There's an analogy to be drawn to an episode of the Twilight Zone called, "He's Alive!" It was Twilight Zone's creator Rod Serling's warning to Americans that as long as ignorance and hate persists so too will characters who are perpetually hungry for greatness, who are looking to exploit ignorance and hate for honor and power.
On first look, Beck's rally seemed like an event organized so that tens of thousands of fearful easy-to-manipulate would give him a strokejob. When one goes deeper, it's much darker than that--Beck wanted a strokejob, but he wanted that to also be part of pushing the country closer to one that abandons religious pluralism, forsakes the idea of separation of church and state, and marches onward toward the kind of closed-minded society most Americans would condemn Muslims for instituting.
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It seems to me that our form of government resembles very little of what our founding fathers envisioned. Our Democracy is largely a facade. The Elite give a choice of their two candidates (two sides of the same coin). What we now have is a corporatocracy.
Thom, I believe one of the primary jobs of president is to be "Educator-in-Chief", explaining to the people how things work and why he needs to do the things he does.
I think President Obama fails miserably on that front, and it has a LOT to do with why the Right has so much momentum on their side.
(PS: How does the winner of "Comment of the Day" claim their prize? I've won twice (two weeks ago today and two years ago before that) and, despite emailing you my contact information, I have never received anything from the show. No one has ever tried to contact me either. Very disappointing.)
What ever people want it be. It all comes down to our creating God in our own image. We use religion to justify our world view. If we are self centered & judgmental, so is our God.
It always amazes me how little of Jesus' teaching many Christians follow.
HONOR? MY ASS!! Nothing says," restoring honor to the good'ol U.S. of A.", like the Clueless Clucking Clan (white hoods optional) packing up their broods into their gas-guzzling Hummers and schlepping their asses halfway across the country to grovel and drool at the feet of a bunch of cynical, money-grubbing political opportunists, led by a babbling, drug- addled, "Shock Jock"? - Incidentally, haven't these people noticed that they have an ungodly obsession with seeking divine inspiration, guidance and leadership from drug addicts, alcoholics, gamblers, warmongers, whoremongers, adulterers, sadistic torturers, self hating hypocritical liars and pedophiles?
But Beck was right about one thing. This was not a political event. - It was however, a cynical, grandiose charade, masked as a benefit for veterans, insidiously crafted to insure loyalty of the flock to the fold by allowing the devoted pilgrims to assuage themselves of any feelings of guilt and transfer any sense of blame that might have resulted from their complicity in aiding and abetting the Bush administration. - Yes, the same Bush administration that started an unnecessary war which may have killed up to one million people, left millions as refuges, destroyed an entire country's infrastructure, and recklessly took our own economy from the longest period of economic growth in modern times, to the brink of collapse and the deepest recession since the "Great Depression" while placing our debt in the receivership of Communist China. Not to mention - committing numerous acts of treason such as harassing vote counters in Florida's 2000 presidential election; scrubbing voter rosters in minority areas of legally registered voters, whose name just happened to be similar to convicted felons; and numerous other election shenanigans. - And not least, for committing the blatant treason of outing the identity of undercover CIA agent, Valerie Plame, in an effort to seek revenge for her husband telling the truth about the fraud of Saddam's efforts to obtain yellow cake uranium form Niger. Which the Bush administration touted as irrefutable proof to justify their illegal, immoral war. Of course, the list of crimes of the Bush administration goes on and on.
If I had supported such a criminal, scandal ridden, immoral administration; I too might be seeking to convince myself that I was righteous and not at fault, rather than bear the weight of shame and guilt for cheerleading such transgressions. And what better and easier way to do that, than by blaming all the problems on Barack Obama, who just happens to be our first black president; and blaming Mexican immigrants and believing that all muslims are terrorists. - After all, if Obama is the muslim antichrist and wrong about everything; then that means; we must be right. If we are the ones that say we are seeking out the "good" in this country. Then that means, liberals must be the bad ones. Or so they believe.
Ken Melman outing himself and Fox News totally ignoring the story tells you everything you need to know about the "Tea Party" mentality. That they will knowingly ignore any truths or facts that interfere with their treasonous ideology of opposite reality: "Clean Skies", means I can pollute with impunity; "Clear Water" means I can poison without conscience. If I name it the opposite of my intentions or my beliefs; then that makes that it's al right for me to do. If I hate and oppress gays, then no matter what the evidence there is to the contrary, I'm not gay. If I hate and oppress muslims, then that means that I'm not a terrorist. Even if I engage in a campaign of "Shock and Awe", that's sole purpose was to terrorize. Who needs a dictionary? When you can create your own definitions.
"Now see kids... mommy and daddy were right after all... and if you're afraid of global warming or climate change or whatever scary name they call it". "Then we'll just rename it, Operation Eden."
