The cost to local communities who need to subsidize families who are paid low wages by parasitic corporations like Wal Mart
Courts that uphold contracts
Road building and maintenance (though trucking firms do pay some taxes for this)
Increased health insurance costs from the failure to cover everyone or every disease
Loss of savings and wages from irresponsible and greedy gambling by Wall Street
Air traffic control, military and state department protection of business interests, regulatory agencies that would be largely unecessary if some corporations wouldn't always put profit before common good, etc. etc., etc. and etc.
So I don't want to hear whining from the huge corps or the Kochs about how terribly unfair we are to business. Near as I can tell we all contribute plenty for their benefit. Citizens can turn this around -but not from their Laz-e-boys. They need to not only vote, but get off their asses and volunteer to show others who is really screwing them.
Republicans have succeeded in damaging our country far more than many realize -the only reason there is not an uprising is that we are coasting on the public investments we've made over many decades. As bridges crumble, kids can't go to college, public education gets sold off -I hope voters won't continue to be frogs in hot water.
Truth is the problem. Corporations are so profit driven there is no concern for workers. They may say they believe in safety but what they believe in is keeping lawsuits down. We get no truth from the main TV news shows about how the American public helps corporations to make more & more money while the American public makes less & less money. From Fox News we get a flowing river of lies designed to promote the welfare of corporations. Politicians lie and say they will help the people but only help corporations when they get in office. Elected officials swear to uphold the constitution but use their office to promote their Christian faith when they know that the constitution prohibits them from doing so. The truth is there are more people who are decieved by corporations, news outlets, and politicians than there are people who seek and recieve the truth. We are a nation of ill-informed and miss-informed people. So until we are better informed about what's really going on in this country, corporations will keep taking what they want from us The truth is "lying" is the problem.
Very good article Thom, but I'm not sure how we truely can estimate what is owed. Yes, corproations do not pay their "fair share". They use every accounting trick in the book and more than a few which aren't even in the book. How else can you explain mulitnational companies like Exxon and many others who not only pay notin in taxes, but actually get millions back, or corporations which offshore assets or outsource jobs overseas and still get tax breaks and access to taxpayer based funds? Of course, there is the costs to the average America in their control of Congress, the presidency, and the judicial system and the windfalls they make through their manipulation of policies and laws, or abiity to acquire public lands or use of public lands at below fair market value. What about their damage to the environment or harvesting of ideas and inventions that could change, for instance, the amount of polution put into the air or curtail alternative energy projects? And there's the taxpayer based "superfunds" to clean up their industry's waste rather than have the industry itself be responsible to the cleanup. How do we calculate those costs?
Can we be a bit more concise? When we talk about "Corporate" power, it bothers me who we are talking about. Which corporations are the worst offenders, and which the least parasitic and egregious? I work in a business with 50 employees, and I think the business owners believe they are a "corporation" insofar as they are trying to make profits, but I also think they fail to see that their business suffers because many of the larger corporations don't have to follow the same rules that they do.
ChicagoMatt, local control is good on somethings and maybe sometimes on educational standards but there is also reason for at least some universal standards. Like with math and science, even in history and social science not everything is controvertible in any genuine sense.
Millions do believe he's a journalist and not a paid corporate hack with a huge ego to boot. He should be held accountable for all of his lies and take partial blame for dividing this country, FOX SLOP spews out hate 24/7. If they spoke like this with a Republican in the White House they would be called out as unpatriotic.
Bill is not a news anchor so he should not be held to the same standers as Williams. Peaple who don't wacth fake news know he is not truth full. You can call him what you would like. Keep up the good fight. Peace Out!
I think what most aren't getting it. That it been said 30 years ago that the caps hold more oil, gold and minerals than the whole world. The Koch Brothers knows this and wants the caps to melt. The video that was shown several years ago stating this said due to the ice and harsh conditions there won't be a way to get to it.....
It is good if you understand the feelings of others and help them solving their problems. You can use this skill for as well. There are number of psychological institutes which read the mind of people and give them a medical treatment. However, you can do this through psychological courses in Dubai which will make you officially eligible for this purpose.
