At that time my father said that in econmic down turns a company needs to layoff workers. The union workers were paid 80% of their pay when laidoff. Check your facts on this and other details.

Carson L ~ You are so right! The RepubliCONs have so outraged the vast majority of citizens that they have no hope of winning any fair election; so, they do the next best thing--something they are good at--THEY CHEAT! Personally, I agree with what you are saying. The more they behave underhandedly, the more they enraged the majority of voters. Rage is a powerful motivating emotion. Regardless of the cheating method, I too foresee the sheer masses fighting back at the polls in a landslide. Thanks for the help! These idiots are doing more to loose the next election than the Democrats could ever do.

Thom, if your position was true, you wouldn't have to portray the people you disagree with as these shadowy-evil drones. (They are not) There is nothing 'extreme' about cutting taxes. There is nothing anti-voter about requiring rules that prevent fraud in voting. Democrats object to ths because this hurts their chance at election, because honesty is not a desirable character trait for democrat politicians. (No group has fought moral standards harder or longer than your group.)

That was outsourced to Communist China too!!!!!

As people for the people with faith in the paramount righteousness of valueing us all over any one's self, we can rest assured that this extreme action undertook by conservatives will only work against them in the long run, that very long run of winning any future elections. Nothing gets people getting people to the voting booths like outrage and disgust; ie. 1932 Hooverville DC Bonus Army vs. Douglas MacArthur! Who would've thunk it? Conservatives generously handing over a red state to the democrats!

Once again Republicans can only see what's within their arm's reach. Motor city pensions may have been the last straw for their immediate economy but that is no more to blame for their collapse than a murder victim's huge loss of blood is to blame for why he's dead. I believe that it's the three bullets in the victim's chest that caused him to bleed too much which ultimately caused him to perish. As usual, republicans are correct, but only on the surface. I wonder what it's like to be so black and white with real life comprehension, perhaps it's very gratifying. Or is it 'white then black' for our infamous whigs of the right?

Is it just an illusion that Detroit's problems have been caused by non-Republicans, by non-whites, by non-wealthy people...the workers...the laborers...the retirees?

It seems to me that Detroit is surrounded by some very opulent, mostly-white, exclusive gated communities that have been sucking Detroit dry all these years. It wasn't just the Uncle Toms that were ushered into positions of faux power, ostensibly running the city, to end up taking all the blame. It was the real powers that created the illusion of a progressive facade that beguiled so many people into swallowing the bait. While all these "white guys" have stashed their ill-gotten gains in off-shore accounts they try to blame their victims and expect the nation to believe their lies and deception.

The mega corporations, headquartered in Detroit, have exploited the masses..the quasi-slave labor market of the Detroit metropolis, drained them dry with promises of heaven in their retirement years but leaving them with hell instead.

These Mammon, Moloch and Ayn Rand worshippers (WAR shippers) sacrifice their children for a few shekels every chance they get. They are having one of their sacred ceremonies as we speak in Monte Rio, Ca...at Bohemian Grove...where they make a symbolic sacrifice to the concrete statue of a hollow giant owl called Moloch. "As a god worshipped by the Phoenicians and Canaanites, Moloch had associations with a particular kind of propitiatory child sacrifice by parents." --Wikipedia.

And then, like the pitiful cowards that they are, they try to make their sacrificed children, their slaves, out as irresponsible reprobates to take all the blame for their own destitution.

So, think about that every time you see a commercial on TV, or at the movies, or see a bill board advertisement....they have used all the psychological marketing wizardry they can think of to cajole people out of their well being for yet more junk to buy.

Who's houses or apartments are not full of junk they no-longer use, just collecting dust and taking up space, like discarded toys. Toys we all once just had to have because our minds were hypnotized by some cute commercial into owning...just had to have it! Then, these tempestuous, greedy marketing cowards turn right around and blame their victims...blame the suckers who gave in to the urges to buy, buy, buy. Blame them for being weak and irresponsible...or being lazy and unproductive.

We were all made to believe that life was good and would only get better...just keep spending...or, conversely, risk your savings in various savings, investment, or retirement funds (scams)...trust in financial experts with your money. While many of those who were trying to be frugal and "wisely" "investing" their savings for the long term, the crooked weasels were slipping out the back door (in the short term) with our savings and stashing them in their offshore accounts.

The world was touted to be a gigantic bubble that would just keep growing forever and never burst and you'd better get in now before it is too late. If you don't take the plunge and go along with "liars loans", hyped and encouraged by the "experts", the loan companies, the banks, you would miss your chance forever to experience the American dream...home ownership.

It's time to get very, very cynical and wary of everything and everyone promising gold at the end of the rainbow. It is just not going to happen. These proselytizers will cheat you out of your money and then, later, try to blame you for being stupid and unworthy of having any money.

