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He's had at least one person die from heat exposure in his tent city.
We should have an agreement with the Mexican government to take them to the border where they would be picked up by Mexican authorities. Why don't we? That being said, I have worked with these people all of my life. Most of them are decent, fun, hardworking individuals. As someone who chose the hospitality industry as my work, I know that this situation has cost me any leverage at requesting a wage that keeps up with inflation, but I cannot blame any group of people who are simply trying to survive. I don't think people (on this side of the border) realize that Northern Mexico use to be successfully agricultural until we stole their water by damming the Rio Grande and Colorado rivers. Now they are a dust bowl. An excellent thing to do would be to build them the largest desalinization plants ever built using tidal energy and thermal vent energy on both coasts. Fund the building of an aquaduct system (put a lot of people to work), and give them a shot at repairing the damage we've done. Northern Mexico would be so pretty, the direction of the flow of immigration would reverse. It's the moral thing to do and I like the irony.
US justice system sucks Money is speech Corps are persons Boy are we ever screwed up 1981 Reaganomics Bush 1-2 Cheney- 2008- many years under the GOldman Greenspan Rubin Sommers Paulson 's FED / years under control of very con courts / judges led to global disaster / crash / depression / TARP / 2 long wars based on Bush's fear, lies and immense war profits. God Bless America !
Fijate bien-todos somos seres humanos.Siento muy agradecido que el gobierno de Mexico me lo doy la opportunidad de vivir y trabajar ahi por 2.5 anos.Yo soy Canadiense pero tengo confianza en mi conocimeinto de Espanol.We are all immigrants to the indigineous people of the New World.No one is pure anything-I am Cdn., Belgian, Scottish, Normand French and Dutch, perhaps some German and Scandinavian.Should I have to go back to where I came from-Scotland OK but I am French in name only.I only feel comfortable in the English and Spanish worlds.Karl Marx said workers of the world unite-not beat up on foreigners and scapegoat them.I am also grateful to the governments of Germany and China for letting me live and work there too.The whole world is becoming more cosmopolitan.
Jail and heavily Fine the employers not workers ! That will end US illegal labor problem real fast Reagan gave total amnesty in 1986 but left US border wide open What do you think was his motive ? More cheap labor for Corps. GOP has not changed just gotten much much worse, more devious & much more greedy. Obama admin has deported more illegals than Bush did in 8 long yrs
Added comment re. the question, "Does anyone feel sorry for them?" I do.
I'd be interested in knowing how many prisoners get heat stroke or related illnesses from heat exposure. And, yes, employers that knowingly hire illegal immigrants should bear some of the responsibility and not just fined. Fining them is the easy way out for them.
I'm new to Arizona, and live in Maricopa County. After hearing this story, I called the offices of Jan Brewer, Trent Franks, and John Kyl. I was informed that they have nothing to do with, or say about, Arpaio's outrageous treatment of his fellow human beings. I told them that anyone who doesn't vigorously condemn this treatment is offering de facto consent, and they should be ashamed of themselves. It is so hot here that I can barely stand going out to the laundry room to throw a load in the washing machine. I cannot even begin to describe the intensity of the heat, and the thought that any person would be imprisoned outdoors in these conditions is horrible to contemplate. If they can do it to anyone, they can do it to me. There is no doubt in my mind that this is torture, and anyone who goes along with it is a disgrace to the human race.
I have to agree with the last comment about dehumanization of the population here is AZ. I have been here all my life and have seen many changes in this arena. This has been going on since the states inception into statehood. As a matter of fact my family nor I would be here if it wasn't for wealthy americans looking for cheap labor. As far as our so called Sheriff.... he is a complete moron! He is not only endangering the lives of his prisoners but he is also putting his officers at risk. Can you imagine having to stand there in full guard uniform in the same 140 degree heat as the prisoners? And God forbid if a group of officers should say anything... Joe will send his informants out to find who in not conforming and they will be gone! I agree overcrowding is a problem and the tent city can deal with the overflow but only in months that are cool enough as not to endanger human life.... But Joe doesn't seem to give a shit about anything but his media machine.
And No Thom we shouldn't demand that business owners be held in that tent city (In downtown Phoenix not Tucson) We should demand that that tent city be put out of commission during the hottest times of the year.
Like waiters, hotel maids and dishwashers.
If they had dogs or cats in heat like that the public out cry would be overwhelming. Modern day Illegal immigrants are used against the American working class just like immigrants in the past and freed slaves, history shows those who are willing to look. The ruling class in America is willing to use any tactic to keep society fractured and resentful of eachother. The reason these human beings are treated so poorly is because they've been dehumanized. This situation exist because of the ruling class in America wanted cheap labor to fill their fields, meat packing plants, and other jobs they can get away with using a unprotected work force.
I watched a really interesting video that was produced by Prepare NY, an organization that is encouraging conversation about these types of issues in preparation for the tenth anniversary of 9/11. It's called We the People and you can see it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9apMRjugSA. It asked the question, are Americans afraid of immigrants? Isn't ironic that we have this tradition of fear here, when our country is supposedly founded on immigration and freedom from oppression?
