Marc I am not saying there has been no climate change. The earths climate is always changing. It has been for millions of years. We have always had all of the disasters you mention. We have only been recording them for a few hundred years. What I am having a hard time with is that car exhaust is causing it. What caused the heat wave in the thirties? There was no cars. The final straw was the commerical showing polar bears drowning because the ice was melting. Come on please don't insult those magnificent creatures. It never happened and was a complete lie. So what can I believe? Like I just said the whole hockey stick theory that started this was made up with in correct data. What scares me the most is there is no debate. That always means someone is hiding something.
Preventing and controlling new diseases that pop up because of global warming is not going to be easy because controlling global warming is not going to be easy. The biggest problem is greed. Yes, greed, because the wealthy people who keep making more and more money fron coal, crude, and gas are not going to slow down production, promotion, and sales of these fuels. These fuels put megatons of carbon atoms into the worldwide atmosphere every year and carbon atoms and methane atoms hold in the heat that comes from the sun. The fuel wealthy may may actually not believe this otherwise common knowlage because their greed overpowers their ability to understand that what they are doing is destroying the planet. If the fuel industry converted to the no carbon energy industry like the washing machine and auto industry converted to the war industry for WWII, human caused global warming would stop, giving the human species more time on this Earth. Wind and solar power production needs to be speeded up like Lucy and Ethel's chocolate conveyer belt. There's really only one thing that can make humans stop polluting the atmosphere and that is law and to change law, lawmakers that side with the polluters must be changed. Stop atmospheric pollution, stop global warming, and the spredding of new diseases caused by global warming stops.
Kend ~ You might be right when you say that you're not seeing Global Warming play out as predicted. However, you would have your head in a hole if you didn't see any kind of Climate Change. We have snow, floods, droughts, tornadoes, hurricanes, and cyclones like never before all over the globe. I think bobcox's contention about recurring ice ages makes a lot of sense. Super winters that have blanketed much of North America under snow should be a concern for everyone. The same type of condition threatens most of Europe. We know from geological study that North America was covered by a mile high ice sheet before. Canada too. That is how we got the Great Lakes you know. If such an era was to repeat itself, the seas would recede not raise. Of course, it probably won't happen during our lifetimes; or, will it? In either case, you won't believe anything is going on until it's over. Happy hopeful thinking! Cheers!
Chuckle 8. I think it is dying out because none of this stuff ever happens. Mr Gore said by now water levels would be seven inches higher. Green houses gases would be tens times higher then they are. We have spent trillions and it hasn't done a thing. The hockey stick theory that started the whole thing was made up with incorrect data. I could go on for hours.
I may be wrong but where I live in Canada and I see no change at all. The air is clean, the water is sparking clean. It's cold in the winter and warm in the summer. Temperatures have been changing for millions of years. It is natural.
Marc i know it's a miracle I am still alive. I lived through a hole in the ozone layer burning me to death. I lived through the seventies when we where all going to freeze to death because the earth was cooling so fast the same scientist wanted to spray insulation to cover the Artic.
It just seems the boy has cried wolf way too many times.
Reminds me of the only truly frightening horror film I have ever seen: Thaw (2009), in which global warming demonstrates that it truly is terminal climate change by releasing prehistoric parasites that feed on all mammalian life. (I am not a horror-movie fan -- jeer at most such films -- but saw this one night on cable TV and got into before I realized what it was, then stayed aboard.) VERY scary!
bobcox ~ I think it's fairly obvious what we should do. What we should have done a very long time ago. We must learn to control the size of our population. It really is not a relevant argument whether the world can sustain 7 Billion, 9 Billion, or for that matter 10 Trillion people. All we have to agree upon is the fact that there is not an infinite amount of people that can live on the world. It is not possible, practical or preferable to push the limit. Therefore, it is necessary to control and maintain a steady number. That is the only logical solution. That is the only practical approach. Until we adopt a functional method of controlling and maintaining our population, the human race is doomed to a very uncomfortable future with very dire consequences. That is a fact!