You know when someone like Neo-Con Cheney brags about what he has done as if it were a virtue, and remains unpunished, that the Nazi's have taken over!

Quote article: Glenn Greenwald is going to publish a book based on the revelations of Snowden and warns those who may wish to silence the "whistleblower": "He has already distributed thousands of documents and made sure that different people around the world have the full archive. If anything happens to him, these documents will be made public. This is his insurance. The U.S. government should daily pray on their knees no harm happens to Snowden. Because if that happens, all of this information will be released and it will be the worst nightmare for the United States."

And Snowden, according to Greenwald, "has enough information that in just one minute could cause more damage to the U.S. government than anyone else has ever done in the history of the United States."

http://cryptome.org/2013/07/gg-snowden-leak-halt.htm

Gee, what in the world could it be? What does Snowden/Greenwald have on the US Intelligence agencies/US government that we don't already know? What? Do they have death camps hidden in the woods scattered throughout the US with "Arbeit Macht Frei" signs above the gates? Or, do they have evidence that the US government is collaborating with an extraterrestrial race who kidnap and impregnate earth women for the purpose of creating hybrid human/alien beings? Man, I'm certainly glad Snowden is seeking asylum in Russia! But, I'm afraid the NSA probably already has tracked down all those repositories of Snowden revelations and they are likely sending out their jackals to rig more cars to crash into more trees at this very moment. I just hope that Snowden isn't sold out by some trickery of some sort in Russia. After all, if they sell nuclear materials on the black market, they'll sell out Snowden.

The founding fathers.

When this country was set up by a set of men who wanted to move the 13 colonies from a controlling monarchy and government, to form a country that was not under the control of a single powerful man like a king and the king’s parliament, but to a form of government that was set up and ran by elected officials of its own people. Alexander Hamilton expressed this in his writings of the Federalist papers number 17 when he said.

The barons, or nobles, equally the enemies of the sovereign and the oppressors of the common people, were dreaded and detested by both; till mutual danger and mutual interest effected a union between them fatal to the power of the aristocracy. Had the nobles, by a conduct of clemency and justice, preserved the fidelity and devotion of their retainers and followers, the contests between them and the prince must almost always have ended in their favor, and in the abridgment or subversion of the royal authority.

The founding fathers truly believe the government should have been set up by the common people, in which they believe the government of the people would create an environment for equal growth instead of a monarchy. Little did they know or realize that they left a pathway that would permit a major organization or a corporation to succeed in a Monarch type authority, that would take the power from the common people away then spread it among the small amount of the elite. That would drive a division that will separate different types of classes of people like it was set up in a monarchy. The Republican Party that is also known as the Conservatives supports this type of divisions of classes among the people of America.

The beginning of the Reagan era.

The beginning of the Pres. Reagan’s administration started the downward fall of the American working family, to a life of struggle under the control of the corporations in this nation, who takes profit over the working family instead of uniting this nation with equal opportunity. In the writings of some of our famous founding fathers, one of them Thomas Jefferson’s quotation of, “All men are created equal” which is found in the Declaration of Independence, one of the countries best known documents that started this country departure from the ruling factor of the monarchy and his parliament. We are now at the point in this country’s history we are heading towards a structure that Alexander Hamilton mentioned in the Federalist papers number 17, of a monarch like structure that now we give onto the corporations with such titles as Chief Operating Officer, Chairman of the Board, or the President of the Company, than titles like The King, Queen, Prince, Princess or any other of the royal authority.

The Bush administration bailed out major corporations as did the Obama administration, the public employees of this city will probably lose their pension and they are not eligible for social security. It’s always the small guy, the common working man that gets sold out while these kingdoms of the top elite in this country that flourish. It is just not right.

My father, a life long strong union man, told me over 45 years ago that the UAW would kill the auto industry in this country with their demands!

I'm too pissed to play defense so I choose offense tonight. Let's talk about "mismanagement" and "bad governance." I can think of a few old white guy examples. How about banks too big to fail so we bailed them out? How about the Cheney Administration's for profit, illegal, and unfunded wars? How about Rick Scott ripping off the tax payers with record Medicaid fraud? How about Romney stealing retirements from citizens with nothing else but poverty to replace it with? How about him and his type socking the loot in offshore bank accounts for purpose of tax evasion? How about the Kochs driving up the price of gas during record surplus and low demand? How about the Teabag House, their alcoholic speaker, and the Senate's Turtleman, all obstructing economic recovery and wasting our tax money? These are is all white boy scoundrels and Detroit isn't even one raindrop in the pond compared to their "mismanagement" and "bad governance." The corpse media won't tell you this though.