It's amazing that we jail illegals, but do nothing to the employers who knowingly hire them
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Not trying to go too far off-subject, though it does pertain when you think about it.
My husband says Thom says he always reads his blog, and this is ever so important:
"L.A. NOW Southern California -- this just in Paris Hilton stalker arrested again July 4, 2011 | 8:55 pm"
Firstly it pertains, because Paris Hilton, Carlyle Marriott Fairfield, and Ramada Inns and Casinos are the same entity, and a "tent city" springs from a CT entity (CT either Corporation Trust or Company Town, syn.)
In my poem Submitted by leighmf on 25. June 2011 - 6:10 Oh, Omaha! I will cut right to the pertinent verse
"Ghastly, ghostly, ghouls and Walker,
Peter Falk, Whitey a Talker.
A Hollywood Star
will get a stalker."
Which of course is extra true by the fact that Paris had the stalker arrested, rather than him getting her. Unfortunately, In Katherine Kryder's case, G.H. Walker's stalker got her.
It was the week of Whitey Bulger and Whiteco behind the Billboard Junkets. These Lincoln Rhymes with Scene of the Crimes have been especially forthcoming since I was prescribed Linclonapin, sort of a Federal Reserve/Eli Lilly tranquilizer. I struggled to write the line "A Hollywood Star will get a Stalker" because I was torn between its phonetic triteness, and the anxiety state which said, "you better write this down now and get a date on it."
Regarding your "interesting call" today from the guy who claimed that the "solution" was smaller/no government. I have had this debate many times and usually end it like this:
No valid/worthwhile game can be played w/o rules. If we look at "business" as a game then there has to be rules and someone to create and then regulate/monitor those rules. The rules, and the regulation of those rules, are made by government which is to be representative of the evenly and equally distributed will of the people and must NOT to be prejudiced by artificial participants in the game -- like corporations.
http://www.cloudbyte.com/spending.html
Trade policy, social infrastructure and defense. We need to change our focus on all three, simple as that.
Cut defense spending (end our wars and occupations)
Invest in our infrastructure, and no ten year projects. We need major programs that we start now and when they are being finished up, other projects are waiting in the wings to be started on. From transportation and alternative power, to re-engineering city layouts to be more economically practical and environmentally sustainable. We should have a federal dept of infrastructure that is dedicated to directing improvements and determining priorities. Peterr Ferrara's thought of changing unemployment offices into work assignment offices is a practical way of providing the work force, but I disagree with the work being set a minimum wage levels, the pay should be at least equivalent to the same private sector wage for the given position. By Ferrara's setup, an out of work Engineer would be paid minimum wage if assigned a position working as an Engineer on a transportation project, so I just have to disagree with that part of his proposal.
End free trade agreements now, and raise tarrifs.
This is all that needs to be done, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I have never met Peter Ferrara. Peter Ferrara may be a loving husband who is kind to children and puppies. That being typed, Peter Ferrara’s public persona displays all the earmarks of purely sociopath thought when he appears on Thom’s show.
Thanks JLC!
Check out this great video, courtesy of YES Magazine: http://www.yesmagazine.org/new-economy/the-end-of-the-american-dream?utm_source=wkly20110701&utm_medium=yesemail&utm_campaign=titleVideo
Thom - - it sounds like you could have written the script to the video.
The debt defaulted on May 22nd. President Obama does not have to wait until August 2nd to be selective in how monies are disbursed. He can instruct Secretary of the Treasury Tim Geithner NOW to withhold payment to any debt. Withholding payment now would extend the August 2nd date since it would increase the available monies.
@Louise, thank you for that information!
Hi Gerald - comments from another website were cut & pasted here without permission from BradBlog in that post. You can put a link instead.
Ross had it right!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgx1C_S6ls
Please read this article!
http://movetoamend.org/publications-talks/abolish-corporate-personhood
Americans will always hear that sucking sound!!!
http://econintersect.com/wordpress/?p=5769
Well, the 4th is over...hopefully no more noise...which drove my little doggies insane....poor things...didn't know what was happening. No bullets came through the walls or roof...at my place anyway. At least, this year I was able to be home for the 4th...although it came and went and I did nothing to celebrate...didn't even go out to check the skies for the flashy entertainment. Doesn't interest me anymore. I started losing interest many, many years ago when I went to a company school in Orange county, Ca and stayed in a company house just a couple of blocks from Disneyland. After weeks and weeks of nightly racket...it loses it's excitement. I really don't understand how those residents can stand it.
I remember one time I was flying in from someplace at the same time that everyone across the US was out sending fireworks into the evening skies. I could look down and watch the whole country setting off their fireworks clear across the nation....from the east coast to the west coast. And just as we were circling to land they were firing off their arsenals and I was really, really hoping that no one was firing their weapons into the air at that time....and accidentally shoot down our plane.
Despite the noise this evening...it seemed like it was a lot less this year than previous years....thank goodness!