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Think you are right Raypc800 - this is unconscionable and totally wrong. Only winners are defense, CitiGroup, bankers/wallstreeters and the rich. Pensioners of companies who the GOP allowed to underfund pension plans now face pension cuts of up to 50% and the rest of us get NOTHING but grief
joecan, Obama is the one who has said that he WILL vote for this piece of garbage. Maybe impeachment isn't such a bad idea after all because he always caves in at the last minute. No wonder no one takes him seriously. Idiot has let the people down just one more time. Any Democrat who votes for this should be IMMEDIATELY recalled, impeached or definitely voted out next time around when possible
Thom says,
"We've got two years to make it clear that we want lawmakers who will stand up to the hostage taking at all costs, so let's get busy making our voices heard."
NO WE DON'T "have two years".
As long as we do not have a House of Representatives with 7,000 Representatives and a Senate one third that size, as our Constitution REQUIRED before the most corrupt Congress in the history of this country put an unconstitutional cork in the count in the early 20th century, there is ZERO chance of ANY vote by U.S. citizens to put a dent in the Fascist Fossil Fuel, War Profiteering Oligargarchy Modus Operandi that runs the USA.
NO TAXATION, TORTURE, WARS or ANYTHING ELSE WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!
ONE "REPRESENTATIVE" per 600,000 population is NOT a Representative Republic, a Democracy or anything REMOTELY resembling it; it 's an EVIL Government of the Corporate Elite, For the Corporate Elite, and By the Corporate Elite, PERIOD.
All the comments are the way many of us feel. Let's not to forget to fight the good fight. We are on the right side don't lay down now. (Good to hear from A/W)
Reply to #1: It's getting harder and harder for me to disagree with assertions like Joe's. I am bloody sick of the Democrats. Maybe I should register with another party. They SUCK.
The Koch Youth are the future of Amerika; thet are sure to love Big Brother. This is the ideal way to build a totalitarian dictatorship; it has been creeping up on us for a hundred years while we slept. Now it is too late.
Roland
P.S.: Impeach John Roberts. It is the right thing to do.
Increasingly there is less difference between the Democratic and Republican parties in that they are two wings of the same power structure. Democrats today are roughly Eisenhower Republicans, while Republicans are just weird. But, with a few shining exceptions, they all answer to the same masters.
I share your hatred of republiCons! They are fearful, lustful, angry, and greedy people who glorify themselves at the expense of good, hard-working people. This is nothing new! I think we are about to enter into another Civil War in this country, where we will be fighting the republiCons and the Billonaires for the heart and soul of this country…”that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”. We will have to unite together into one solid organization dedicated to stopping these greedy-minded people from enslaving people and disenfranchising them from our Democracy.
I expect nothing but total obediance to their owners of our politicians. I expect to never see honest elections in my country during my lifetime. I expect to see greed and dishonesty rule the day, day after day, year after year, decade after decade. I've observed politics in America for over 60 years and in that time our nation has become a Nazi wet dream and a corupt quagmire. I even lived to see our President choosen by our Rightwing Supreme in a coup-------------if the citizens stood still for that--we are done as a nation!
Right now I am so pissed off at repugnicans I'm wishing I had a gun and the guts to commit murder.
In Michigan, the repugnicans just passed a bill allowing medical professionals and EMTs to refuse medical services to gays, on religious grounds. WHEN WILL THOSE BASTARDS STOP PROMOTING HATRED?!?!!!
My religious beliefs require me to kidnap, torture, and execute any politician that promotes hatred! Take that you christian bastards!
If any person dies because because an EMT refused to help them becasue their gay, I hope that EMT is severly beaten and killed.
My apologies if my language offended anyone...except hateful christians.
Merry fuckin' christmas.
I have voting in every election without fail for the last 25 years or more. I have watched in the last 10 years my vote be worthless for the most part. People are not coming out to vote for numerous reasons. I have also watched the country become more aggressively taken over by radical far right wing.
Sorry Thom I think that with the current events occurring in the USA our founding fathers would be organizing and cleaning their weapons, not just voting.
Just another high paid fox troll earning her keep.
It's times like this, Matt, when I think you're a shill for big business - or their dupe - 'cause that's plain crazy. There are certain standards that have to be maintained and children deserve not to be indoctrinated, i.e., they deserve not to have ideology substituted for their history - or science. And, needless to say - I would think - that doesn't serve society well to do so.
That's why we have separation of church and state, ideology is no different than religion in this and most other instances. Just like we don't need, and it doesn't serve them well, to teach children Creationism instead of Darwinism in science and biology class, religion or ideology being taught as history doesn't help them any either.
This is EXACTLY why we need to do away with the Department of Education, both at the federal and state level. They don't educate anyone - they only dictate what schools should teach. (And redistribute fund from one school to another. And license teachers like myself. But ok.)
Curriculum is best determined at the local level, where parents have the most say in the matter. If the citizens of a certain community want one thing taught to their children, and another community wants it taught a different way, that's the community's business, not the state or federal government.
Sorry Thom but I disagree. The Democrats weren't taken hostage. This is the game that's played in Washington. We have very few real Democrats who truly care about the working class in America. I honestly believe that the Democrats would rather be in the minority so they can do the bidding of the rich and powerful and then point at the Republicans. I really think there is only one party in Washington and it doesn't represent the working class.
How about the Fascist Party? Leaves no room for pretense.
Try asking the politicians that.
