I, respectfully, disagree with your argument on the following basis: The planet is running out of oil. This means that in an unknown, but finite time period, all locally owned (as well as corporate) gas stations will be out of business. Logically, we can assume that not all the companies will go under at the same time, so we can extrapolate that someone will be the first company to become insolvent. I argue that BP, based on their corporate behavior, should be the first casualty. I am sorry that many local owners will lose their business, but, as I've already stated, this is inevitable.
and as far as the original post goes, they should see what the residents of Colorado Springs think about their basic services disappearing due to massive tax cuts
Pigeon Alert literally crashes into Full Monty alert
hey Thom- whilst riding in the <a href="http://www.atxbs.com/?q=node/2989" >world naked bike ride </a>(link NSFW) in Austin on Saturday a pigeon flew out from a building on Congress Avenue (Austin's Main Street) and crashed into my face (no serious damage, but quite the surprise.) I expected it's navigational system would have been good enough to avoid me, but apparently the leaders from the planet Xenu were so freaked out by the display of naked flesh they sent a disrupt and destroy signal to their robot underlings
I want a FAIR tax proponent to explain to me how their proposal is more fair than making the tax truly flat. Every man woman and child should pay the same amount, just like buying a ticket to see a movie. Those unable to pay can get loans from the private sector. Of course because of the risk individuals should expect to pay higher than normal interest rates, above 30% would not surprise me. If we are going to be fair, we should not go half-way.
I am in complete agreement with your statements about California elections. I live in NM, but my son, daughter and income live in CA. I wish I could vote there.
I heard on another program here in ABQ that Goldman-Sachs forced a new low, both in the stock market and in morality. It was called a "forced recession" and was done in response to a Congressional debate. True?
Apparently Obama lost health care for unemployed Americans and yet we bail out crooks and thieves in our financial institutions with billions of dollars. The United States of Hell DISGUSTS ME.
Here are two great articles from Tikkun Daily, May 30, 2010, "The Man of Reason?" by Eli Zaretsky and June 3, 2010, "2.5 Trillion and Counting" by Craig Wiesner.
Eli Zaretsky in the Tikkun Daily, June 12, 2010, writes an article that caring Americans must read. The title of the article is "The Meaning of the Oil Spill." I am now ready to say that Obama is the equivalent of a Chicago mobster. Obama is a corporatist!!!
Thanks for the input. I do not think it is racist for one of the water coolers, as much as, a prejudice against "white trash". The other water cooler is more philosophical (except the voting part is down to earth). They are along the lines of Greenspan when he says we need to keep unemployment high so workers will not be willing to strike for higher wages. Greenspan also says (per Thom) that highly skilled workers make too much so we need more H1B visas. Since the second water cooler consists mostly of highly paid engineers, I probably do not need much help with them except to convince them that what Greenspan says applies to the entire Republican party.
@chuckle8 - Yes, I've heard that arguement, too - and do we need to ask exactly WHO it is that they are afraid will become the slackers? I've never heard a conservobot complain about them damn lazy white folk! So, one tactic you can take is to see if you can back them into the race corner. This, however, can lead to some very uncomfortable relations in the future - closet racists DO NOT LIKE being outed!
So, how else can you combat this notion? Simple - BOREDOM! People NEED something to occupy their time. Do you REALLY know anybody (who is not seriously, clinically depressed - and they need medical attention ... see below) who can simply sit around for weeks at a time and NOT get bored out of their mind? I certainly can't, and I'm not aware of anyone who can. Boredom is a WONDERFUL motivator. My wife has been out of work for about a year now, and she's beside herself with boredom. She's even considering a supermarket job - quite a step down from her last position (director of a progressive private school), but there you have it!
As far as the depressed folk are concerned (and I can count myself among thjeir number - yesterday was the 9th anniversary of my son's death, and I've been on anti-depressents almost constantly since then) get them the meds they need to adjust their brain chemistry, and they'll stop being such slackers.
So there's a couple of ideas. Good luck at the water cooler!
@chuckle8, if your adversaries are truly convinced about slackers increasing in number then they should consider that it will give hard working son-of-bitches like them to get ahead because the competion will be sleeping. Second when it comes down to it, worrying about other peoples lifestyle is no excuse for being an ass.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! They typed the word "PLAN" and GOP in the same sentence . . . ROTFLMAO!
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/the-gop-plan-for-making-bp-pay-trust-bp.php
I, respectfully, disagree with your argument on the following basis: The planet is running out of oil. This means that in an unknown, but finite time period, all locally owned (as well as corporate) gas stations will be out of business. Logically, we can assume that not all the companies will go under at the same time, so we can extrapolate that someone will be the first company to become insolvent. I argue that BP, based on their corporate behavior, should be the first casualty. I am sorry that many local owners will lose their business, but, as I've already stated, this is inevitable.
and as far as the original post goes, they should see what the residents of Colorado Springs think about their basic services disappearing due to massive tax cuts
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473
Pigeon Alert literally crashes into Full Monty alert
hey Thom- whilst riding in the <a href="http://www.atxbs.com/?q=node/2989" >world naked bike ride </a>(link NSFW) in Austin on Saturday a pigeon flew out from a building on Congress Avenue (Austin's Main Street) and crashed into my face (no serious damage, but quite the surprise.) I expected it's navigational system would have been good enough to avoid me, but apparently the leaders from the planet Xenu were so freaked out by the display of naked flesh they sent a disrupt and destroy signal to their robot underlings
Well, you can always threaten them by saying, if they refuse to pay their trash bill, they sanitation company won't deliever
I want a FAIR tax proponent to explain to me how their proposal is more fair than making the tax truly flat. Every man woman and child should pay the same amount, just like buying a ticket to see a movie. Those unable to pay can get loans from the private sector. Of course because of the risk individuals should expect to pay higher than normal interest rates, above 30% would not surprise me. If we are going to be fair, we should not go half-way.
