A Statistic That Will Help People Think About The True Relavance Of The Zimmerman Case:

Quote The Bureau Of Justice Statistics:A 2007 special report released by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, reveals that approximately 8,000 — and, in certain years, as many as 9,000 African Americans are murdered annually in the United States. This chilling figure is accompanied by another equally sobering fact, that 93% of these murders are in fact perpetrated by other blacks. The analysis, supported by FBI records, finds that in 2005 alone, for example, African Americans accounted for 49% of all homicide victims in the US — again, almost exclusively at the hands of other African Americans.

The moral to this story? If you want to save the lives of innocent black homicide victims you are barking up the wrong tree by scrutinizing the Zimmerman Trial/Crime.

Full Article: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/04/09/race-wars-part-1-the-shocking-data-on-black-on-black-crime/

(In the quote above is a link to the Bureau of Justice Statistics report--an official report from The US Department of Justice--if you want to read it yourself.)

To say that the over sensationalization of the Zimmerman/Martin case is pure BS on steroids is the understatement of the year! From all this media hype, one might think that Trayvon Martin was the only innocent black person murdered in this country this year. Are we all really that ignorant of reality?

Palindromeday ~ I'll say this much for you, at least you're consistent! Admirable. Nevertheless, you still miss the point. Human behavior is natural; and, therefore predictable using the scientific method. Traits in human behavior can be studied, recorded, and analysed by scrutiny of history. Any true historian will tell you that history tends to repeat itself because human behavior tends to be consistent. Historians will also tell you that to not know your history is to be doomed to repeat it.

Prophecy, regardless of its origin, retains its integrity because it represents cycles of history. Legend, mythology, epic tails, and good literary fiction do the same. That is why great stories stand the test of time. Many serious Theologians believed that the prophecy of The Book Of Revelations already was fulfilled one thousand years ago. Others pick other times. Who's to say they are not all right, since, that story is probably representative of one of the great cycles of the human evolutionary process? If so, then who is to say that this cycle isn't currently repeating itself; and, will likely do so again in the distant future?

The fact remains, human behavior is natural and therefore predictable. History, tends to repeat itself, unless it is studied, analysed, and applied to the present. Much the way a tree grows in stages from seed, to bud, to youngling, to adult, to towering redwood. No two trees are the same; but, the stages of growth are always identical. Is it not that the evolution of human society can occur in stages as well, evolving over time the same way that a tree evolves over time during its life cycle? After all, both are alive, both obey natural laws, both react to the same environment, and both evolve over time. What is so hard to believe about the history of mankind being a universal constant that tends to repeat itself over and over and over again, varying minimally from growth cycle to cycle; while, always following the same series of stages? Whatever you feel about the supernatural, you cannot discount these simple observable natural facts.

That being said, I offer this in evidence to prove this to be true. I am painfully aware that we have had this conversation before. Being fully aware of that history I chose to end this topic now because I know where it is going to end up. With that, I thank you for taking the time to chat about God and prophecy. It has been fun. Now, on to more progressive topics that we both take seriously. Thanks again!!

Oh no! Here we go again! Just when I was expecting something more relevant like a story on sequester, the latest hearings about the Affordable Care Act, info on what's going on in Syria, or an update in Edward Snowden and NSA spying. Why all the stupid attention to a stupid fight, that happened for stupid reasons? Such altercations happen every day, in every city across the country--in bars, on school campuses, in traffic, at family gatherings, in people's homes, and in poor neighborhoods. Were lucky if one of these casualties or court cases ever even gets mentioned in the media or on the news. If you ask me there is so much more important things going on in the country that it is just plain and simple stupidity to dwell this much attention on a simple street fight between two idiots.

The only reason for dwelling on this is a sinister one. One of the fighters was black and one was white. We dwell on it to sow discord between black people and white people. Face it my friends, there is nothing else to gained. Our entire media is a part of this hate frenzy and we are all gullible victims of it.

Repealing the "Stand Your Ground Law?" Are you kidding me? Just how is that going to prevent this tragedy from happening again or make the world safer for minorities? That law was put on the books to protect people trying to defend themselves, their homes, and their families. The only thing repealing it would do is give criminals an advantage after the fact in defending themselves in court. Can someone offer a better reason or attempt to explain any rationality in this?

Who is running this "Dream Defenders" gang of young idiots? Are you trying to tell me this is the best they can do to improve society for minorities or youth. Defending criminals and trying to make the world safer for people who threaten other people. This group deserve to be investigated by the IRS, the CIA, the FBI, and the DHS! They are being played a fool and falling right into the plan of the elitist to divide and conquer. Obviously, so is Thom Hartmann and anyone else who takes this nonsense seriously.

Take the NRA to the Supreme Court and overturn all these fascist "Stand Your Ground" laws. ALEC has coerced 33 States to enact "Stand Your Ground" laws Let's overturn them and ban ALEC from meddling in our State legislatures. ALEC is fully funded by the Cock brothers and the 1% who hate our guts. Zimmerman is a coward with a yellow streak a mile long on his back. These laws are an affront to the American people.

It's the issue of the moment, but won't change anything. We've developed (in recent decades) a very ugly culture that encourages intolerance, fear and violence. The only thing that surprises me is that it's men who are the most fearful, with so many of them feelng powerless and threatened unless they have a gun.

Dr. Meyer stated "digital information is only improved by an intelligent designer." (Or words to that effect.)

There are digital systems which are randomly mutated and the 'best,' based on the goal criteria, are cross-bred. Using this strategy and millions of iterations produced an extremely efficient sorting routine. QED.

see digital evolution laboratory out of U. of Michigan.