Watched Huckabee tonight on Fox News. They had a guest that is a Pychologist for the miltary preventing suicide. He stated that over 100,000 Vietnam veterans have committed suicide, more than were killed in in the entire war. And today in our modern wars (Afganistan, and Iraq), at least 5 soldiers a day attempt suicide. The military is trying to solve the problem. They have spent hundreds of millions on this problem. Maybe video games are an attempt to get youth use to the idea, and even love war. Maybe this is the militarys backdoor approach to solving the problem, just as other governments in history have done (ie. Imperial Rome) with different approaches, but with the same goal in mind.
You are so right! Look at Texas which has actually done a little better than most states during the recession i've heard on news sources like Fox. But actually only big business is doing well because large numbers of big business is actually owned or partially owned by foreigners. Texas has the largest proportion of business owned by foreigners than any other state in the Union. These countries are sucking us dry. And of course Texas is a so-called right-to-work state. Little or no unions. A hugh working poor in Texas keeps business going. The rest of the country slowly being forced into a Texas like economy.
This is my biggest pet peeve against both parties. Clinton even admitted that Nafta was a mistake let alone the trade with the Chinese. It seems no matter who gets into power, the middle class keeps sinking further into the economic abyss. If the Democrats do not pass powerful legislation to control the importation of cheap chinese junk into our country by the end of President Obamas term, I can never support the Dems or the Republiconmen ever again. The 15% unemployed could go to work in no time if there were terriffs on foreign made products from dictatorships like China. Capitalism means nothing without democracy. We have no "business" trading with China. Stop listening to neocon economists and their free-trade-religion they keep pedaling to us---"the free market can solve all problems", this idea is boloney. No modern industrialize country can compete with 3 cents an hour.
Sounds good that Iceland is attempting to supersize free speech with a clearinghouse for the truth. How come Iceland does not update their immigration laws that only allows scandanavian ancestry to immigrate to Iceland, in other words you have to be blond haired and blue eyed to become an Icelandic citizen. Is this still law in Iceland? If so, why is Iceland against a melting pot?
Because this issue illustrates that the left will drift to such lows of hypocrisy as the right. Mad about people protesting the community center, but were mad about people attending a rally at a public memorial? At that point, there is no high ground to surrender. It's gone. What did he say there to stand up against, anyway? Fight the imaginary, connect-the-dot chalkboard? It's the same right-wing mirage lacking substance. What is there to debate what he said?
The lines are drawn. There is nothing to say to this when were as fickle as them. There is no one on the left with the courage to raise our own movement to such heights and do something as Glenn did.
Where was Ed? Steph? Thom? They were at home watching it on TV, or trying to uncover some corporate funding that made this event possible. It's bad enough that we don't have anyone on our side with the humility to follow, but the lack of leadership surrendered our cause well before our egos bloated.
LoL, we can't beat a handful of uneducated liars? That goes to show you that they're not the reason why. We are. It's like a footrace. You keep looking over at your opponent, you will lose the race.
Our LDS neighbors were driven out of several states, such as Missouri and Illinois. Utah is where Brigham Young led them. The separation of church and state was established by men to whom the memories of the wars fought between Catholics and Protestants were still recent history. There was and remains a necessary need for the division between church and state. I fear the empty rhetoric of Sharron Angle and those who purport that the Christian right holds the answers for our nation. Funny, but I became a liberal because I am Christian.
dwalker81 says: Or, at best, I plan to just remain silent on the Glenn Beck issue.
Why would you not speak out against Beck? Sure, allow him his right but that doesn’t mean that those who oppose his views should remain silent, quite the contrary. Let him speak, yes, but then counter and oppose his garbage as vigorously, as loudly and as intelligently as you possibly can. Good people have been silent too long. We have surrendered the field to the hateful demagogues.
Thx Boris :)
I hope before too many folks get carried away with the crowd size of the Beckaplooza..
they remember that the Beach Boys old July 4th shows on the National Mall pulled in more people..
even the Annual Smoke-In pulls in quite a crowd.
http://www.smoke-in.org/j/
@solopocono- Great article:
Allow me to post the last 2 paragraphs:
There's an analogy to be drawn to an episode of the Twilight Zone called, "He's Alive!" It was Twilight Zone's creator Rod Serling's warning to Americans that as long as ignorance and hate persists so too will characters who are perpetually hungry for greatness, who are looking to exploit ignorance and hate for honor and power.