Quote Kend:Wow Thom. This is a real stretch. Is the global warming threat dying out that badly. This is the best you can scare us with.
Kend ~ Don't be frightened. You'll have plenty of warning before those nasty little viruses get to you. Plenty of time to move yourself and your family to your underground plastic bubble. The crisis will be over in a million years or so. We'll send you a text message when its safe to come up.
bobcox -- You should read the series of articles on food in National Geographic from last year. Some of the things they describe could provide calories for many more than 9 billion. One of things I remember is that farm fishing is running at 1% of its capacity. Of course, global warming could wipe out all we have currently. The uncertainty is so large I would not be worrying about 9 billion or 18 billion. I would worry about the uncertainty.
Today's myopic attitude regarding climate change will be viewed by future generations as an unforgiveable act of selfishness and greed, and with this a few familiar names will go down in infamy......maybe even some of the never-before-seen deadly pathogens will be named after the Carbon Barrons.
Robert Ardery, in his last book on anthropology, suggested that the next big change in the series of human-like development might be caused by an Ice age. The ice-age or the change in the climate such as global warming might be the cause of the decimation of the human population on Earth. The absolute carrying capacity of Earth with equal distribution of calories has been estimated to be slightly oiver 9 billion. We will reach that poplulation very shortly, possibly before I die, and the Earth cannot survive that situkation. Man may destroy all of us before then. Whkat should our policy be at this time? We need to determine a sound, scientific, policy for sustainable life forms.
I had two seizures today and I have never had a seizure in my life
I dont have regular health insurance because medicaid did not expand in the state of florida so even if they find out why I have no way to get a consult outside of the hospital. Untreated heart failure and lupus wreaked havoc all over my body and I am now having seizures. I had one the middle of an actual examination
Think it did not matter that the republican house got relelected and is denying almost a million people in Florida healthcare? It mattered to me. It mattered to my kids
The discussion on stocks used the word investment. Except for the IPO, money paid for a stock does not go to the company and therefore has no relation to "job making." This is a major capitalist myth! (Lie?)
You said that for the loyall citizenry who supported the Nazi's durring WWII they needed to be made to face what it was the Nazi's did. I feel that we face a similar circumstance here in the US. I suspect very very few of those loyal to Conservetivism are aware of what those who use the Republican Party are up to. I further suspect that many who call themselves Conservetives, (especially those who primarily get their news from Fox for instance), will re-think their position if exposed to irefutable truths. I think no less of my fellow Americans who are bamboozeled by corporate news than I do of those German citizens who were equally bamboozeled by the Nazi propaganda machine prior to and during WWII.
I would like to propose to you that you dedicate one day per month, (weekly if successful), to an honest chat on your show strictly to Consevetive Americans. The goal of course is to educate, to enlighten and to debunk. With a bit of marketing on your end, I believe, (hope), that you may be able to build a following among the Conservetive community large enough to sustain such a show.
A little gratitude can go a long way. Any time anyone is giving something to someone else, a "thank you" is in order. Not a "gimme" or "try harder" or "you're racist".
An excellent way to show gratitude is assimilation. If you want the benefits of a culture - like the social safety net - you should also take the parts of the culture you don't like - the language and customs.
Living in Chicago, I know a lot of immigrants. We all get along just fine, because we have a shared culture now. Sure, some people still speak their native languages, and some people still wear the traditional clothes of their country. But for the most part, most of the immigrants I encounter every day do their best to blend in.
That might be unique to the big city though. We're kind of expected to be more accepting of different people here. It's more "cosmopolitan" that way. Very few of us - myself included - actually grew up here. We all moved here to make money. Can't blame people for that.
