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DAM -- the real Obama said he wanted to get rid of the AUMF which seems counter to who you consider the real Obama.

NACHOman ~ Did you read my post # 21 entitled "The Real Obama..." It is most enlightening and I'm sure you will want to respond to it.

Namaste

Will there be an end to the perpetual war?

No.

First to recognize a refreshing spirit that has the same intuitive progressive considerations I have, Liz Waker. Reading the analysis Liz made this day and reflecting much of what Liz wrote is how I feel. Expressing what we all know is true Obama cannot do it alone. Yet a Republican party is openly cruel to obsessed with introducing news that is modified by the idea of scandal loaded with breaking news on a conscious format intended with the leading rhetoric in hate in “scandal” is obstruction of government which is a direct political vector using the shield of the first amendment that cries out to be treason but now argued as the right to be secret in resources. Not in a war folks…we all have a right to know. And eventually will.

I enjoy Thom’s thoughts that penetrate topics much more than the Mainstream Media. Thom should realize he is a leading edge person independent in a cruel news arena biased with corporate glitz, blitz, and snaring, snarling, punking commercial driven, as stay tuned for the answer to issues that will likely drive America into cultural destitution.

The big three news outlets are loaded with snit remarks, especially from the Fox Republican Wahhabi Tea Party News Corporation highly and likely financed by the Wahhabi Arabs that are forty nine percent stock holds. These oil Arabs have been dancing around the American stock market for decades, you wonder why America has a crazy market. It’s intended.

Furious, believe me as my autonomous handle suggest in the most maniac way…maybe angry as a maniac but not crazy enough to run down a British Military person or American to decapitate with a butcher cleaver and knife.

How disgusting when I heard that news. But it reflects the real core of Islam extremism. From my view it means a young confused generation is duped into creating war for the sole purpose of selling gas. Yes the perfect way for the Arabs to make money, the profiteers that are closely linked to the Bush and Cheney families. The “gas war machine”, that branch of the industrial military complex that profiteers from the grief strife of war, which is the raw combination of American news day after day. The news media are key players.

Moreover listening to the news that somewhere around twenty two military persons from the Iraq, Afghanistan war are committing suicide every day.

As a Vietnam veteran reading and thinking about such alternatives for these military people makes me well up in a deep, deep sorrow with disbelieve and bewilderment. That tallies to about eight thousand troops a year. A number way far greater than what is lost in combat. America we are killing ourselves, Due to the great efforts of the Bush Republican Wahhabi Tea party policies. The Bin Laden/ Bush Cheney oil family is winning. Besides sacking the treasury these politicians load up on oil profiteering.

KenW I have never said America or Americans are terrible I love it down there I am just saying why are you ruining it with bad policy. Here we go again I come down there to get out of the cold and spend my hard earned dollars helping your economy and I get called a idiot. How can a nice guy like you be so mean. Lol

Add to that list of issue: Government Overeach, Green Energy Solution, War on Drugs, War on Terror, Military Industrial Complex, Homeland Security, Patriot Act, N.A.F.T.A. Two Party Ellection System, Voter Suppression, Immagration, Wellfare Reform...

Point is...Until We the People take action towards Abolishing Corporate Personhood and regain control in Washington, we will never resolve these matters, and "Our" country will become increasingly more and more facist...A philosophy and practice we once strongly opposed...Just ask all those who gave their lives during the Revolutionary War...Even as recent as WWII.

One way to change our way of thinking is through Comprehensive Studies in; American History, Civics, Humanities, World Social Studies, Critical Thinking, and classes on Non Violent Alternatives to Conflict Resolution; all these courses should be just as important in shaping and developing our future generations as Math and Science.

Well, I'm not sure what is more disturbing: the idea that Ken Ware is merely a sockpuppet; or, the idea that some malevolent puppeteer has his scaly arm up Ken Ware's sock hole. Oh well, that is not the vision I want to go to bed with. Therefore, I will comply with Mr. Ware's greatest wish.