Riadlof
I am in complete agreement with your statements about California elections. I live in NM, but my son, daughter and income live in CA. I wish I could vote there.
I do not know if Alan Grayson will be re-elected in November, but I respect his work. He reveals to me a profile in courage. Thank you Alan!!!
Whenever Obama speaks, I am starting to experience the dry heaves.
I heard on another program here in ABQ that Goldman-Sachs forced a new low, both in the stock market and in morality. It was called a "forced recession" and was done in response to a Congressional debate. True?
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/06/12/plans-to-clean-up-the-oil-spill--dolphins-with-mops-aquaman-or-blame-the-french.aspx
If I have previously posted this article, please forgive me. It is too important of an article not to read.
Apparently Obama lost health care for unemployed Americans and yet we bail out crooks and thieves in our financial institutions with billions of dollars. The United States of Hell DISGUSTS ME.
Why is the United States of Hell such a hell hole and these countries are not???
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/12/worlds-most-peaceful-coun_n_608261.html#s98956
It is an official policy under Bush and Obama.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Torture-and-Research-Exper-by-Stephen-Lendman-100612-308.html
Here are two great articles from Tikkun Daily, May 30, 2010, "The Man of Reason?" by Eli Zaretsky and June 3, 2010, "2.5 Trillion and Counting" by Craig Wiesner.
The real Obama!!!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Do-Nothing-44th-Presid-by-David-Michael-Gree-100611-648.html
Neat information! Screwed again!
http://www.opednews.com/populum/linkframe.php?linkid=113330
More evidence in the life of a mobster!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Obama-and-secret-wars-by-Teresa-Albano-100611-936.html
Maybe life's answer is that we should all grow up to be Amish!
http://open.salon.com/blog/1_irritated_mother/2010/06/11/when_i_grow_up_i_want_to_be_amish
Eli Zaretsky in the Tikkun Daily, June 12, 2010, writes an article that caring Americans must read. The title of the article is "The Meaning of the Oil Spill." I am now ready to say that Obama is the equivalent of a Chicago mobster. Obama is a corporatist!!!
A great article to read!
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/06/12/plans-to-clean-up-the-oil-spill--dolphins-with-mops-aquaman-or-blame-the-french.aspx
Thanks for the input. I do not think it is racist for one of the water coolers, as much as, a prejudice against "white trash". The other water cooler is more philosophical (except the voting part is down to earth). They are along the lines of Greenspan when he says we need to keep unemployment high so workers will not be willing to strike for higher wages. Greenspan also says (per Thom) that highly skilled workers make too much so we need more H1B visas. Since the second water cooler consists mostly of highly paid engineers, I probably do not need much help with them except to convince them that what Greenspan says applies to the entire Republican party.
@chuckle8 - Yes, I've heard that arguement, too - and do we need to ask exactly WHO it is that they are afraid will become the slackers? I've never heard a conservobot complain about them damn lazy white folk! So, one tactic you can take is to see if you can back them into the race corner. This, however, can lead to some very uncomfortable relations in the future - closet racists DO NOT LIKE being outed!
So, how else can you combat this notion? Simple - BOREDOM! People NEED something to occupy their time. Do you REALLY know anybody (who is not seriously, clinically depressed - and they need medical attention ... see below) who can simply sit around for weeks at a time and NOT get bored out of their mind? I certainly can't, and I'm not aware of anyone who can. Boredom is a WONDERFUL motivator. My wife has been out of work for about a year now, and she's beside herself with boredom. She's even considering a supermarket job - quite a step down from her last position (director of a progressive private school), but there you have it!
As far as the depressed folk are concerned (and I can count myself among thjeir number - yesterday was the 9th anniversary of my son's death, and I've been on anti-depressents almost constantly since then) get them the meds they need to adjust their brain chemistry, and they'll stop being such slackers.
So there's a couple of ideas. Good luck at the water cooler!
California's two corporatist republicans (ok - redundantcy acknowledged) are being exposed:
Meg Whitman: http://www.leveltheplayingfield2010.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q28mq9W3bKE
Carly Fiorina:
www.fiorinafacts.com
re #47: worrying about other peoples' life styles is what parents, co-dependents and fundamentalist christians do.
@chuckle8, if your adversaries are truly convinced about slackers increasing in number then they should consider that it will give hard working son-of-bitches like them to get ahead because the competion will be sleeping. Second when it comes down to it, worrying about other peoples lifestyle is no excuse for being an ass.
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