Wednesday September 2 2009

pidgeons-waterHour One: When are we going to figure out how to win friends and influence people?

Hour Two: "Deja Vu - the banks are loading up on toxic assets again...time for more regulation?" Thom mixes it up with Dan Gainor of the Business and Media Institute www.businessandmedia.org

Hour Three: "Everything You Know is Wrong...about Mayan prophecy?" Thom interviews author William Gladstone about his new book "The Twelve: A Novel of Ancient Wisdom" www.12thebook.com

Comments

Mark (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#1

At the tail-end of John Lott’s comments yesterday, he was of the opinion that employers should be allowed to hire anyone they want, and Thom acknowledged his “point.” While large companies are more apt to have diverse workforces out of practical necessity, small business owners dislike pressure to conform to equal opportunity employment mandates. Why? Not because they want the “best” people, but because since they work in a close environment, they want people they feel comfortable with on a social level, and that usually means people who look like themselves. Because of the difficulty in enforcing anti-discrimination laws against small businesses, this is the principle cause of the much higher unemployment rates among minorities.

This gives me the opportunity to relate an experience I had many years when I lived in Sacramento. I was working through a temp agency, and one day I was sent to a small business that engaged in advertisement piece work, simple stuff. At the end of the day, the supervisor called us all together, and started counting heads, beginning with the white women; when he finished counting all of them, he informed the rest of us that he didn’t require our services. I mused to myself that he had just picked-out his “harem.” While the rest of us--a dozen minorities and two older white men--were waiting for the supervisor to sign our time cards, I mulled over what had just transpired, and after I was done mulling I blurted out “You know, we need the work, too.”

The reaction to this was a mix of fear, horror and amusement--the latter mostly on my part. The supervisor’s expression suggested that he had just witnessed an ape talk, while the other temps, mouths agape, seemed bizarrely perturbed that anyone should be permitted the temerity to have an opinion about an ethically-challenged employer whose discriminatory actions effected them materially.

Mark (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#2

According to a few commentators, the real estate market is the next “big thing” that will require a government bailout. How can this be? Wasn’t tax payer money given to financial institutions supposed to be used to renegotiate mortgages and debt? No--it was used to pad the books to make the profits that certain large banking institutions seem to have acquired only a year after they were allegedly on the brink of collapse.

B Roll (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#3

Interesting Democracy Now segment today on

“American Casino”–Doc Investigates Roots of the Subprime Mortgage Meltdown and Tells the Stories of Its Victims

It can be watched or listened to at and a will be up in an hour or two.

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/2/american_casino_doc_investigates_ro...

DRichards (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#4

Is it anti-semitic to defend Palestinian human rights?
Edward C. Corrigan, BA, MA, LL.B.
(This article was submitted to The Canadian Parliamentary Coalition to Combat Antisemitism http://www.cpcca.ca/home.htm )

http://www.thecanadiancharger.com/page.php?id=5&a=111

DRichards (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#5

New bull, new bubble, new meltdown?
You can feel it in the air; Americans want a new bull and a new bubble to spice up the economy, and the government is cooperating. As usual, we'll pay for it later

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/New-bull-new-bubble...

Rasta (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#6

Naomi Klein Shows You Can Boycott Israel Without Cutting Off Dialogue Over Palestine

Cecilie Surasky, AlterNet

World: An interview with Klein and Israeli publisher Yael Lerer on why boycotting Israel will pressure the country to live up to international law.

http://www.alternet.org/world/142341/naomi_klein_shows_you_can_boycott_i...

DRichards (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#7

A new front opens in the GOP's war on sanity!

I seem to recall that for many years it was American conservatives out there yearning for a message of personal responsibility to the nation's school children. Next Tuesday, President Obama says he wants to deliver exactly that, a televised address in classrooms that will "challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning." But now that the president is Obama, apparently conservatives don't want that message anymore. In fact, the chairman of the GOP in the 4th most populous state in America is calling Obama's address to the kids "socialist indoctrination."