Greenthumb, you're clearly tolerant of typos - or else kinda a hypocrtite. The problem with appointing oneself the monitor is that not everyone shares your priorities and concerns (and definitions - of what constitutes a "personal attack", for example).
What if they, of whom you disapprove, appointed themselves the authority? You would have to conduct yourself by their values and intolerances. Wouldn't that be awful?
BTW, Kend's spelling is atrocious - further proof he's a scoundrel. ;^)
Interestingly, Mark, conservatives want to retain the appearance of democracy, because this gives them a regular opportunity to kick out of office anyone that doesn't do their bidding and install a new meat puppet. It's odd that having a monarchy might protect us from another sort of tyranny. Of course, we the people are supposed to use that replacement opportunity, but we still allow an incumbency rate of 95% or so, and often use it on the wrong office holders.
rnturn: I agree with you about AP courses in high school. My point is that we should not elect representatives, who have power over our educational systems, who cannot even pass non-AP high school curricula.
Mark J. Saulis: I am not really new here; I am just not a "regular," but I do participate in several on-line forums like Thom's if the topics interest me. My complaint against personal attacks and foul language is the same for all - that resorting to them detracts from any arguement or comment.
DAnneMark: You might want to check your spelling in the first paragraph of your most recent comment.
Personally, I am much more tolerant of typos and spelling errors than personal attacks.
That scumbag Bill is a disgrace to America!!!!!
Left out of the accounting:
So I don't want to hear whining from the huge corps or the Kochs about how terribly unfair we are to business. Near as I can tell we all contribute plenty for their benefit. Citizens can turn this around -but not from their Laz-e-boys. They need to not only vote, but get off their asses and volunteer to show others who is really screwing them.
Republicans have succeeded in damaging our country far more than many realize -the only reason there is not an uprising is that we are coasting on the public investments we've made over many decades. As bridges crumble, kids can't go to college, public education gets sold off -I hope voters won't continue to be frogs in hot water.
CT,
Since Singapore has well trained, prosperous workers, low crime, and Asia's cleanest air
What reforms could they possibly need?
Excellent article.
Suggest two stratagies to improve prosperity of the modern US worker
who without a union is now at the mercy of corporate power.
1. Adapt the German model where 1/2 the board of directors are by
law required to be active workers.
2. Eliminate corp tax if the company reinvests its profits in a select list
of US private or goverment enterprises.
Not enough space here to show detailed advantages of these proposals
but would also mention Singapore.
While aware of Tom's view of authoritarian capitalism of Singapore,
it offers simple buisness rules, flat tax of 10%, and well trained workers.
Although their model needs democratic reforms, they do have prosperous workers,
relatively low crime, and Asia's cleanest air.
In this modern world, multi national capital can move anywhere, and the US
must attract it in a manner beneficial to all parties.
ct
State Capitalism at its finest.
Truth is the problem. Corporations are so profit driven there is no concern for workers. They may say they believe in safety but what they believe in is keeping lawsuits down. We get no truth from the main TV news shows about how the American public helps corporations to make more & more money while the American public makes less & less money. From Fox News we get a flowing river of lies designed to promote the welfare of corporations. Politicians lie and say they will help the people but only help corporations when they get in office. Elected officials swear to uphold the constitution but use their office to promote their Christian faith when they know that the constitution prohibits them from doing so. The truth is there are more people who are decieved by corporations, news outlets, and politicians than there are people who seek and recieve the truth. We are a nation of ill-informed and miss-informed people. So until we are better informed about what's really going on in this country, corporations will keep taking what they want from us The truth is "lying" is the problem.
Very good article Thom, but I'm not sure how we truely can estimate what is owed. Yes, corproations do not pay their "fair share". They use every accounting trick in the book and more than a few which aren't even in the book. How else can you explain mulitnational companies like Exxon and many others who not only pay notin in taxes, but actually get millions back, or corporations which offshore assets or outsource jobs overseas and still get tax breaks and access to taxpayer based funds? Of course, there is the costs to the average America in their control of Congress, the presidency, and the judicial system and the windfalls they make through their manipulation of policies and laws, or abiity to acquire public lands or use of public lands at below fair market value. What about their damage to the environment or harvesting of ideas and inventions that could change, for instance, the amount of polution put into the air or curtail alternative energy projects? And there's the taxpayer based "superfunds" to clean up their industry's waste rather than have the industry itself be responsible to the cleanup. How do we calculate those costs?
