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At a time when all working class citizens should be in the streets rioting because of past free trade deals, our President, a "Democrat," is pushing for another. My theory: A while back Obama had a beer with Boehner at the clubhouse after playing golf, and that beer was laced with a right wing stupid pill....the Fascists will stop at nothing.
Any Democrat that supports the TPP needs to be run out of office...I'm truly flabbergasted by it all.
I hope that the citizens of this country get loud about this trade agreement. Make our voice heard in every way we can. We don't want this hellacious agreement. Stop it, just like we did the key stone pipe line. Neither are needed by this country.
President Obama's dishonestly promoted (and UNCONSTITUTIONAL) TPP/TTIP/TiSA "trade agreement" initiatives will impoverish and/or KILL at least 200 million people worldwide (including at least half of the population of the United States) by authorizing multinational corporations and investors to sue (at US taxpayer expense) all three levels of our government for any law, regulation, or court decision made my our elected representatives in those governments that infrincges on the "future expected profits" of those corporations or investors. If passed, that would make President Obama the DEADLIEST MAN ON EARTH so far in this century!
History has clearly shown (especially in Latin American and African contries) that those multinational corporations don't really give a damn how many people they impoverish and/or kill in order to "maximize their profits!"
whatever Obama's 'errors in judgement on TPP He has done much to bring us back from Bush Cheney 8 years 2008 Global crash - lossing 700 K jobs PER MONTH at end of Bush term- trying to CUT SS an earned benefit- womens right to chose which GOP hates - Ledbetter law- ACA which can become Medicare for ALL if we demand it- GOP policies- corp cuts- loopholes & subsides- 2 long failed wars based on fear tactics, lies and war profiteering - far right wing anti middle class pro wealth ( Citizens United ) Supreme court- We must NOT allow anymore far Right wing juidges who have and will kill off the middle class ! Their terms are for life Their harm will last many years Think about GOP policies- debt- corp cuts- corp loopholes- - anti birth control policies BEFORE YOU VOTE !!
Wicked Sorcerers
{… a limerick …}
Like a wicked sorcerer’s magic,
the Right conjures spirits tragic
which {tragedy-like} trag-e-deely
make us queasy-{feeling}-feely,
as on an ocean of motions pelagic.
{“pelagic” = on the rolling waters of a roiling sea}
. . . .
http://barfblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/vomit-cruise.jpg
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karksweet, I only wish that what you are saying is true and I do hope that Obama proves me totally wrong and DOES NOT sign TPP but I'm afraid that big money has already bought and paid for him and he has grown accustomed to the lifestyle and wants it to go on. It will for him and his ilk - but for the rest of us, we are screwed. Won't be a big thing for me since I'm at the end of my life but I do fear for my grown children, grand children and great grandchildren. Had I only had 20/20 hindsight don't know that I would have ever brought children into this world to have to live the upcoming master/slave relationsip TPP would bring about. Ask Australia and Japan about the WTO and how it has affected them. Don't believe in religion so can't say I pray it doesn't happen but I'll just email, call, write and hope beyond hope that it doesn't. Please, President Obama, prove me totally wrong!
TPP NAFTA CITIZENS ALL HORRID FOR AMERICA
Tell Obama before its too late www.whitehouse.gov/contact
NO TPP 202 456 1111 M-F to 5 pm
Ah, I think Obama's vetoing the KYL was a token to the people making them think he is going to go big and do the same with TPP. Don't think so. Just a smokescreen. Don't believe that man behind the curtain.
Bernie has spoken over and over again against TPP and TiSA and how horrible it will be for our country but he is not taken seriously. I don't know know how much more he can do when no networks will air his speaches and give him so little air time. Hillary has the market with networks sewn up.
Right now Hillary is backtracking and revoking all she said before about what she did then but now wants to be Berniesque - it doesn't work, Hillary!! - but if she is elected she will revert so fast that we will all be spinning.
I'm afraid that it is already a done deal and no one will vote against it - especially our president because he has been bought out. Time to pay up for favors done and now to go on to living the good life after he leaves office. IF (when?) he signs this monstrosity into law he officially becomes a TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
The most interesting thing about the link at post #8 for me was this:
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The share of independents in the public, which long agosurpassed the percentages of either Democrats or Republicans, continues to increase. Based on 2014 data, 39% identify as independents, 32% as Democrats and 23% as Republicans. This is the highest percentage of independents in more than 75 years of public opinion polling. (For a timeline of party affiliation among the public since 1939, see this interactive feature.)
When the partisan leanings of independents are taken into account, 48% either identify as Democrats or lean Democratic; 39% identify as Republicans or lean Republican. The gap in leaned party affiliation has held fairly steady since 2009, when Democrats held a 13-point advantage (50% to 37%)."