I kid you not. In the interest of fairness and balance, I now bring you the entire unedited statement of Jim Greer, chairman of the Republican Party of Florida:

For Immediate Release Contact: Katie Gordon
September 1, 2009 (850) 339-7087

Greer Condemns Obama’s Attempt to Indoctrinate Students
Tallahassee – Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer today released the following statement condemning President Obama’s use of taxpayer dollars to indoctrinate America’s children to his socialist agenda.
“As the father of four children, I am absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama’s socialist ideology. The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the President justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President, is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power.
“While I support educating our children to respect both the office of the American President and the value of community service, I do not support using our children as tools to spread liberal propaganda. The address scheduled for September 8, 2009, does not allow for healthy debate on the President’s agenda, but rather obligates the youngest children in our public school system to agree with our President’s initiatives or be ostracized by their teachers and classmates.
“Public schools can’t teach children to speak out in support of the sanctity of human life or traditional marriage. President Obama and the Democrats wouldn’t dream of allowing prayer in school. Christmas Parties are now Holiday Parties. But, the Democrats have no problem going against the majority of American people and usurping the rights of parents by sending Pied Piper Obama into the American classroom.
The Democrats have clearly lost the battle to maintain control of the message this summer, so now that school is back in session, President Obama has turned to American’s children to spread his liberal lies, indoctrinating American’s youngest children before they have a chance to decide for themselves.”

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/

DRichards (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#8

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/

A new front opens in the GOP's war on sanity!

I seem to recall that for many years it was American conservatives out there yearning for a message of personal responsibility to the nation's school children. Next Tuesday, President Obama says he wants to deliver exactly that, a televised address in classrooms that will "challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning." But now that the president is Obama, apparently conservatives don't want that message anymore. In fact, the chairman of the GOP in the 4th most populous state in America is calling Obama's address to the kids "socialist indoctrination."

I kid you not. In the interest of fairness and balance, I now bring you the entire unedited statement of Jim Greer, chairman of the Republican Party of Florida:

For Immediate Release Contact: Katie Gordon
September 1, 2009 (850) 339-7087

Greer Condemns Obama’s Attempt to Indoctrinate Students
Tallahassee – Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer today released the following statement condemning President Obama’s use of taxpayer dollars to indoctrinate America’s children to his socialist agenda.
“As the father of four children, I am absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama’s socialist ideology. The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the President justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President, is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power.
“While I support educating our children to respect both the office of the American President and the value of community service, I do not support using our children as tools to spread liberal propaganda. The address scheduled for September 8, 2009, does not allow for healthy debate on the President’s agenda, but rather obligates the youngest children in our public school system to agree with our President’s initiatives or be ostracized by their teachers and classmates.
“Public schools can’t teach children to speak out in support of the sanctity of human life or traditional marriage. President Obama and the Democrats wouldn’t dream of allowing prayer in school. Christmas Parties are now Holiday Parties. But, the Democrats have no problem going against the majority of American people and usurping the rights of parents by sending Pied Piper Obama into the American classroom.
The Democrats have clearly lost the battle to maintain control of the message this summer, so now that school is back in session, President Obama has turned to American’s children to spread his liberal lies, indoctrinating American’s youngest children before they have a chance to decide for themselves.”

mathboy (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#9

Last year had a lot of months with record numbers of American casualties in Iraq. I presume that since our soldiers have moved out of the cities, there will be no more broken records. But the figures I'd like to see are the numbers of casualties per thousand soldiers deployed there. That would be a better measure of whether conditions are improving. And of course, I would like to see the same for Afghanistan.

loretta (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#10

Meeting of The Freedom Socialist Party at the Bread and Roses Center,

Defend Tax Increases on big business and the rich!

(This is the coolest meeting center on Killingsworth Street in Portland, OR right near the PCC Cascade Campus And the meals are always awesome!)

Did you know that two-thirds of corporations doing business in Oregon paid just $10 in taxes to the state? Personal income taxes are 88.7% of the state's budget compared with corporate excise and income taxes making up 4.5%!

A long-overdue increase of taxes on corporations and the rich was passed by the legislature this year to balance Oregon’s budget shortfall. While this is a paltry raise, conservative union-busters are organizing to overturn this mandate. Those most vulnerable, the elderly, children and the poor, will see further cuts in state services and education if the tax increases are repealed.

Participate in a Round-table Discussion:

Defend tax increases on

big business and the rich!

Jessica Kendall, from the Defend Oregon Coalition, will report on the campaign to stop the drive to overturn this essential tax legislation. Share your thoughts on how we can strengthen the grassroots battle to halt bleeding workers’ dry for social services and programs we all need.

