Yes! There are good reasons to go into Libya.
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No! We can't police the world at the expense of our children and what's left of our social safety net.
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Thom's Blog Is On the Move
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If this can help Obama get elected I am for it. I know how cynical that sounds and is. But God help us if we get a Republican president in 2012.
Thom has been telling us to take over the democratic party for some time now. To this I say why waste our time. Thom does not seem insane yet he would have us do the very definition of insanity "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. I personnally have tried this in up state New York, Seattle WA and now from abroad for better then thirty years. It's always the same thing with the democrats they say one thing to their supports and do the exact opposite when in power. At every party meeting I have ever gone to they always take a populist stance with over whelming support by the crowd. Then they stab us in the back when they go back to work. Just like only Nixon could go to China only a democrat could get rid of Glass Segal (Clinton). Only a democrat can destroy social security (Obama cuts SS tax). Thereby starving it. I am a Black man born and raised in upstate New York (getto) not someone raised by a bank president. When I was a kid I was told by my grandfathers to beware what he called house slaves they always side with the master over their own. From what I can see of this president we have a house slave and he is more dangerous then any republican because he pretends to be one of us. lets look at what this man has done since in office. 1 To big to fail caused the banking crisis. Now the big banks are even bigger. 2 He promised investigations into crimes of the Bush administration and since being elected he has given a present to Bush on the day he was sworn in and his wife has made public appearances with Mrs. Bush. 3 We were presented with a public option that could have broken the backs of insurance companies instead he makes us pay taxes to private insurance companies with a mandate he promised would not happen if we elected him. Mix this with behind close door deals with drug companies and you tell me who he's working for. Even Nancy Polosy ignored her duties in the 2006 campaign by refusing to investigate the Bush administration. Obama speaks out against corporations being people under the law in state of the union and nowing since if he really beleaved in what hes said where is the push for a constitional amendment again they say one thing and do the opposite "Obama's largest contributor Goldman Sacks.
If we are ever to see the country we all hope for we must start fighting a long term battle against the economic royalist and not just the next election were we choose the lesser of two right wing parties. The money interst and too powerful in the democratic party we need to take over a party like the greens and set up a party constitution that calls for the things we believe in. We also need to ask people like Thom who they work for when they keep giving us the same old tried and failed strategies of staying with a party that has better fulfilled the corporate agenda then even the Republican's and why is he so condensending to any one that speaks agains his approach. I was always taught that to be a good liberal (progressive) you must have an open mind Thom clearly does not posses this.
Please excuse any spelling errors had to do this quickly I am at work and my boss is a raving republican
I'm ready to vote for someone else in the primary election (not Hillary Clinton though). I'm hoping Howard Dean will run.
@ hobbies - good for you for posting your comment at work with a raving repub boss - tee hee hee - that's great!
There were some good calls on Thom's show today from people talking about the need for a peaceful revolution. I've always thought we could do it through the party system, but the Obama fiasco has shown that we do indeed need something else. The system is so deeply dysfunctional and corrupt that it simply no longer works (the way it was meant to).
I now say, along with my 21-year-old son, Bring On The Revolution! I'm ready!
I'm really torn on this one. I just don't think we can stand by and watch people get mowed down like blades of grass. Their only crime is they want to be free. 135 Million and an ancient F15 is the major cost so far. Plus, I'm sure, a few gallons of JP Jet fuel. I don't see this as an either - or situation. The cuts made by our buddies on the other side are not going to stand. In '12 they will all be looking at each other wondering what happened. I really think people will pay for the government thay want as long as they are assured fraud and waste are held to a minimum. There is on bigger place to find fraud and waste than the American military. I think we should ride this out and mark our time until we are out of Iraq, diminished in Afghanistan, and make serious cuts in the entire DOD.
Guy How right you are Walker-Christie - Pawenrty Newt / GOP are on a rampage-drunk with power - and greed. Crushing workers rights- cutting our kids education- and heat for the poor- student grants - health clinics- infrastructure- all so billionaires can get more of their precious tax cuts..
USA is always the first ones to help Give aid & cash . But This time let the Arabs and others take care of this one,
FYI Soc sec has a 2.7 trilion dollar in trust fund and can pay full benfits for next 25 + yrs.! Soc sec does NOT add a dime to the debt so do not be fooled. As jobs come back- more social security taxes & Fed taxes will come in to th treasury .but GOP is doing all they can to kill jobs so Obama loses. yes we will have to tweak social sec to make it solvent after 25- 30 yrs One great way is to Remove the 107 K cap pn soc sec tax withholding. .
Does anyone really beleive that the same government that bailed out corporations, banks and Wall Street that continues to allow banks to foreclose on working peoples homes while unemplyment is at nearly 20%, that continues to allow companies to export jobs overseas and hide their profits so they don't have to pay taxes, that continued the obscene tax cut for the rich, that recognizes corporations as people, but sees people as objects to be exploited ot thrown away when they are not needed, gives a hoot about the Libyan people?
This is manipulation - humanitarian imperialism. Quadaffi was not like Mubarek-in the pocket of the US. Whatever he is it is an internal Libyan problem. The US has NEVER intervened on the right side in any conflict. Look at Viet Nam, Chile, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Haiti, Grenada (that enormous threat-because Marice Bishop spoke English and his words couldn't be distorted.) Yugoslavia (yes, I said that.)
Wake up America. The US government cares no more about the people of Libya than it does about us. They are acting in their own self interest but not in ours. We are not one nation, we are the haves and the have nots and until we recognize that reality we(the have nots) will not get organized or get anywhere. As Mother Mary Jones said, we don't need the vote to raise hell! We don't have to wait for another election to get out there and call these people out for what they are - Capitalists who have to expand or die whether it's in Wisconsin or Libya all they want is to feed off the people.
A challenge to all good progressives and liberals out there. Lets challenge Thom and the rest of progressive talkers out there (Ed Scholtz, Norman Goldman etc. Why do they keep supporting the democrats when the last peace of progressive legislation they put out was medicare under Johnson and we had to put up with the Vietnam war and Lady Bird construction to get that. Are these talkers on the air to advance progressive values or the democratic party. While I have great admeration for all these talkers especially Thom and Norman it seems that these highly intelligent and talented people are willing to forgive any amount of betrayal from this turncoat party. I am 47 years old and have been witing all my life for the democrats to live up to their party platform of universal medical and decent schools and what have they produced nothing in almost a half century. To continue to support this party is like being a battered woman that keeps going back every time our man says he is sorry. The only way to solve this situation is to stop going back. We don't need them they need us. We can build a new party were our Ideals are the parties constitution and not corporate ideals masked has populism. This will not be easy but we have a model in the Republican party Goldwaters ideals did not come into fruition for almst 20 years after his defeat but we have been ruled by these bad ideals for more then thirty years now. If such bad ideas have this kind of staying power think what ours could do. I say the only way to proceed is to abandon the democrats send them the way of the wigs and build a truely progressive party for our future and more importantly our childrens future. To the people that say they are with us make them prove how following the same old strategy of following the abusive husband known has the democratic party will have any different outcome then what we seen already from these so called democrats. This will also help these so called democrats for without our support they will no longer have to pretend and they will be free to show who they truely are republican lights.
PS Thom prove me wrong I bet you won't even address the issue or at best you will be dismissive and condensending (I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.) Lets all challenge Thom to debate someone like a Ralph Nadour for at least a Hour on one of his shows if he has the guts.
I'd prefer a President with a backbone-like Kucinich.