Well - the only good news on this one is that has revealed to be an inside job - but that is not ok to say but......

9 /11 and US over reaction to it Afghan war was just and should have been over fast . Worst thing was Bush 's insane war on Iraq. Bin laden won in some ways He made US spend untold trillions and almost broke us Maybe he has. We shall see. X ray machines , old folks taking off shoes..fear about flying, public places, large events. bad guys changed US for the worst But yes we will survive this in time. We need better / New ways of dealing with terrorists.. Invading entire countries is obscene

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Controlled demolition. It was.

I was just returning from an early morning bike ride the morning of September 11, 2001 when I felt an invisible needle like sensation over my bare arms somewhat the way small pellets of hale can feel. Just as I was trying to make sense of this strange sensation some one yelled from a window that a plaine had crashed into the Trade Center Building. I was a block away from the Brooklyn Red Hook piers where I knew I would be able to see downtown Mahattan clearly as I've seen that view a million times. I turned the corner onto VanBrunt street that runs along the Brooklyn side of the east river and was nearly knocked off my bike by the site of a gaping smoldering hole spanning several floors on the east side of the first tower. I can still feel the eeriness of the silence as I stood staring at something I couldn't comprehend. No screams heard ,no emergency sirens, just gray smoldering smoke quietly escaping the deep void of the first fatal wound to the heart of the America that I had grown up in, the America that I was educatied in, and am a veteran of, that would in the ten years to follow that terrorfying morning would be struggling to survive.

I raced to the roof top of my friends building with a clear view of the skyline only to see as I climbed up out of the hatch onto the roof the second plane appearing out of the blue making an abrupt turn preparing for it's deadly strike. We stood there confussed, screaming, holding on to eachother not knowing how to comprehend what we where seeing. There was nothing for us to draw reference from, no previous source for our brains to grasp. Shock, sobbing, numb we stood frozen in time. Soon to follow was the sight of sparkling confetti flyiing up and floading along in the now bellowing smoke eminateling out of these two wounded giants. The wind blew towards Brooklyn and soon the smoke was passing over us and pieces of the sparkling confettie began to rain down landing at our feet....no longer sparkling but identifyable as burnt notes and papers and family pictures scorched around the edges, smiling faces looking up at us unaware of what had taken place.

Ten years later the wounds unhealed festering with infection scabs yanked off for political abuse. The Havoc of the Bush/Cheney war, the war of Empire, has dworfed the horror of that morning. We have been robbed of our right to morn our dead and most importantly robbed of the right to the truth. We have been dragged down into a firey pit thanks to the arrogance, greed, lies, and betrayal of those who stole the governemnt out from under a people too stunned to grasp the demensions of what was to follow. Even for the millions of us who marched in the streets against the Bush envasion fell silent with a sense of defeat and exhaustion.

What I identify as "good" that has come out of this long saga is to get to know the enemy within our boarders. Not the Muslims, nor the Mexican illegals who we are told are our enemies, but the Traitors to our constitution. Those Republican foxes who dressed in sheeps clothing to gain entry into the HenHouse. All the effort and fear mongering about the dangers of foreign envasion diverting us from the real enemies of America, like the Koch brothers and their gang of multi-national thugs who want to bring down our government, tearing to shreats our sitting President and getting away with it. The huge propaganda machine set in motion with Fox no-news the most loathsome of all. The five rouge judges that thrust a knife into the back of our Democracy buy giving corporations the same rights as flesh and blood human beings.

Unlike the morning of 9/11 when the unfolding tragedy had no source of reference for us to identify what it was that we where witnessing We do have historical references to the fate of envading armies and the hard murderous grasp of Empire. The real tradgedy is not in the collapse of the towers but in the fall of our country.

Cheney's secret energy meetings hold the key to the whole mess. It should never have ended with Scooter.

