than the same free speech rights as natural persons. Now there will be no limit on how much money fossil fuel and nuclear industries will be able to spend to drown out the voices of renewable energy advocates agrees Hartmann, taking the call of Craig Dunkerley from the California Fair Elections Act on the daily Thom Hartmann Show aired in San Francisco on Green960, AM960 on the radio dial. This is consistent with what Hartmann writes in his newly updated to be released from San Francisco Publisher Berrett-Koehler, Unequal Protection, 2010.
The article continues here-
http://www.examiner.com/x-50672-SF-Solar-Energy-Examiner
Two things have occured to me recently about this oil gusher:
This is the Earth's 9/11 but the Goverment and most of the media are reacting like it is a "no fault" car accident.
Dick Cheny pullged the trigger, it just took 10 years for the Bullet to hit!
@Scooty, re:#8 - I don't see anywhere on the Petersen site that says this method works, or has even been tested, underwater. I've heard lots of "THIS is the solution!" over the last several weeks, but each one I hear seems to be something that has worked on a LAND-based well before. This one is a whole new animal, and we've seen MANY TIMES so far that what's worked in different situations ain't gonna cut it in this one.