One of the issues beyond green house gases, and climate change that is not being discussed the importance of oil as a material to make plastics and other polymers which are so critical to modern life and medicine.
No one is talking about the uses of oil besides gasoline. Go into a hospital and look at how many items are made of plastic and disposable to prevent the spread of the disease between patients. Think about what life would be without plastic and polymers if we use all the oil for transportation.
We could have already had the Green Party advocated carbon tax we should have now, if 99% of the voters were not obediently corporate party compliantly voting for the resource war and extraction industry owned Republicans and Democrats.
The devious Democrat (Goldman Sachs' faction of the corporate party) device planned is to provide a global market for banksters to profit from bundling pollution maintenance default swap credits, while the glaciers all disappear and the permafrost becomes permanently defrosted.
Whenever liberals encounter something evil they establish a big bureaucracy to regulate it, to make the evil fucking thing sustainable for as long as humanly possible. The EPA regulates environmentalists to make the profits from the extraction economy be greater, by making the extraction by every means possible last longer. New York's majority of liberal voters could have made the ban fracking Green candidate, Howie Hawkins, the Governor of New York. His campaign offered the "progressive" liberals a well qualified seasoned fighter for every policy that liberals say they want, but the liberals obediently (D) voted for the corporate party's retrograde installation — a Republican caucusing depraved Democrat, Andrew Cuomo. Cuomo is proceeding with the Halliburton fracking extraction industry's plan to Iraqify New York, from the west side of the Catskill Mountains all across the state to Lake Erie that will turn most of the state's farmlands into toxic waste production facilities, to desperately maintain fossil fuel dependence by ripping tiny remnants of gas from stone.
The difference between the corporate party's Democrats and their Republican partners' environmental positions is that the liberals merely seek regulatory delay of the day of reckoning necessary — the day when We The People must decide to stop seeking to preserve an unsustainable system, and to seriously start to provide an ecologically sane and sustainable society.
Seems I recall the carbon tax issue came up some years ago here but never went anywhere. A lot of people were concerned that it would just be passed along to the consumer therefore no cost actually incurred by the violaters. If they want to propose and institute a tax like this on the polluters, then the law would need to be written in such a way so that they could not pass it along to the people. Personally, I feel that stronger regulation would achieve the same results without the consumer paying the bill.
People who won't support a carbon tax because real costs would be passed on to the consumer are people who do not want a solution to the problem of over consumption of rapidly depleting fossil fuel resources. They are people who are not willing to take responsible action to mitigate the adverse consequences of climate change. They are people who do not understand what the externalized cost of a gallon of gas or heating fuel is.
Nearly the entire national debt is oil & natural gas war debt — a deferred carbon tax — a carbon tax with monstrous interest added accumulating. It's a carbon tax that the Greatest Generation and My Generation has imposed upon future generations of tax payers (their children and grandchildren). It's a carbon tax debt that profligate parents are passing on to be paid by the same future generations who will inherit the catastrophic consequences of excessive fossil fuel consumption caused climate change.
When the (reporting for duty) Kerry voters voted in 2004 to have more resource wars done "better" than Bush, those "progressive" liberals voted to increase the war debt carbon tax.
When those maniacs MovedOn in 2008 to vote for Obama to redeploy from Iraq to the "real" and "necessary" wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan (on their way to Iran), those "progressive" liberals voted to increase the war debt carbon tax.
This fascist nation allows elections because 99% of this nation's people vote for fascists.
"Thom Hartmann’s book explains in simple language and with concrete research the details of the Neo-con’s war against the American middle class. It proves what many have intuited and serves to remind us that without a healthy, employed, and vital middle class, America is no more than the richest Third World country on the planet."
—Peter Coyote, Actor and author of Sleeping Where I Fall
From Unequal Protection, 2nd Edition:
"Beneath the success and rise of American enterprise is an untold history that is antithetical to every value Americans hold dear. This is a seminal work, a godsend really, a clear message to every citizen about the need to reform our country, laws, and companies."