No, I can't think of anything good (unless you're a war profiteer or domestic equivalent). I can't think of anything good right now, and I'm not sure I'll be able to dream something up before climbing out of bed tomorrow morning. Regardless, the point is made already.

Now, if you had asked if I could think of anything negative and destructive that's emerged since then, I could skip sleep, work all night, and still not have exhausted the list. To really emphasize the point, I think the two challenges should be presented side by side.

It's important to understand that the World Trade Center was not just any tall office building... not an innocent building.

In his book, The Pentagon's New Map (2004), Thomas P. M. Barnett (a Naval War College professor, and geostrategic consultant to the Pentagon) rather transparently described how he served to organize coordinated strategic planning meetings for 21st Century military force supported global economic domination. Those meetings were not held in Washington, DC, at the Pentagon, nor at Foggy Bottom. All the high ranking Pentagon and numerous intelligence agency officials had to regularly schlep up to New York City — where the real Power resides — where decisions were/are made by those who actually decide who will be the POTUS, and what that POTUS and the Congress will do together, and what they will not do. Throughout the Clinton Regime, and seamlessly continuing into the Bush Regime, the meetings of those who were coordinating full-spectrum global domination were held at the offices of the giant bond trading company Cantor Fitzgerald, on the 104th floor of the World Trade Center's Tower One... until 09/11/2001.

Objectively, the World Trade Center buildings became a legitimate and primary military target, because the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald were the de facto command and control center for the coordination of the American military assisted neoliberal global Market-State's serial resource wars of aggression waged upon any less weaponized nations — having valuable resources, and preferably not having any nuclear weapons — that would dare resist the ruthless exploitation and domination by the international banking entities and global extraction industries. The World Trade Center contained an imperial command and control center callously placed among millions of unsuspecting human shields.

The subservience of the military and national intelligence agencies to the banksters of global finance was consistent with the neoliberal realities of the ever expansionist global Market-State (a virtual entity that through global financial control effectively owns the governments of nation-states). Economic enslavement is the primary neoliberal weapon of mass domination (WMD). The military and the covert operating spooks only provide their alternative muscular means if targeted nations resist — if they refuse any offers made that they can't refuse.

It's important to understand that the purpose of the Clinton Regime's interventions — the '95 and '99 aerial bombings of Yugoslavia (with a resultant 4 civilians killed for every soldier targeted) — was not humanitarian. It was done to provide an excuse to maintain the NATO forces, which should have been disbanded after the fall of the Soviet Union. When Clinton lied Yugoslavs died; after which Halliburton's KBR was immediately awarded a no-bid contract to build the then world's largest military base (Camp Bondsteel), providing the American military easy fighter sortie and troop deployment proximity to the Trans-Balkan oil pipeline region; and NATO was reassigned to a new mission, as a permanent expeditionary invasion and occupation force to be used in the planned continuum of resource wars (The Long War that actually began during the nice smiley faced Jimmy Carter Regime).

It's also important to understand that a large portion of Iraq was being bombed near daily throughout the 8 years of the Clinton Regime. Iraq was under siege, having its military defenses and societal infrastructure systematically degraded and destroyed, in preparation for a massive invasion that would have eventually occurred regardless of whomever the POTUS was whenever Iraq was military assessed to be sufficiently vulnerable enough to be successfully occupied by ground troops — success being measured by the political sustainability of public cost providing a high return for private profit, with the least risk to private capital invested.

The voters do not determine policy, regardless of which corporate party faction nominally possess the popular mandate. Voters can only choose to either personally be corporate (R) & (D) party complicit in all the war crimes and crimes against humanity that will be committed by the corporate-state, or to cast a moral imperative protest vote (a vote that's never cast for any Republican or any Democrat). The only votes that are actually not wasted are the protest votes.