Marc I am not saying there has been no climate change. The earths climate is always changing. It has been for millions of years. We have always had all of the disasters you mention. We have only been recording them for a few hundred years. What I am having a hard time with is that car exhaust is causing it. What caused the heat wave in the thirties? There was no cars. The final straw was the commerical showing polar bears drowning because the ice was melting. Come on please don't insult those magnificent creatures. It never happened and was a complete lie. So what can I believe? Like I just said the whole hockey stick theory that started this was made up with in correct data. What scares me the most is there is no debate. That always means someone is hiding something.
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Preventing and controlling new diseases that pop up because of global warming is not going to be easy because controlling global warming is not going to be easy. The biggest problem is greed. Yes, greed, because the wealthy people who keep making more and more money fron coal, crude, and gas are not going to slow down production, promotion, and sales of these fuels. These fuels put megatons of carbon atoms into the worldwide atmosphere every year and carbon atoms and methane atoms hold in the heat that comes from the sun. The fuel wealthy may may actually not believe this otherwise common knowlage because their greed overpowers their ability to understand that what they are doing is destroying the planet. If the fuel industry converted to the no carbon energy industry like the washing machine and auto industry converted to the war industry for WWII, human caused global warming would stop, giving the human species more time on this Earth. Wind and solar power production needs to be speeded up like Lucy and Ethel's chocolate conveyer belt. There's really only one thing that can make humans stop polluting the atmosphere and that is law and to change law, lawmakers that side with the polluters must be changed. Stop atmospheric pollution, stop global warming, and the spredding of new diseases caused by global warming stops.
Kend ~ You might be right when you say that you're not seeing Global Warming play out as predicted. However, you would have your head in a hole if you didn't see any kind of Climate Change. We have snow, floods, droughts, tornadoes, hurricanes, and cyclones like never before all over the globe. I think bobcox's contention about recurring ice ages makes a lot of sense. Super winters that have blanketed much of North America under snow should be a concern for everyone. The same type of condition threatens most of Europe. We know from geological study that North America was covered by a mile high ice sheet before. Canada too. That is how we got the Great Lakes you know. If such an era was to repeat itself, the seas would recede not raise. Of course, it probably won't happen during our lifetimes; or, will it? In either case, you won't believe anything is going on until it's over. Happy hopeful thinking! Cheers!
Chuckle 8. I think it is dying out because none of this stuff ever happens. Mr Gore said by now water levels would be seven inches higher. Green houses gases would be tens times higher then they are. We have spent trillions and it hasn't done a thing. The hockey stick theory that started the whole thing was made up with incorrect data. I could go on for hours.
I may be wrong but where I live in Canada and I see no change at all. The air is clean, the water is sparking clean. It's cold in the winter and warm in the summer. Temperatures have been changing for millions of years. It is natural.
Marc i know it's a miracle I am still alive. I lived through a hole in the ozone layer burning me to death. I lived through the seventies when we where all going to freeze to death because the earth was cooling so fast the same scientist wanted to spray insulation to cover the Artic.
It just seems the boy has cried wolf way too many times.
Reminds me of the only truly frightening horror film I have ever seen: Thaw (2009), in which global warming demonstrates that it truly is terminal climate change by releasing prehistoric parasites that feed on all mammalian life. (I am not a horror-movie fan -- jeer at most such films -- but saw this one night on cable TV and got into before I realized what it was, then stayed aboard.) VERY scary!
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bobcox ~ I think it's fairly obvious what we should do. What we should have done a very long time ago. We must learn to control the size of our population. It really is not a relevant argument whether the world can sustain 7 Billion, 9 Billion, or for that matter 10 Trillion people. All we have to agree upon is the fact that there is not an infinite amount of people that can live on the world. It is not possible, practical or preferable to push the limit. Therefore, it is necessary to control and maintain a steady number. That is the only logical solution. That is the only practical approach. Until we adopt a functional method of controlling and maintaining our population, the human race is doomed to a very uncomfortable future with very dire consequences. That is a fact!
Kend ~ Don't be frightened. You'll have plenty of warning before those nasty little viruses get to you. Plenty of time to move yourself and your family to your underground plastic bubble. The crisis will be over in a million years or so. We'll send you a text message when its safe to come up.