Thom--
With corp. over--sight and corp. regs., how much of a check should mother earth get?
uppernaz12348 -- RE#18 Are you aware that Daddy Koch called Ike a commie?
Dream on, Thom. Great idea, Mark!
Let's run those closed factories ourselves and transform them into worker-owned co-ops!
Can we be a bit more concise? When we talk about "Corporate" power, it bothers me who we are talking about. Which corporations are the worst offenders, and which the least parasitic and egregious? I work in a business with 50 employees, and I think the business owners believe they are a "corporation" insofar as they are trying to make profits, but I also think they fail to see that their business suffers because many of the larger corporations don't have to follow the same rules that they do.
The only problem with them giving each of us a 10k check is that soon after that a loaf of bread will cost 5k.
They can leave this country if they want - they already have mostly - we'll take their closed factories and run them ourselves.
ChicagoMatt, local control is good on somethings and maybe sometimes on educational standards but there is also reason for at least some universal standards. Like with math and science, even in history and social science not everything is controvertible in any genuine sense.
Millions do believe he's a journalist and not a paid corporate hack with a huge ego to boot. He should be held accountable for all of his lies and take partial blame for dividing this country, FOX SLOP spews out hate 24/7. If they spoke like this with a Republican in the White House they would be called out as unpatriotic.
With the help of the Surpreme Court they have stoleden the country and we are going to need to fight to getb it back! Peace out!
Bill is not a news anchor so he should not be held to the same standers as Williams. Peaple who don't wacth fake news know he is not truth full. You can call him what you would like. Keep up the good fight. Peace Out!
I think what most aren't getting it. That it been said 30 years ago that the caps hold more oil, gold and minerals than the whole world. The Koch Brothers knows this and wants the caps to melt. The video that was shown several years ago stating this said due to the ice and harsh conditions there won't be a way to get to it.....
It is good if you understand the feelings of others and help them solving their problems. You can use this skill for as well. There are number of psychological institutes which read the mind of people and give them a medical treatment. However, you can do this through psychological courses in Dubai which will make you officially eligible for this purpose.
:
we the people? representing the people? on earth?
Sure, locally or internationally, small "d" democracy.
Greenthumb, you're clearly tolerant of typos - or else kinda a hypocrtite. The problem with appointing oneself the monitor is that not everyone shares your priorities and concerns (and definitions - of what constitutes a "personal attack", for example).
What if they, of whom you disapprove, appointed themselves the authority? You would have to conduct yourself by their values and intolerances. Wouldn't that be awful?
BTW, Kend's spelling is atrocious - further proof he's a scoundrel. ;^)
Interestingly, Mark, conservatives want to retain the appearance of democracy, because this gives them a regular opportunity to kick out of office anyone that doesn't do their bidding and install a new meat puppet. It's odd that having a monarchy might protect us from another sort of tyranny. Of course, we the people are supposed to use that replacement opportunity, but we still allow an incumbency rate of 95% or so, and often use it on the wrong office holders.
Any form of amnesty for illegal immigration has to be stopped, therefore the GOP will do whatever they have to.
Thanks for your accurate assessment, The Clinton New Dems (aka, Neo-Liberals) are about as far from the promises of The New Deal as they can get !
rnturn: I agree with you about AP courses in high school. My point is that we should not elect representatives, who have power over our educational systems, who cannot even pass non-AP high school curricula.
Mark J. Saulis: I am not really new here; I am just not a "regular," but I do participate in several on-line forums like Thom's if the topics interest me. My complaint against personal attacks and foul language is the same for all - that resorting to them detracts from any arguement or comment.
DAnneMark: You might want to check your spelling in the first paragraph of your most recent comment.
Personally, I am much more tolerant of typos and spelling errors than personal attacks.