Those who argue over whether Republicans or Democrats should provide the nominal appearance of control are merely engaged in a struggle between fascist factions over appearances — arguing over whether the war crimes and crimes against humanity to be committed in their name will be crudely and hot-bloodedly done by Republicans, or calmly and cold-bloodedly done by Democrats.

what would be a good thing is if people would stop acting like those of us who see the holes in the "official" story of 9/11 are viewed as conspiracy theorists. it would be good if people would open their eyes and realize that there was no plane at the Pentagon. it would be good if people would realize that even if jet fuel did cause the the buildings to begin to fall, that at some point the fall would buckle as opposed to collapse in its own footprint. it would be good if people who support the jet fuel reasoning for why the WTC towers fell would realize that there was no jet fuel in WTC 7 and therefore no reason (based on their own reasoning) for the building to collapse as it did. there are many inadequately answered questions regarding 911. I'm not absolutely saying that 911 was an inside job, but I am saying that our government isn't telling us the whole truth. I am saying that the answers they give don't equate with reality, logic, or science. And for that reason alone I, and millions of other intelligent logical citizens, wonder who was actually behind the attacks of 911. When combined with the documented neo-conservative agenda drafted in the 90s to spread democracy throughout the middle east by use of force it seems all too coincidental that we had a neo-conservative administration running things on 911. When combined with Bush's statements regarding being a war president and invading Iraq before he was even president and the subsequent stolen election in 2000, it sure points to a high conspiracy. When combined with the documented lies that got us into the Iraq war, one has to wonder who truly was behind the attacks. Our gov't has lied us into war before and even killed its own in an attempt to push us into war in the past, so why is it so hard to believe that they could have drafted such a dastardly dead??? Too many questions, too few adequate answers, and too many gullible citizens and media heads....you included Thom. You included....unfortunately. Even NPRs tone regarding alternate truths of 911 is down right condescending and in congruence with the mainstream reasoning. Why try to protect us from our governments mistakes and shortcoming? The media should join the fight of truth, not government propaganda. Stop trying to protect us from having doubt on our government...its too late for that anyway. We the people don't trust DC and for liberal talkers to stop thinking logically when it comes to 911 only makes otherwise intelligent people seem complicit....

i'm sick of being called a "conspiracy theorist" and being condescended to simply because I see the holes in the official story. stop being so gullible and open your eyes to truth.

If there were ANYTHING good from this is that I met both liberals and conservatives who believed that 9/11 was an inside job

I think it is unfortunate that American have been bombarded by privately owned media with propoganda about Muslim terrorists while being deprived of the news that America is considered to be a leading terrorist rogue state by much of the world. US response to 9/11 actually fueled more terrorism and violence. Determined to promote US interests at any cost, the US has been repeatedly sanctioned by the World Court and blocked measures that would reduce terrorist acts in the Middle East. I would hope Americans would want to emerge from the controlled media box and education themselves. War on Democracy, Noam Chomsky's documentaries and his book Hegemony or Survival would be good starting places. He demonstrated how American desire for hegemony has literally put the entire world at risk for unprecedented violence.

September 11th has been used very commercially and to propagate more war. I heard today on NPR the report, issued several times today by NPR, that WDC has alerted all of us that the" Al Quida intends to hit NY and WDC on 9-11". The media dutifully parrotts this to an already numb nation. We will probably be invading Iran soon as they will turn out to be the evil one if something happens on 9-11....or so we will be told.

Most sad is that with all the flag waving and trite stories about heroes and those who put their lives on the line to help on 9-11 and after, that really the so-called "united Americans" have turned their backs on those who now suffer from the toxic impact of the destruction. Nor has much been said about those toxic chemicals that caused the cancers and illnesses to the rescue workers.

then, of course, there is the fact that many countries deal with 9-11's on a daily basis -- Americans don't get out much.

I think it really exhibited the extent of the problem of a secular government allowing freedom of religion. No religion really condones freedom of religion, it has to be inherently intolerant in order to define its unique path to salvation. And the USA is possibly the most modern laboratory for religious coexistance, and so it shows how deep the problem is for us (USA) and the whole world.