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re; #73: you can opt out and go fight in Afghanistan..
Oy not mandatory voting, puh-leeze. Hopefully at least there will be some kind of conscientious objector provision.
@WASanford You're pointing the finger of blame at the wrong target. What most Californians who complain about our referendum system don't recognize are the benefits of being able to enact laws that our legislature won't touch. There have also been failings within the referendum system that need to be addressed too; as in the ability for a constitutionally unsound amendment to make it to the ballot without passing through our state legislature for oversight ensuring constitutional soundness first, as is required (Prop 8).
I have been saying for a while now that our referendum system simply needs to be reformed. Much like corporations are claiming (and everything from the courts to Congress has been granting them) personhood along with all the rights that go with it, they had long ago decided that they also had a "right" to referendum - which was clearly initiated for The People!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Johnson
Just like we need to take away corporations' "rights" to things that ONLY people should be entitled to, so should we take away their right to referendum. It's really that simple.
I want MORE voter responsibility, not less. Let's not cater our elections to those who do NOT participate, but to honor those who DO. If some poison pills are what it takes to get people to the polls, so be it. I'm personally for mandatory voting. And I'm not about to abandon direct democracy because of corporate corruption; it's the equivalent of giving up our government to them IMO.
re #67: distilled spirits?
@n8chz Thanks for the link.
I've been involved in a very long conversation with my friend. It's been obvious that he searches for any information that supports his delusions about societies.
The issue is that a crap-load of atheists are so as a reaction formation to religiosity and not due to non-belief in a deity or external guiding force/entity.
That's why I'm a Jew . . . We pray to an empty room and belief is not required, only actions matter.
My fellow Californian's...
We need to follow Carly F. around with signs reading: "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore. We have to compete for jobs as a nation." And remind people just how she trashed HP and how many jobs she outsourced to China and India. Whenever Thom trashes Apple for manufacturing in China (and other countries) at least when you call Customer Service and Tech Support, the person you're talking to is more than likely an American (last couple of people I spoke to have been in Elk Grove, California)!
I suppose if I had to distill my religion worldview down to one word (or one and a half words) it would be non-Christian.
Hitchens' atheism is not a religion, but his neoconservatism is.
By Thom's definition, I think Atheism can be either defined as a religion or a cult.
Not sure however that I'm entirely comfy with my fellow secularists working within the 'faith-based' system; legitimizing the idea that there's 'something for everyone' in that particular paradigm.
That is the 613 Divine Commandments (Mitzvahs) and the Ten Statements . . . and the Seven Noahide Laws . . .
The secular students deserve our support.
BP bought, paidfor
Gerald, didn't you ever read the footnotes of the 10 Commandments?
C'mon, Thom - we KNOW why the media doesn't call it BP's disaster anymore - they've been bought and paid for BY BP!
@mstaggerlee, if religion is the opiate of the masses, then I'm guessing television is the crack of the masses, and crack addicts are even easier to manipulate by their pushers.
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Newt the Gingrich's Contract on America . . .
@harry ashburn, what is the fine print in the contract?
One in four REPUBLICANS (almost 370K) voted for Oily Taint , , , Sorry, I think I misspelled that . . . Yep, sorry . . . Orly Taitz to be the Republican nominee for California’s Secretary of State in the general election. 3/4 of Republicans not for the other guy BUT against her . . .
The Unions did use their money to fight a Republican...
re: #52: same reason the stock market goes up everytime there are layoffs.
Obama is not a socialist!!! What is he? Weak? Clueless? Non-leader? Loser? I have some thoughts about him but my thoughts are all negative toward Obama.
How on Earth can the woman who PERSONNALLY laid off half of Silicon Valley win a statewide election in California?
You may be right about that self-hate thing, radlof.
Gerald, Yes, God works in mysterious ways. that's why you gotta read the fine print in the contract. :)