Thom, you have done a better job of providing true enlightenment than any other commentator. If everyone could watch your segments on this issue, there would be much more unity and understanding between the races in our country.

Hmmmm...So POINTOFGRILLE, who do you want to run for President in 2016? That and the party they represent will be a HUGE factor in regaining our hijacked government back from the corporations...Leading to what you call Good Government.

We the People need to step-up our voice in the mid term elections in order to set the stage for 2016. Lotsa work to be done so lets get started now!

Knowing that they cannot be trusted, that they have lied before, that they keep somehow shmoosing their way out of giving up their filibuster power, YES he has been duped again. When will they learn? When will they get it? How many times do they have to made fools of, before they take the power they earned when elected by the people of this country? Or is it just a big show, because so many have been bought and paid for?

Yawn...Really Thom!?!After wasting yesterday on Zimmerman, Harry Reid is the best topic you could come up with...Your loosing your edge!

Did some one shout CAMPAIGN FINACE REFORM ??? Oh, it was you DANNEMARC...Well I second that.

movetoammend.org Over turn Citizens United... Abolish Corporate Personhood, NOW!!!

If We the People (living breathing humanbeings and not corporations) want to regain our Independence from a Corporate hijacked Government than We the People need to deliver a class action lawsuit against those elected into the U.S. Government, for breeching their sworn oath to uphold, protect, and abide by the U.S. Constitution (The law of this Land), as well as protect and uphold our Civil Rights as clearly written.
Without a mass collective of U.S. Citizens standing up and exercising our Right to alter or abolish any government that becomes destructive of the basic principles as written in the Declaration of Independence; " 'The Equal Right' to Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness", we will continue to further have our Rights dismantled and further slip away from a Democratic Government of, for, and by the People. The Zimmerman incident can't hold a candle stick to that kind of down trodden!

DAnneMarc: Do you know how many people, for thousands of years, tried to make sense of the world in terms of myths and superstitious ideas? They were all absolutely convinced that the world was a battle between mystical forces of good and evil. Ahura Mazda and Ahriman, God and the Devil, angels and demons.

Yes, there are forces of "good" and "evil" in the world but it all depends on how people interpret what is "good" and what is "evil". Because they are largely abstract, interpretive, and subjective. It varies from culture to culture...from age to age. Our typically acceptable modern day beliefs and actions would be abhorrent to some more ancient cultures. Some more ancient cultures are abhorrent to some modern day cultures.

Oh, those Greeks, Spartans, and Romans...and I'm sure there were lots of others! We only have to look back about a century in the US and there were things that people did then ...that was perfectly acceptable then...but is now considered taboo. In Arabic cultures, it is an insult to wave or shake with your left hand (because that is the hand that is usually considered the proper one to wipe with--and they usually don't use toilet paper--it is actually better and more sanitary than toilet paper...if they use water...even better with soap--many countries the bidet is commonly used..much more sanitary than toilet paper) and it is an insult to point the sole of you feet (as in sitting with one leg upon the other) toward another person. In oriental cultures it is an insult to touch another person's head.

True believers, for several thousands of years, have sought refuge in caves because they were absolutely convinced that they were able to interpret various signs...dreams...biblical interpretations that foretold of the imminent destruction of the earth by God. It's really odd how so many people can be so certain of their faith in superstitious ideas as being real yet they have almost always been wrong. Yet, they slink back out of their caves when the world did not end, as they expected, and amazingly downshifted mentally into yet another fen of ridiculousness. Sheer folly!

I know that some modern believers like to think of themselves as not like all those other "believers" and try really hard to pretend they are different...more enlightened, perhaps. But, see, that is part of the reason why there are so many religions and sects to begin with. It is all fragmented. Shattered pieces of the big lie that so many people are afraid to admit...even to themselves.

They have been propagandized by their parents and the community in which they associate themselves. Even the government largely dared not challenge these superstitious ideas and used it to their advantage. Even Emperor Constantine realized that it is better to use and steer the superstitions of the masses to control them. And he was definitely not the first or last to do so. Once it is established that one is a believer in one superstitious idea, like a believe in God, it is pretty hard for others to believe that that person doesn't also tend to believe in a lot of other superstitious ideas..even the really funky ones...like Satan and 7 headed monsters.

We all really do owe it to all of those pious superstitious purveyors in our history, and present...The Church...all churches...even to those who swear they are not members of churches or to any particular religion but still believe in superstitious ideas...to fully challenge and question the legitimacy of the lies and the horrendous crimes against humanity that many, in our past, have committed in the name of their superstitious beliefs. We owe it to the victims that fell afoul of the pious bullies lest we again fall afoul of another Torquemada of any future Grand Inquisition.

People are so easily fooled by various gimmicks...take The Bible Code of about 16 years ago. How many people got taken in by that crap?

Quote June 2012 article:Barry Simon of the Caltech mathematics department has shown that any sufficiently large text will have similar letter patterns in it. Famously, the same algorithms used in the Bible Codes yielded similarly “prophetic” results when used on Hebrew translations of “War and Peace.”

Indeed, when, in 1997, popular author Michael Drosnin (who wrote a book on the subject) challenged critics to find the same “prophecy” regarding the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin in “Moby Dick” as Bible Codes folks had found in the Bible, Australian computer scientist Brendan McKay did just that, and for good measure he found letter arrangements predicting the assassinations of Trotsky, Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr.

In other words, the Bible Codes are bunk.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/bible-codes-are-a-...

The Con will rat on you, and the Rat will con you. The Con takes your money in the game and the Rat takes your money an the races.