I think it's time we realized that Democrats and Republicans are playing "good cop, bad cop." At the expense of the working class and to the benefit of the very very rich and powerful.
Nobody, in our society as is currently constructed, can be "rich" unless someone else is poor. It's about relative wealth and relative dominance of the society. "Libertarians" believe in a society where only a small minority can be happy and live well. I rather don't think the founders had that intention.
Many, many people - the majority - work VERY hard, harder than any one percenters - without ANY realistic hope of being rich. Many don't even desire wealth, such as those who dedicate themselves to the betterment of humanity. Do not they too deserve a good life - and freedom and power in the governance of their society? Why is making a pig of oneself in the lusting after superfluous wealth placed as a "value" before all other values entitling solely the possesor of such single mindedness to any rights or freedoms? Simply because that is all the one percenters care about?
The "libertarian" philosophy is antithetical to that of the founders. Their Enlightenment revolution was to throw off feudalism. They worried equally about government and "monied interests" gaining too much power because they feared its return - which is just what the Koch's and "libertarians" seek. Their party is surely misnomered but it shouldn't be called "Objectivist" either. That would be a misnomer too as they have little capacity for objectivity - as can be seen from this latest scam of theirs in the NC teaching of history. Their proper name would be the Neo Feudal Party.
Using the Bill Of Rights Institute's curriculum is just wrong. Teaching students things to shape their minds a certain way is just wrong. It's brainwashing and brainwashing is just wrong. I'm sure at least some of the teachers will see that what they are supposed to teach is not what they were taught and wiil teach their students the facts. It should be like what Sargent Friday on Dragnet would ask for, "Just the facts ma'am", This new curriculum is about raising a multitude of kids to help the most wealthy. In other words, it's about greed. The Kochs are like the pre civil war wealthy slave owners. They thought that because what they were doing was legal or because others were doing the same thing, that it couldn't be wrong. Billionaires that do great wrong find ways to justify their wrong doings when it is of great personal benefit to them and their family.
Ideology thinly disguised as history. Can't pass any, even very rudimentary, smell test. Jefferson, probably the greatest champion of freedom of the founders, worried not only about government gaining too much power but as much about business and "monied interests" doing the same. It was he who first proposed progressive taxation where wealthier people were to contribute a greater share of their wealth to the common good.
This latest Republican fraud simply needs national exposure and enough loud attention to make it disappear - as many of their shams do - but now, before a generation of NC highschoolers is deceived. "Liberty is never more than one generation away from extinction." the founders said and we must not let this "libertarian" definition of liberty - not liberty but class privilege, liberty for one percenters, their lickspittles and wannabes and tyranny for everyone else - to prevail upon a single generation.
Who was the Nazi who stated - If a lie is repeated enough it becomes the truth. That Nazi was inspired by American propaganda specialist like Bernays and Lippmann. Ford inspired Hitler and a lot of American Industrialist and propagandist have inspired some of the worlds worst inhumanity.
Thom needs to stop calling them libertarians and start calling them Objectivist. Libertarianism has it's roots in the enlightenment and has been high jacked by Ayn Rand Objectivist; that have completely misunderstood the concept of libertarianism. The right has redefined a term to suit their own purpose. Objectivist are the intellectual Neo-Fascist.
History is defined by power and controlled for a reason. Thom is not immune to deceptive practices of rewriting history. He would understand the history of libertarianism and not continue to sully the concept by linking it to objectivism, which, isn't anymore than a religion of corporate activism. Objectivist are apologist for big business and that's the simple truth or as close to as I can get.
Just what we need, Koch Youth. Talk about history repeating itself..... I wonder if they'll have their own special haircuts and uniforms.
Way to go North Carolina....nothing beats allowing the Koch Kings to mess with the delicate minds of your youth. Now Jim-Bob will grow up confident that dumping fracking waste in the Town's water supply is his Koch given right.
Speaking of Kings, will somebody please clue Sheriff Mack in, Obama isn't even in the ballpark of having enough wealth to be a 21st century Fascist /King.
I think if Obama decides to pardon these people, he should first read them the riot act - really stipulate that these are abominable criminals, (unAmerican - oh, wouldn't THAT rile the Repugnicans!), inhuman, etc, etc, and their actions, above all, are totally useless in getting real information. He should relate the actions of Washington and Lincoln in treating prisoners decently (Washington said it would show how a free people conduct themselves - superior to the rest), not to mention the military personnel in Gulf War 1 that saw Iraqis by the thousands scramble out of their foxholes (where they were stationed by Saddam Hussein) and enthusiastically surrender to our troops instead of killing them. Fair treatment would have brought in so many people willing to help us, even if they themselves were locked up for a while.
I wish a pardon would not be necessary. I wanted accusations, trials, and imprisonment for these criminals. Unfortunately, Obama cannot do such a thing because of the power these people have. Grandpoppy Bush was a Nazi collaborator, Poppy Bush was a longtime secret CIA criminal involved in all kinds of underhanded activities - and aside from that is suspected of having something to do with the JFK assassination. And Cheney himself undoubtedly has a Rolodex of assassins and people that can otherwise ruin his enemies. There is plenty of evidence that they are suspected of several nasty events when they have been threatened. Obama gets cursed for his failure to prosecute these war criminals, but he knows that if he does, he probably won't see his daughters grow up.
This is creepy stuff. If a state’s education system is receptive to this kind of fascist propaganda, we are really in trouble. Young minds are like sponges… until they calcify. If you get my drift…