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Hour 1: The Best of the rest of the News
Hour 2: Monsanto and the battle for a safe food supply - Thom speaks with Dr. Andrew Bosworth, author of "biotech-images The Future of Food, Pills and Sex" www.biotechempire.com
Hour 3: "Underground: My Life with SDS and The Weathermen" activist/author/teacher Mark Rudd joins Thom www.markrudd.com
Topic: News under the Radar with Christy Harvey www.americanprogress.org

Comments

Mr_Grant (not verified) 13 years 13 weeks ago
#1

Check out this post at Talking Points Memo and be somewaht reassured.

http://tinyurl.com/c4mjhc

ken willis (not verified) 13 years 13 weeks ago
#2

The day the feds come to my small backyrd farm and try to outlaw my activivties is the day I start the new American Revolution. To control our food network is a tatic to control us even further. If we rebel "they" turn the food distribution networks off. WE ARE BEING ENSLAVED in chunks. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.
Nepharous

Adele Richert (not verified) 13 years 13 weeks ago
#3

The Bill in the House is H.R. 875 and in the Senate S 425 - you can read more about it at http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=12671 or go to the House and Senate sites and read the actual Bills.

B Roll (not verified) 13 years 13 weeks ago
#4

Thom,

You like the story that the USA is this a unique country that was established on an ideal not genetics. I disagree.

I'd say that the United States was built by almost wiping out the genetics of the indigenous inhabitants and stealing their land, and by enslaving the genetics of millions of Africans and making them work that land. The borders of the U.S. were set through military conquest.

As far as your belief that all other countries are based on genetics, I'd like to point out that many, maybe the great majority of other countries have had their borders defined by the strength of their military during certain times in their histories. Who ever lived within the borders that the military could defend became part of that country, no matter what their genetics was, unless they were expelled or killed off.

China has many different ethnicities within it's borders as does Russia. The majority of the population of Argentina is European while the indigenous people make up less than 10%. There are blond haired blue eyed people in northern Italy with Germanic names like Hans Auschenbach, while you're more likely to find darker skinned darker haired guys with names like Giovanni Calabrese further south.

The nations of the Middle East and Africa were formed by the European colonialists, not by the indigenous people.

I'd also question your claim that the people who immigrate to this country from Mexico are necessarily the most industrious. A lot of the immigrants are the people who weren't able to make it in their country under the conditions of the time. Many are simple peasants who've been driven off the land their families have lived on for generations, either because they can't afford to sell their crops for the same price that subsidized produce from the U.S. can be sold or because the land has been taken away to grow crops for exports.

There's a difference between people get on a boat or airplane and move to another place to improve their lives and people who merely cross a border to try to survive. And don't interpret this as a put down of Mexican immigrants. I'm far more accepting of them than you are. I'm just describing the reality of their lives.

It also seems to me that there's an inconsistency between your prescriptions for the U.S. and Mexico. You say that social change in the U.S. must come from the middle class.

But you think that social change in Mexico should come from “poor” people who have come to the U.S. illegally because they couldn’t make a decent living in their country. If they won’t go back voluntarily, you want to starve them out. You call it “illegal employer problem”.

Sorry to have to use the "poor" on your website. I know the world isn't indigenous to your show. I hope it isn't illegal here.

mundy (not verified) 13 years 13 weeks ago
#5

I tried to look it up in the house by searching "875" and all that I can see on this subject is this page: http://delauro.house.gov/files/HR875_Myths_Facts1.pdf
(It basically debunks everything said, like:
"There is no language in the bill that would...
regulate, penalize, or shut down backyard gardens,
result in farmers' markets being regulated, penalized with fines, or shut down,
result in the 'death of organic farming', or mandate the use of chemicals or certain types of seeds, etc.
Is there a link that will take me straight to the bill itself?

Joe (not verified) 13 years 13 weeks ago
#6

Thom:
What happened to Mark Rudd? He was on the air to you talking about the strategy they used in the 60s, etc....can you get him back????

Joe

mundy (not verified) 13 years 13 weeks ago
#7

Same thing on senate website, searched "425", "S 425", "S 425 organic", nothing that is obviously the same bill we're talking about here... Something Sherrod Brown is working on for biogas...? Is it me, or is it hard to find the actual bills on the government sites? Seems like this has happened before to me - I would like to put something on my fb site, with a link to the actual bills, because for people who aren't already in the same mindset as I am, maybe they would think that is more 'reliable' information than links to blog sites that are railing against something...

B Roll (not verified) 13 years 13 weeks ago
#8

Thom,

You said that we learned the lessons of non-violent resistance from Gandhi and Nelson Mandela.

Have you forgotten that Mandela was one of the co-founders and leader of Umkhonto we Sizwe (translated Spear of the Nation) the armed wing of the African National Congress in 1961 when he was 43 years old.

You can say that Umkhonto we Sizwe (aka the MK) participated in demonstration violence for the purpose of encouraging and arousing the black population of South Africa, and took care not to hurt civilians in the early days, but I don’t think it was non-violent. These actions were very similar to what was done by the Weathermen in this country.

However, Umkhonto we Sizwe escalated the violence some years later and there were civilian casualties. Mandela was still in prison at that time, but probably was in contact. And don’t forget that during the waning days of the apartheid regime, there were violent conflicts between the ANC and the Inkatha led by Mangosuthu Buthelezi.

By the time that Mandela was released from prison, the situation had changed dramatically.

I'm not saying I'm in favor of political violence. I'm just trying to set the historical record straight.

Adele Richert (not verified) 13 years 13 weeks ago
#9

To find the Bill in the House of Representatives - go to http://www.house.gov/ then scroll down to FIND A BILL, AMENDMENT OR DEBATE and click on Search Thomas by Bill Text or Number. Then in the drop down, select Bill Number and enter H.R. 875 (make sure you put in the periods)

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