June 04 2008 show notes

Show live from New York City.


Topics, guests, upcoming events, quotes, links to articles, audio clips, books & bumper music.


Wednesday 04 June '08 show




  • Show live from New York City.
  • Article: Rice Calls Dialogue With Iran Pointless.
  • Article: Layoffs rise 15 pct in May vs April: survey.
  • Article: Analysis: May was Afghanistan's most violent month.
  • Thom:
    I know everybody is like, 'hey, you know, didn't you notice last night that Obama got the nomination?' Yeah, and that's why I begin with this. These are the stakes. We're talking about the future of the planet. We're talking about global warming. We're talking about war without end. We're talking about the future of the Supreme Court and whether we have civil liberties in the United States, whether contraception is going to be legal in the United States, whether we're going to have writ of habeas corpus, whether you and I can be captured on the streets of our city and shipped off to some prison ship or some foreign nation that tortures people simply because the president of the United States decided that he or she didn't like us. That's what what we're talking about. This is serious stuff. The stakes are really high. John McCain in 2008, regardless of what he said last night, voted 100% of the time with the Bush administration... and in 2007 John McCain voted 95% of the time with the Bush administration.

  • McCain saying that he's not like Bush.
  • This morning Thom was on Fox News with Michael Reagan. McCain is going to be a formidable candidate but he is doing it by dishonesty. We misunderestimate McCain at our peril.
  • Tomorrow the show is live from Talkers New Media Seminar, New York City.
  • Thom's friend Jerry remarked that both speeches last night were talking about Hillary. This was Hillary's moment to shine, time to be healer. Thom really believed she had it in her, and se was on the top of Thom's list for Vice President.
  • Article: I Am Not a Bargaining Chip, I Am a Democrat, Hilary Rosen, June 4, 2008.
  • Bumper Music: Till we get it right, Richard Aberdeen.
  • John McCain and Barack Obama will each be called the presumptive nominee until they are formally named nominee at their convention.
  • Bumper Music: Amazing, Aerosmith.
  • Listeners could see Thom at the Air America studios by going to airamerica.com/thomvision.
  • Hillary said she had won the majority of the popular vote, she made many of her campaign points, she congratulated Obama on the campaign he had run not the campaign he had won, she talked about 18 million voters must be respected as if they were her personal property, she said every vote has to count which was a clear reference to the fact that she was unhappy about Michigan and Florida, she said, "I'm going to make no decision tonight" when the decision was made for her, and she wrapped it up with "please go to my web site and let me know what you want me to do" - which takes you to the fundraising page. It was tragic. Enough Hillary bashing. It's time to focus on McCain, the future of the country.
  • Article: Obama - Ask Hillary First! Thom Hartmann, May 22 2008.
  • Guest: CNS Editor-in-Chief Terence Jeffrey. He's not a great fan of McCain. We will see who is for pro life in November. McCain has a less than perfect record. Michael Reagan this morning said McCain had thrown them under a bus, but still his guy. Last night's 3 candidate speeches. He only saw Obama's - outstanding. 10 points for style. Enthusiasm. The Democrats ought to win but Obama has weaknesses. Thom says his biggest one is that he is not known. Hillary beat him in states where she is known and he is not, he did not have time to get known. Thom is still getting lots of emails saying nasty things about him. Terry said they do not know who he is. Churchgoers in culturally conservative states went for her, after Wright, they are the swing voters. Obama goes to church, McCain does not? People cannot connect the Obama they see to the Wright clip.
  • Bumper Music: How Far We've Come, Matchbox 20.
  • Bumper Music: My, Oh My, The Wreckers.
  • Bumper Music: Crazy, Gnarls Barkley.
  • Article: Straight Man Accidentally Sees

Trump Goes Full Authoritarian Dictator

Thom plus logo What we saw last night was the dictator's playbook.

Tell violent white supremacist racists to "stand by" and encourage them to show up at polling places to intimidate voters.

Bully, bluster and threaten like Mussolini did, promoting your brand as "tough guy" when in fact you're a lazy coward.
From Cracking the Code:
"Thom Hartmann ought to be bronzed. His new book sets off from the same high plane as the last and offers explicit tools and how-to advice that will allow you to see, hear, and feel propaganda when it's directed at you and use the same techniques to refute it. His book would make a deaf-mute a better communicator. I want him on my reading table every day, and if you try one of his books, so will you."
Peter Coyote, actor and author of Sleeping Where I Fall
From Cracking the Code:
"No one communicates more thoughtfully or effectively on the radio airwaves than Thom Hartmann. He gets inside the arguments and helps people to think them through—to understand how to respond when they’re talking about public issues with coworkers, neighbors, and friends. This book explores some of the key perspectives behind his approach, teaching us not just how to find the facts, but to talk about what they mean in a way that people will hear."
to understand how to respond when they’re talking about public issues with coworkers, neighbors, and friends. This book explores some of the key perspectives behind his approach, teaching us not just how to find the facts, but to talk about what they mean in a way that people will hear."
From Screwed:
"I think many of us recognize that for all but the wealthiest, life in America is getting increasingly hard. Screwed explores why, showing how this is no accidental process, but rather the product of conscious political choices, choices we can change with enough courage and commitment. Like all of Thom’s great work, it helps show us the way forward."
Paul Loeb, author of Soul of a Citizen and The Impossible Will Take a Little While