On first look, Beck's rally seemed like an event organized so that tens of thousands of fearful easy-to-manipulate would give him a strokejob. When one goes deeper, it's much darker than that--Beck wanted a strokejob, but he wanted that to also be part of pushing the country closer to one that abandons religious pluralism, forsakes the idea of separation of church and state, and marches onward toward the kind of closed-minded society most Americans would condemn Muslims for instituting.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Glenn-Beck-s-Restoring-Hon-by-Kevin-Gosztola-100830-906.html
Ban plastic bags in California! Californians. Please call your state representatives today. Vote on getting rid of plastic bags is going to happen soon. Plastic and plastic junk is filling the oceans- see this link to understand see this http://bit.ly/Yj243
It seems to me that our form of government resembles very little of what our founding fathers envisioned. Our Democracy is largely a facade. The Elite give a choice of their two candidates (two sides of the same coin). What we now have is a corporatocracy.
This Twilight Zone Episode-portrays Beck SO aptly-a MUST SEE!!!
Thanks to Kevin Gosztola from opednews.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNkl5HIqMU
Glenn Beck's Restoring Honor Rally: "He's Alive!"
The VERY worthwhile accompanying article:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Glenn-Beck-s-Restoring-Hon-by-Kevin-Gosztola-100830-906.html
Re Roosevelt "Government by organized money"
The documentary "Zeitgeist" illustrates what type of government we actually have.
Educator-in-Chief ----------------
Thom, I believe one of the primary jobs of president is to be "Educator-in-Chief", explaining to the people how things work and why he needs to do the things he does.
I think President Obama fails miserably on that front, and it has a LOT to do with why the Right has so much momentum on their side.
(PS: How does the winner of "Comment of the Day" claim their prize? I've won twice (two weeks ago today and two years ago before that) and, despite emailing you my contact information, I have never received anything from the show. No one has ever tried to contact me either. Very disappointing.)
Has anyone seen the addendum to "Zeitgeist"?
View Free Online:
http://vimeo.com/13726978
re: What is Christianity
Which is why Mahatma Gandhi said, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
I think this is the Forbes/Glenn Beck article:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0426/entertainment-fox-news-simon-schu...
Re: What is Christianity?
What ever people want it be. It all comes down to our creating God in our own image. We use religion to justify our world view. If we are self centered & judgmental, so is our God.
It always amazes me how little of Jesus' teaching many Christians follow.
HONOR? MY ASS!! Nothing says," restoring honor to the good'ol U.S. of A.", like the Clueless Clucking Clan (white hoods optional) packing up their broods into their gas-guzzling Hummers and schlepping their asses halfway across the country to grovel and drool at the feet of a bunch of cynical, money-grubbing political opportunists, led by a babbling, drug- addled, "Shock Jock"? - Incidentally, haven't these people noticed that they have an ungodly obsession with seeking divine inspiration, guidance and leadership from drug addicts, alcoholics, gamblers, warmongers, whoremongers, adulterers, sadistic torturers, self hating hypocritical liars and pedophiles?
But Beck was right about one thing. This was not a political event. - It was however, a cynical, grandiose charade, masked as a benefit for veterans, insidiously crafted to insure loyalty of the flock to the fold by allowing the devoted pilgrims to assuage themselves of any feelings of guilt and transfer any sense of blame that might have resulted from their complicity in aiding and abetting the Bush administration. - Yes, the same Bush administration that started an unnecessary war which may have killed up to one million people, left millions as refuges, destroyed an entire country's infrastructure, and recklessly took our own economy from the longest period of economic growth in modern times, to the brink of collapse and the deepest recession since the "Great Depression" while placing our debt in the receivership of Communist China. Not to mention - committing numerous acts of treason such as harassing vote counters in Florida's 2000 presidential election; scrubbing voter rosters in minority areas of legally registered voters, whose name just happened to be similar to convicted felons; and numerous other election shenanigans. - And not least, for committing the blatant treason of outing the identity of undercover CIA agent, Valerie Plame, in an effort to seek revenge for her husband telling the truth about the fraud of Saddam's efforts to obtain yellow cake uranium form Niger. Which the Bush administration touted as irrefutable proof to justify their illegal, immoral war. Of course, the list of crimes of the Bush administration goes on and on.
If I had supported such a criminal, scandal ridden, immoral administration; I too might be seeking to convince myself that I was righteous and not at fault, rather than bear the weight of shame and guilt for cheerleading such transgressions. And what better and easier way to do that, than by blaming all the problems on Barack Obama, who just happens to be our first black president; and blaming Mexican immigrants and believing that all muslims are terrorists. - After all, if Obama is the muslim antichrist and wrong about everything; then that means; we must be right. If we are the ones that say we are seeking out the "good" in this country. Then that means, liberals must be the bad ones. Or so they believe.