They try to play off the 4% increase in those "leaning" Republican since 2009. That fact plus the increase in those claiming to be Ind. may partially explain these figures from Sunday's "Meet the Press", since 2009 Dem's, under Obama's hegemony have lost 13 Senate seats, 69 House seats, 12 governorships, 30 State chambers and 900+ legislative seats. Those figures approach negative records set by Nixon/Ford after Watergate, Eisenhour and all the way back to Woodrow Wilson's era of futility.
I'm not sure what the last caller was really getting at but this should help us understand it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_inference
Is it possible that Obama is throwing himself on his sword by supporting the TPP, in order to get the republican congress to do their typical thing of voting against everything he proposes?
Hopefully Obama isn’t a full "Insider" and isn't as corrupt as he appears. Hopefully he’s doing the only thing he can in order to kill the TPP. I would agree that its heart wrenching to see him vote the opposite on other issues he campaigned For. Hopefully he knows (better than us) somehow and sees something that changes the necessary timing for our Progressive issues to actually pass… (maybe that would be a few more warm hearted humans in Congress)?
These agreements are scary. For example, Obama just declined The Keystone pipeline. Because he has no reason to do so other then political as it has passed all the environmental tests this is a direct violation of NAFTA. Any day now TransCanada will be launching a 2 billion dollar law suit that you the tax payer will be stuck with. Get your check book out.
Bernie should take up TPP as his main issue and be very loud about it. A quixotic, third party campaign may not have much chance of wining but what it is he can and ought to do is conduct a public education campaign on the issues.
With the underhanded ways that Hillary is campaigning I will not vote for her if she is nominated. I couldn't hold my nose that tightly.
No way should anyone like her EVER be president. I may even vote for her opponent, especially if it's Trump.
Reply to #5: AnneMarie, bingo! Not everything belongs in the marketplace. To put it another way: those basics you refer to, the things we all depend on just to function, comprise the foundation needed for anyone to get ahead. You can't build a prosperous, successful, happy life out of nothing. Once these essentials fall into private hands, it's game over; we're screwed.
Tell Obama now NO TPP www.whitehouse.gov
Billionaires, Multi national Corps / Wall St Banks / Lobbyists run ( own ) the USA
Take our POWER back !!
Don't take this as an anti-Hillary sentiment because if she gets the nomination, I will vote for her in the national election, but this article sums up pretty nicely Mrs. Clinton's role in getting the TPP written as well as fact-checking her own comments after the fact:
"Clinton Deserves Credit For Negotiating the TPP and Her Direct Involvement Made It What It Is"
Regarding Keystone:
They’ll Get it Yet
{... a limerick ...}
Pols will continue to fiddle
with a Keystone right down our middle.
It ain’t over yet; -
- they’ll ultimately get
permission to our land and air diddle.
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The TPP makes me sick.
It is so disheartening to be so deeply betrayed by our leaders who are supposed to represent us.
Obama who was really none other than fascism's trojan horse.
I can only wonder if the TPP doesn't have something to do with Heinz's decision to close it's Oscar Mayer business unit in Madison, WI a move that cost the area 100's of jobs.
The Tea Party’s Obituary
{… a rhyme …}
May it be soon that we read
an item pleasurable indeed: -
- the Tea Party’s o-bit-chu-ary.
They’ve many a glitch, - the very
epitome of what we don’t need.
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MUCH-more-valuable are your shows when they don’t feature the “Rumble”-Rightists’ distractions.
’Til blue-in-the-face: - through decades of college-teaching, I tried to show studes that “socialism” can accomplish Much of what they want, AND that corporations-and-middle-class {and indeed the nation-as-a-whole} BENEFIT from much of what they disparage as being “socialistic”.
No, no one is freaked out. A good chunk of the population already knows that Democrats will likely lose 2016 regardless, having alienated masses of those who had voted for Obama. The years of this administration have been devoted to promoting middle class elitism (and to hell with the poor). Meanwhile, Democrats have remained focused on phasing out Social Security for disabled workers.
Since the Clinton administration, it has consistently been Democrats who have targeted the poor, the elderly poor, and the disabled. It's just too great a risk for those who aren't as well off as middle class, to vote for Democrats again.
Educate about what, specifically? America's "plummet" has nothing to do with immigrants or refugees, and it was started back in the 1980s. Are middle classers even aware of the degree to which the US has stripped impoverished Americans of their fundamental human and legal rights? Not likely. Middle class myopia has ruled ever since the Clinton administration. Note that we now have a prison system that makes the old Soviet gulag look puny in comparison. This is what the middle class demanded for years. Meanwhile, a steadily growing portion of our jobs are now being done by cheap prison labor. It''s cheaper for corporations than moving jobs to foreign countries, but it also requires a steadily-growing prison population.