—Paul Hawken, coauthor of Natural Capitalism and author of The Ecology of Commerce
From Cracking the Code:
"No one communicates more thoughtfully or effectively on the radio airwaves than Thom Hartmann. He gets inside the arguments and helps people to think them through—to understand how to respond when they’re talking about public issues with coworkers, neighbors, and friends. This book explores some of the key perspectives behind his approach, teaching us not just how to find the facts, but to talk about what they mean in a way that people will hear."
One of the issues beyond green house gases, and climate change that is not being discussed the importance of oil as a material to make plastics and other polymers which are so critical to modern life and medicine.
No one is talking about the uses of oil besides gasoline. Go into a hospital and look at how many items are made of plastic and disposable to prevent the spread of the disease between patients. Think about what life would be without plastic and polymers if we use all the oil for transportation.
We could have already had the Green Party advocated carbon tax we should have now, if 99% of the voters were not obediently corporate party compliantly voting for the resource war and extraction industry owned Republicans and Democrats.
The devious Democrat (Goldman Sachs' faction of the corporate party) device planned is to provide a global market for banksters to profit from bundling pollution maintenance default swap credits, while the glaciers all disappear and the permafrost becomes permanently defrosted.
Whenever liberals encounter something evil they establish a big bureaucracy to regulate it, to make the evil fucking thing sustainable for as long as humanly possible. The EPA regulates environmentalists to make the profits from the extraction economy be greater, by making the extraction by every means possible last longer. New York's majority of liberal voters could have made the ban fracking Green candidate, Howie Hawkins, the Governor of New York. His campaign offered the "progressive" liberals a well qualified seasoned fighter for every policy that liberals say they want, but the liberals obediently (D) voted for the corporate party's retrograde installation — a Republican caucusing depraved Democrat, Andrew Cuomo. Cuomo is proceeding with the Halliburton fracking extraction industry's plan to Iraqify New York, from the west side of the Catskill Mountains all across the state to Lake Erie that will turn most of the state's farmlands into toxic waste production facilities, to desperately maintain fossil fuel dependence by ripping tiny remnants of gas from stone.
The difference between the corporate party's Democrats and their Republican partners' environmental positions is that the liberals merely seek regulatory delay of the day of reckoning necessary — the day when We The People must decide to stop seeking to preserve an unsustainable system, and to seriously start to provide an ecologically sane and sustainable society.
Voter Consent Wastes Dissent:
http://chenangogreens.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id...
Seems I recall the carbon tax issue came up some years ago here but never went anywhere. A lot of people were concerned that it would just be passed along to the consumer therefore no cost actually incurred by the violaters. If they want to propose and institute a tax like this on the polluters, then the law would need to be written in such a way so that they could not pass it along to the people. Personally, I feel that stronger regulation would achieve the same results without the consumer paying the bill.
People who won't support a carbon tax because real costs would be passed on to the consumer are people who do not want a solution to the problem of over consumption of rapidly depleting fossil fuel resources. They are people who are not willing to take responsible action to mitigate the adverse consequences of climate change. They are people who do not understand what the externalized cost of a gallon of gas or heating fuel is.
Nearly the entire national debt is oil & natural gas war debt — a deferred carbon tax — a carbon tax with monstrous interest added accumulating. It's a carbon tax that the Greatest Generation and My Generation has imposed upon future generations of tax payers (their children and grandchildren). It's a carbon tax debt that profligate parents are passing on to be paid by the same future generations who will inherit the catastrophic consequences of excessive fossil fuel consumption caused climate change.
When the (reporting for duty) Kerry voters voted in 2004 to have more resource wars done "better" than Bush, those "progressive" liberals voted to increase the war debt carbon tax.
When those maniacs MovedOn in 2008 to vote for Obama to redeploy from Iraq to the "real" and "necessary" wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan (on their way to Iran), those "progressive" liberals voted to increase the war debt carbon tax.
This fascist nation allows elections because 99% of this nation's people vote for fascists.
Voter Consent Wastes Dissent:
http://chenangogreens.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id...