I think I'll watch a dumb Nicole Kidmann movie.
kend -- Why do you think the global warming threat is dying out? Thom is just adding another item to a monstrous list.
bobcox -- You should read the series of articles on food in National Geographic from last year. Some of the things they describe could provide calories for many more than 9 billion. One of things I remember is that farm fishing is running at 1% of its capacity. Of course, global warming could wipe out all we have currently. The uncertainty is so large I would not be worrying about 9 billion or 18 billion. I would worry about the uncertainty.
ct -- Are you aware of what Thom's stance is on immigration? -c8
Today's myopic attitude regarding climate change will be viewed by future generations as an unforgiveable act of selfishness and greed, and with this a few familiar names will go down in infamy......maybe even some of the never-before-seen deadly pathogens will be named after the Carbon Barrons.
We want this to be a democracy. It is our obligation to complain. -c8
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Robert Ardery, in his last book on anthropology, suggested that the next big change in the series of human-like development might be caused by an Ice age. The ice-age or the change in the climate such as global warming might be the cause of the decimation of the human population on Earth. The absolute carrying capacity of Earth with equal distribution of calories has been estimated to be slightly oiver 9 billion. We will reach that poplulation very shortly, possibly before I die, and the Earth cannot survive that situkation. Man may destroy all of us before then. Whkat should our policy be at this time? We need to determine a sound, scientific, policy for sustainable life forms.
Wow Thom. This is a real stretch. Is the global warming threat dying out that badly. This is the best you can scare us with.
Old Mother Earth is trying very hard to cure Her really bad case of "people".
She will succeed.
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I had two seizures today and I have never had a seizure in my life
I dont have regular health insurance because medicaid did not expand in the state of florida so even if they find out why I have no way to get a consult outside of the hospital. Untreated heart failure and lupus wreaked havoc all over my body and I am now having seizures. I had one the middle of an actual examination
Think it did not matter that the republican house got relelected and is denying almost a million people in Florida healthcare? It mattered to me. It mattered to my kids
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The discussion on stocks used the word investment. Except for the IPO, money paid for a stock does not go to the company and therefore has no relation to "job making." This is a major capitalist myth! (Lie?)
Thom.
You said that for the loyall citizenry who supported the Nazi's durring WWII they needed to be made to face what it was the Nazi's did. I feel that we face a similar circumstance here in the US. I suspect very very few of those loyal to Conservetivism are aware of what those who use the Republican Party are up to. I further suspect that many who call themselves Conservetives, (especially those who primarily get their news from Fox for instance), will re-think their position if exposed to irefutable truths. I think no less of my fellow Americans who are bamboozeled by corporate news than I do of those German citizens who were equally bamboozeled by the Nazi propaganda machine prior to and during WWII.
I would like to propose to you that you dedicate one day per month, (weekly if successful), to an honest chat on your show strictly to Consevetive Americans. The goal of course is to educate, to enlighten and to debunk. With a bit of marketing on your end, I believe, (hope), that you may be able to build a following among the Conservetive community large enough to sustain such a show.
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To be honest, I'd be okay if men's nipples had to be covered in public. I'll give the Montana legislator that one.
A little gratitude can go a long way. Any time anyone is giving something to someone else, a "thank you" is in order. Not a "gimme" or "try harder" or "you're racist".
An excellent way to show gratitude is assimilation. If you want the benefits of a culture - like the social safety net - you should also take the parts of the culture you don't like - the language and customs.
Living in Chicago, I know a lot of immigrants. We all get along just fine, because we have a shared culture now. Sure, some people still speak their native languages, and some people still wear the traditional clothes of their country. But for the most part, most of the immigrants I encounter every day do their best to blend in.
That might be unique to the big city though. We're kind of expected to be more accepting of different people here. It's more "cosmopolitan" that way. Very few of us - myself included - actually grew up here. We all moved here to make money. Can't blame people for that.