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@Maxrot-
Are you familar with the concept of the Body Electric and polarity testing? It is about energy that is empowering versus energy that is hopeless and apologetic and lifeless and slcheprock. The President is slchleprocky to me too often. HE is the leader, he sets the tone for the nation. He is not at his best. We need to rev him up just like the parish that revved up MLK JR.
Think tanks are mercenary organization. They're the royal shortcut in the research grant game. There will always be paying gigs for people to tell the Establishment what it wants to hear.
The Gulf oil disaster will never be resolved. Spill baby spill is here to stay in the Gulf for at least one century.
The oil disaster will be Obama's OilLoo.
I now proclaim that Obama's regime can RIP. Put a fork in him he is done!!!
I enjoyed Jonathan's comments on Thom's radio show. What is Obama really saying when he talks?
Obama's regime is transparent. Take a look at who is part of his regime! He has the same flunkies and lackies who served Clinton and Bush II.
@Foodfacist, all those points are fine and I agree completely. However, what your talking about is clean up and future prevention. What I'm trying to point out is that, the government does not have the equipment or trained personnel to do anything about the source of the problem, the oil spew from the ocean floor. We can opine all we want about what should have been in place or what should be done in the future, but the reality is what it is, and whether Obama or Gore or whoever is in the White House, it doesn't matter the lack of regulations brought us this oil spew and will continue to spew until it either is stopped or depletes itself.
Also, realistically if Obama made such drastic changes to the fossil fuel industry, he wouldn't make it to the end of his first term, and the changes he tried to make would be rolled back.
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@MAXROT Great idea on solar and wind combined. I have never read about that but you might like seeing Future City if you have not done so already. Along the freeways in Germany are solar panels. Well in Future City, it is thought that the cars going by wind turbines would turn them.
I think this was actually shown in the documentary Thom was in called the Eleventh Hour- Leonardo Di Caprio
Here it is http://www.popsci.com/futurecity/home2.html
What I would like to hear from President Obama tonight? Why is Salazar not fired and arrested yet?
Why is the administration continuing to keep in place many of the top officials who oversaw the culture of corruption.
Corruption is rampant in America from the Congress to the Courts to the agencies that oversee all of the oversight capabilities of products, procedures, banks, you name it.
Obama continues to allow it all. He seems incapable of doing the job.
I would like to hear him explain why he keeps all these corrupted officials in charge of our national oversight capability across the board.
!MAXROT- Bull- He cant do much about it -
1. Set up a detour or structure with acoustics to route wildlife away from the Gulf
2. Set up search and rescue teams to get wildlife out of the area and to safety- fish could be netted and re-located
3. Francois Vorster Super Suck Vacuum http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/37600863#37600863
4. Francois phone numbers +27 728340190, +27 79932155
5. Let James Cameron and his equipment in
6. Get Kevin Costner’s separators in
7. Hold international panels
8. Bring in other teams, make everything having to do with the disaster public.
9. Develop a better blog for everyone to join in with their ideas, and not BP’s pacification hotline.
10. Use BIOGREEN CLEAN instead of DAWN by Proctor & Gamble that performs animal testing and harmful chemicals.
11. Do a full scale surveillance of all the drilling rigs.
12. Allow the foreign countries to help as they have offered with skimmers, technology, intellectual contributions
13. Allow the media more access, what is with the no fly zone.
14. Every single time a platform is set up with a drill, booms and mechanical skimmers should be hired to sit and be there, just like cruise liners have life boats
15. Relief wells should be drilled simultaneously, as they are mandated in foreign countries.
16. An international regulation arm of the UN perhaps.
17. Nationalize the oil industry and force them to expand solar and wind.
18. Put the southern states to work on solar thermal and solar panel projects. Give them the green work that Van Jones was supposed to plan out for us. They could also build vertical farming projects so that their food supply is preserved.
19. The Whitehouse should put solar panels on the Whitehouse, just as an organic garden was.
BTW does anyone know if wind turbines can also double as solar collectors too? It seems to me that there is a lot of surface area on these turbines, and I've been wondering recently why could they be covered with photovotalic cells that send electricty through another internal set of wires inside the main column. Just seem like a wonderful way to get more bang for your buck if you're simultaneaously using wind and solar power.
