January 07 2008 show notes
Jan. 8, 2008 9:02 am
By Thom Hartmann A...
- Show live from the NH Primary primary radio row, Manchester, NH.
- Guest: Rand Paul, middle son of Ron Paul.
- Guest: Jim Roosevelt, grandson of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
- Guest: Congressman Tom Tancredo, there for Mitt Romney.
- Guest: Congressman John Conyers, endorsing Barack Obama. Investigations.
- Guest: Susie Turnbull, vice chair of the Democratic Party.
- Guests: AARP's Kelly Clark and Lance Kilpatrick. Divided We Fail initiative.
- Guest: New Hampshire State Representative Mark Clark. Republican Libertarian supporting Fred Thompson.
- Guest: Reid Wilson, an associate editor and writer for RealClearPolitics.
- Guest: Ted Olson, former United States Solicitor General, for Rudy Giuliani.
- Guest: Samantha Power, author, A Problem from Hell: America and the Age of Genocide, for Obama.
Topics, guests, upcoming events, quotes, links to articles, audio clips, books & bumper music.
Monday 07 January '08 National show
- Show live from the NH Primary primary radio row, Manchester, NH. New Hampshire is holding the first primary tomorrow - Iowa was a caucus.
- Guest: Rand Paul, middle son of Ron Paul. Fox News would not let Ron Paul on, because he is fiscally conservative and against the war. The constitution says that war should be declared by Congress. Republic Party melt down. About 100,000 Republicans and 250,000 Democrat voted in Iowa. Social security is a bad investment, Ron Paul would let young people opt out. Hi father will cross the picket line tonight to be on Jay Leno's show. He's on Leno to tell Fox he can't be left out.
- Bumper Music: America, Jewel.
- Guest: Jim Roosevelt, grandson of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Democratic activist, CEO of a not-for-profit health insurance company in Massachusetts. FDR's legacy included the New Deal with Social Security and the Wagner Act; the right to enforce the right to unionize. Libertarians want to dismantle the new deal. Former Massachusetts Governor Bill Weld was a Libertarian Republican who gradually discovered that there were things that government really needed to do, for example education. Unions.
- Guest: Congressman Tom Tancredo, who dropped out of the presidential race on his birthday, 20 December. He was there for Mitt Romney. Ron Paul excluded from debate. ABC at least had a threshold for excluding Dennis Kucinich. He is in the Liberty Caucus with Ron Paul but does not agree with him. There was no basis to exclude him. Huckabee may lose votes to Paul. Why Mitt Romney? Romney is more liberal, but immigration is the most important to Tancredo. Romney walked the walk before it was a big issue. Democrats see illegals as voters, and Republicans see them as cheap labor, so it is hard to get anything done. We are importing our own poverty.
- Guest: Congressman John Conyers, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. He said, "Thom Hartmann, the man of the year". He's endorsing Barack Obama, a real agent for change, who is reaching out. We're beyond looking at color of skin. Status of investigations into possible crimes and misdemeanors? They will document as much evidence as possible, so nobody will think we may have rationalized some of them. Does he think we should pursue criminal charges? Yes, if there is evidence. They are studying the imperial presidency. It's more serious and problematic, needs more scrutiny, they are not sweeping anything under the rug. Has he talked to Obama about it? No. Universal health care. Ghettos etc. Housing. Full employment. How to end the notion of permanent war.
- Guest: Susie Turnbull, vice chair of the Democratic Party. A couple of locals in Thom's hotel were saying that the Democrats brainwashed, want socialized medicine. Democrats are riding a wave. Iowa doubled its turnout. It was honor system, but there is little concern about out-of-staters participating. Independents are 40% of the population, and are voting Democratic. Iowa is a swing state. Obama is bringing a lot of young people into the process.
- Bumper Music: Every day is a winding road, Sheryl Crow.
- Guest: Ian Bernard, Free Talk Live. He supports Ron Paul. Libertarian. Free market. Health care. Coercive monopolies. Market monopolies.
- Guest: AARP New Hampshire State Director Kelly Clark and Lance Kilpatrick, AARP New Hampshire Divided We Fail Campaign Manager. Divided We Fail initiative.
" AARP, Business Roundtable, Service Employees Union (SEIU), and National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) are engaging the American people, businesses, non-profit organizations, and elected officials in finding bi-partisan solutions to ensure affordable, quality health care and long-term financial security – for all of us. The need for health and financial security is something we all share, not just for ourselves, but for future generations. It is the promise of America". Coalition. What's wrong with pushing Congress? Health care. Compromise.
- Bumper Music: Ring of Fire, Johnny Cash.
- Guest: New Hampshire State Representative Mark Clark. Republican Libertarian supporting Fred Thompson. States' rights. Dirty tricks. Letting out-of-state students vote steals the election from the Republicans. Fred Thompson pro life but won't criminalize abortion federally - states' rights. Same for gay marriage. Shrink federal government.
- Article: Pentagon says U.S. ships harassed by Iranians.
- Republican debate Saturday night about the occupation of Iraq. The mantra was, "we don't want to announce to the enemy the date that we're leaving". This is out of touch with reality, America, what war means. Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and the government of Iraq are not our enemy.
- Bumper Music: Black Horse & The Cherry Tree, KT Tunstall.
- Guest: Reid Wilson, an associate editor and writer for RealClearPolitics, meeting place for punditocracy, all sides, with polling. In New Hampshire they see a widening gap with an 8 point lead for Obama on Clinton, and McCain leading by 6 or 7. Giuliani is waiting for the big states; it's all about ads, not meeting people. People are not talking much about Edwards, because the story is Obama vs. Clinton. Huckabee and McCain like each other, not Romney. Populist v corporatist, and the media is against populists. These days there are one stop shops on the blogosphere to see what candidates are about. The top 3 are still in the race, it won't end at NH.
- Guest: Ted Olson, former United States Solicitor General. He is now practicing law, replenishing the bank account. He's for Rudy Giuliani, they worked together under Reagan in the Department of Justice. People want an outstanding leader. In New York Giuliani reduced taxes, welfare, crime. Impeachment - he's seen no evidence of crimes. Giuliani was a prosecutor, zero tolerance.
- Guest: Samantha Power, author, 2003 Pulitzer Prize-winning A Problem from Hell: America and the Age of Genocide. She's been Obama's senior advisor for 3 years. Her father is republican. They needed small states to get people to give Obama a look. Thom has been getting email about Obama's Muslim father, his going to a madrassa, his being sworn in on the Koran (that was Keith Ellison), how do you deal with it? Lesson from Kerry - respond immediately, web site. Charisma.