Ken Melman outing himself and Fox News totally ignoring the story tells you everything you need to know about the "Tea Party" mentality. That they will knowingly ignore any truths or facts that interfere with their treasonous ideology of opposite reality: "Clean Skies", means I can pollute with impunity; "Clear Water" means I can poison without conscience. If I name it the opposite of my intentions or my beliefs; then that makes that it's al right for me to do. If I hate and oppress gays, then no matter what the evidence there is to the contrary, I'm not gay. If I hate and oppress muslims, then that means that I'm not a terrorist. Even if I engage in a campaign of "Shock and Awe", that's sole purpose was to terrorize. Who needs a dictionary? When you can create your own definitions.
"Now see kids... mommy and daddy were right after all... and if you're afraid of global warming or climate change or whatever scary name they call it". "Then we'll just rename it, Operation Eden."
The combination of an ignorant public and political demagogues aligned with corporate wealth and religious extremism is what may destroy our nation.
Well? So much for No More King by Schoolhouse Rock
Watched Huckabee tonight on Fox News. They had a guest that is a Pychologist for the miltary preventing suicide. He stated that over 100,000 Vietnam veterans have committed suicide, more than were killed in
in the entire war. And today in our modern wars (Afganistan, and Iraq), at least 5 soldiers a day attempt suicide. The military is trying to solve the problem. They have spent hundreds of millions on this problem. Maybe video games are an attempt to get youth use to the idea, and even love war. Maybe this is the militarys backdoor approach to solving the problem, just as other governments in history have done (ie. Imperial Rome) with different approaches, but with the same goal in mind.
You are so right! Look at Texas which has actually done a little better than most states during the recession i've heard on news sources like Fox. But actually only big business is doing well because large numbers of big business is actually owned or partially owned by foreigners. Texas has the largest proportion of business owned by foreigners than any other state in the Union. These countries are sucking us dry. And of course Texas is a so-called right-to-work state. Little or no unions. A hugh working poor in Texas keeps business going. The rest of the country slowly being forced into a Texas like economy.
This is my biggest pet peeve against both parties. Clinton even admitted that Nafta was a mistake let alone the trade with the Chinese. It seems no matter who gets into power, the middle class keeps sinking further into the economic abyss. If the Democrats do not pass powerful legislation to control the importation of cheap chinese junk into our country by the end of President Obamas term, I can never support the Dems or the Republiconmen ever again. The 15% unemployed could go to work in no time if there were terriffs on foreign made products from dictatorships like China. Capitalism means nothing without democracy. We have no "business" trading with China. Stop listening to neocon economists and their free-trade-religion they keep pedaling to us---"the free market can solve all problems", this idea is boloney. No modern industrialize country can compete with 3 cents an hour.
Sounds good that Iceland is attempting to supersize free speech with a clearinghouse for the truth. How come Iceland does not update their immigration laws that only allows scandanavian ancestry to immigrate to Iceland, in other words you have to be blond haired and blue eyed to become an Icelandic citizen. Is this still law in Iceland? If so, why is Iceland against a melting pot?
Because this issue illustrates that the left will drift to such lows of hypocrisy as the right. Mad about people protesting the community center, but were mad about people attending a rally at a public memorial? At that point, there is no high ground to surrender. It's gone. What did he say there to stand up against, anyway? Fight the imaginary, connect-the-dot chalkboard? It's the same right-wing mirage lacking substance. What is there to debate what he said?
The lines are drawn. There is nothing to say to this when were as fickle as them. There is no one on the left with the courage to raise our own movement to such heights and do something as Glenn did.
Where was Ed? Steph? Thom? They were at home watching it on TV, or trying to uncover some corporate funding that made this event possible. It's bad enough that we don't have anyone on our side with the humility to follow, but the lack of leadership surrendered our cause well before our egos bloated.
LoL, we can't beat a handful of uneducated liars? That goes to show you that they're not the reason why. We are. It's like a footrace. You keep looking over at your opponent, you will lose the race.
Our LDS neighbors were driven out of several states, such as Missouri and Illinois. Utah is where Brigham Young led them. The separation of church and state was established by men to whom the memories of the wars fought between Catholics and Protestants were still recent history. There was and remains a necessary need for the division between church and state. I fear the empty rhetoric of Sharron Angle and those who purport that the Christian right holds the answers for our nation. Funny, but I became a liberal because I am Christian.
Here's a bumper sticker
Fox News Nation: The Last Refuge for Scoundrels
Here's a bumper sticker:
Fox News Nation: The Last Refuge for Scoundrels
Let's just do this to our opponents!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bjOduQ-Cd0
dwalker81 says: Or, at best, I plan to just remain silent on the Glenn Beck issue.
Why would you not speak out against Beck? Sure, allow him his right but that doesn’t mean that those who oppose his views should remain silent, quite the contrary. Let him speak, yes, but then counter and oppose his garbage as vigorously, as loudly and as intelligently as you possibly can. Good people have been silent too long. We have surrendered the field to the hateful demagogues.