I thank God that this country and our Government that our founding fathers laid out for us was able to elect a representative such as Maine's Independent Senator Angus King. Thanks to them a sane voice of reason was present in an otherwise insane meeting concerning the future use of deadly force everywhere on our planet. If this was any other country in the world, with any other government in the world, the entire hearing may have been completely one sided and in secret. Thank God I live in America.

That being said, let us prepare to support Senator King and all of his supporters in fixing this problem before it gets nasty. As far as I am concerned, Independents are the only way to vote from now on. Good night all!

Wikipedia defines sockpuppet, as opposed to sock puppet, as follows:

Quote Wikipedia:A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception. The term—a reference to the manipulation of a simple hand puppet made from a sock—originally referred to a false identity assumed by a member of an internet community who spoke to, or about, himself while pretending to be another person.[1] The term now includes other misleading uses of online identities, such as those created to praise, defend or support a third party or organization,[2] or to circumvent a suspension or ban from a website.

Wikipedia also goes on to mention government sockpuppetrey:

Quote Wikipedia:In 2011, a Californian company, Ntrepid, was awarded a $2.76 million contract under the auspices of US Central Command for "online persona management" operations[22] with the aim of creating "fake online personas to influence net conversations and spread US propaganda" in Arabic, Farsi, Urdu and Pashto.[22][23]

Interesting stuff, indeed! Perhaps a mutual cooperation may help to expose a list of such puppets on this blog to help save us the time and grief of responding to them? After all, we both have better things to do with our time than deal with this nonsense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)

Quote Palindromedary:The general idea is for the sock puppet to create an overall pro-government..pro-military consensus.

Ken Ware is a 'sock puppet.' Wow Palindromedary! You are right! That makes perfect sense--much more than Mr. Ware ever made. In fact, that explains everything he ever said.

In that case, I too was right. He would be right at home on Sesame Street.

I don't know if you noticed, but I have noticed that whenever Thom has a ridiculous topic--like immigration reform--almost immediately odd and new posters I've never seen before are immediately posted in support of Thom's strange position. It drives me nuts. I've suspected fraud from the word go. Have you noticed these strange new posts that pop in and then disappear forever? They don't even respond when you reply to them.

Yesterday I got into it with Kend. At one point he replied and actually agreed with himself. "I agree with Kend." Kend said. When I pressed him on it he said his wife wrote that post. Hmmmmm!

DAnneMarc: Yes, I know what you mean...I have often wondered why Ken seems to get so upset with us. There is actually a lot that we all agree on...except for a few certain topics. I know he got really upset once when I mentioned that the Pentagon was using sock puppets, and special software for creating various fake identities, in order to network various blog sites to direct and influence what people talked about and believed. They are using military and vets to do this....if certain things are mentioned (say 911) then the sock puppets go to work and try to deflect those ideas by various means. The general idea is for the sock puppet to create an overall pro-government..pro-military consensus. They might even tend to sound like they are in agreement with most of the topics...even ranting on Obama. As long as the certain topics don't get a positive spin...they have done their job.

DAnneMarc: Wow, thanks for those links..I watched them...very scary.

Ken: Sorry, Ken, but I gotta say these Gestapo pigs (the people testifying before the Armed Serviced Committee and some right wing congressmen at the link sites DAnneMarc gave us) are far more scarier than you are.

Ken, you old rascal...just wanted to say thank you for reading our messages..you must be reading them else how do you know what to gripe about. And you sure wouldn't be having any fun unless you were griping about us and sounding tough. I suppose that it is a real psychological thrill for you. I'm glad you're having fun...I sure am. Hey, man, the next time you are visiting Podunk, Alaska...just look me up and say hi. I have a couple of Polar Bear cousins who would just love to shake your hand.

Quote ken:
I have found it difficult to control my comments regarding my desire to hunt you down and skin you from a high pole, and that would be too good for either of you.

That's the spirit! Man, you are one tough guy! I'm almost shaking in my moccasins. ;-} Just another good reason to try to keep one's identity on the internet as hidden as possible (like not using one's real name, etc.)...there are so many weirdos out their with guns and with attitude problems (those are the ones with real mental problems)...you never know when those sickos are going to come gunning for you (or "hunt you down and skin you from a high pole").