Just curious if any one knows if this is doable or if there are reasons that it can't be done.
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Oh, you're so right. The Heritage Foundation is a Disinformation Tank.
And while we are at using the proper terms, why don't we call "Special Interests" what they really are?
"Agents of Bribery"
And the politicians who accept their money? "Corrupt".
And the money itself? BRIBE
Sounds good to me.
Sure we have the Saudi Arabia of wind in the Midwest Thom, but we don't want to deplete that resource, after-all it directly fuels so many blowhards in congress. ;-)
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2 months ago BP capitalization was 200B.
@Foodfacist, I don't think Thom and Stephanie are in a big fight, but her co-hosts are definitely using Thom soundbites for their arguments. I believe Thom thinks in bigger terms than to just say Obama is a corporatist and leave it at that, even when he makes such statements he details what he means as well as placing caveats.
Heck, the reality is there is little Obama can do about the spill. He can, however, use this as an opportunity to push for a lot of "Green" initiatives, as well as mandating far stricter regulations on all fossil fuel industries.
As to your other point about possibly joining the Green party if Obama displeases you with his speech. As a Green party member, I welcome you with open arms, we need as many thoughtful and determined activists we can get. Even if you don't ultimately join the greens, by all means get in touch with PDAmerica, or other such groups. Being a "Democratic Party Member" isn't as important as being an "Active Progressive".
The market capitalization of BP is 98.43 Billion dollars. Where is Thom getting the $200,000,000 figure?
Wall St put Obama into power.
@Chuckle-
And solar thermal is being priced out at .12 kWh/
RE Obama has to break free of the DLC
Sounds like wishful thinking.
Who do you think put Obama in power?
lol- Jim Ward kept bringing up the Tim Dickerson article from the Rolling Stone to bolster his argument this morning. No doubt Jim is smiling big right now to know this will be discussed - here.
YES, I also heard that Rahm Emmanual's rent was paid by BP - finally, something we can work on to get that bastard out of the Whitehouse.
I find it interesting that Dr. K said the Danes have to pay 30 cents per KWH is a problem. I looked at my So. Cal Edison bill and the top tier is 31 cents per KWH.
So here's my short list of actions I'd like to seen taken as an answer to this BP disaster:
1. Call for an increase in tariffs so the Government can convert that income directly into incentives for citizens, companies and local governments to install solar and/or wind energy on private and public properties.
2. Government direct investment into factories that manufacture clean alternative energy equipment.
3. Create a special subsidary of the Fire Dept, and train peresonnel that can deal with such disasters of the BP magnitude, or Katrina, etc... that can actually operate the equipment as well as organize the response effort. This Department would do as the Fire Dept does, and permit companies. Therefore if they feel they can't prevent, stop or properly limit an accident they won't permit it.
4. Start a CCC like organization, begin with using these workers as Gulf Clean-up personnel first, then move them on to restoring and maintaining our country's natural parks.
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Thom,
Did you know that you and Stephanie Miller are having a huge debate over whether The President is a corporatist or not? Today her and the mooks were really duking it out. She cornered both of them by saying we need to support the President more just like the Republicans fall in line with their leader. The mooks began using "Thom Hartmann says...." as a defense for their argument. It flummixed her for awhile but fighter that she is....you and she are in a big fight :).
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David Kreutzer is a very rude caller, talking over Thom and having no manners to speak of.
I can't be the only listener who wishes guests and callers who have no manners would be cut off. I remember the "old days" when you had to have manners to be on the public airwaves.
Yes, yes, Kreutzer illustrates the odeous nature of his ilk. But I don't like beginning my day with his like in my ear.
@mstaggerlee, I believe you're confusing sound science practices with thinking.
Its a moot point though, I guess we should call them a Conservative Strategist Tank, its more of an accurate description of why and what they do do.
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Charlie Pierce said on the Stephanie Miller show today that he is tired of having a President whose default position seems to be that he can't do anything about it.
I so do not like to remind what' Bin Laden' said about Obama taknig presidency, which was that he would be the Whitehouse N_ _ _ _ _.
We are in so..........much trouble right now................. and if he goes to Nuclear this evening, I am going to lose it and go sign up for the Green Party...yes of course I will vote the Democratic President, but I do like the idea of working locally.