Sunday, Sept. 13 at 3pm

Bread & Roses Center

819 N. Killingsworth St. Portland

(1/2 block west of N. Albina; TriMet bus lines #4 & #72)

There is a $2.00 door donation. A hearty Harvest meal will be available for a $8-$10 donation. For more information, call 503-240-4462 or email us at fsp@igc.org.

In Struggle,

Eduardo Martínez Zapata
Freedom Socialist Party - Portland Branch

Quark (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#11

GREAT interview of Tom Ridge by Rachel Maddow last night. Rachel asked questions I have been wanting to hear answered for 8 years! 'Interview in 3 parts (and in 3 posts):

Part 1

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show#3265...

RandyWinn (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#14

We fight FOR the teabaggers, too.

That may be better than merely fighting against them. We want THEM to have health care, jobs, security and love as well.

It doesn't really work to shout at them; I've tried and they are simply not interested in reason. Fear ... and perhaps the solidarity they feel with other Teabaggers ... overrides any mere factual content we can share.

So love them. Tell them we are fighting FOR them too.

After all, this is the truth.

More fully developed: http://rewinn.blogspot.com/2009/08/we-fight-for-teabaggers-too.html

Rasta (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#15

too bad Thom Hartmann's empathy doesn't stretch to the Palestinian Genocide as well as the "GYPSIES"......but then, bloodthirsty KKKristian cult zionists believe in their own supremacy and there's no amount of blood and death that can satiate it's cult driven indoctrination.

nothing short of the NAZIs.....when Thom writes and talks about that disgusting regime he isn't railing against all FASCISM....he's advocating FOR the neo-fascist ISRAELI zionism.

Fascism doesn't care what ethnic group is demonizes just as long as it demonizes .....and Hitler would be proud that his minions like Thom are still carrying out the Fuhrer's wishes.

Quark (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#16

DDay and Thom,

Have you heard the latest crazy talk by Michele Bachmann? Writer Dan Savage has no-holds-barred response on "Countdown" last night:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olb...

RandyWinn (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#17

Mark - your impressions were, without a doubt, absolutely correct.

I worked for a recruiting firm ages ago. On paper, we were not allowed to keep track of applicant race or gender. However, employers would sometimes express preferences, e.g. "This is a tough shop and a woman just won't fit it." So our boss directed us to put a stray mark in each applicant's "COMMENTS" section, e.g. multiple periods for a woman (?get the oh-so-subtley?), so that we could select on that basis but a casual investigation would reveal nothing.

P.S. they're out of business now. Karma!

DRichards (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#18

So much for 'the good war'?

White House stalls as US public opinion swings against Pentagon's plans to escalate war in Afghanistan

http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&It...

Food Fascist (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#19

Okay- let's break this whole overwhelming health care/ insurance reform down:

ISSUES with Health Care Insurance alone:

BANKRUPTCIES

Every year one million Americans
claim bankruptcy due to a major medical issue
Senator Bernie Sanders,
Thom Hartmann Show 8. 2009

INSURANCE CAPS
Once your cap is used say in a major medical
you are virtually uninsurable afterwards.
Representative Slaughter, Ron Reagan
Show 9/1. 2009

POST CLAIM UNDERWRITING

You pay your premiums faithfully but
when you have a major medical matter,
the company drops you from your policy.
Ex insuance broker, Stephanie Miller Show
8/17. 2009

CLAIM DENIAL
You pay your premiums faithfully, something major happens. Your claim was denied.
A bonus was paid to the employee for denying
your claim. Caller to Stephanie Miller Show8/17. 2009

LOSE YOUR JOB LOSE YOUR
COVERAGE / PORTABILITY

Then, if ill, this becomes a lapse in coverage
and a possible pre existing condition.

PRE EXISTING CONDITION
There are disabled persons and others
for whom will never be insurable.
How could this happen in America?

WORKMANS COMP/ MALPRACTICE CASES could be virtually be eliminated.

COST INCREASES TIES UP COMMERCE

The average business can spend as much
as 20% of their costs on health insurance making
them unable to compete with companies from
other countries that do have nationalized coverage.
USA 18-22% GDP is health care while other

THE COST OF NON INSURED

The average insured can pay as much as 1000. Per year more to compensate for those who are uninsured and relegated to using the emergency room as a source of primary care for which a tooth abscess can become a 250,000 surgery.

http://foodfascist.blogspot.com/2009/09/issues-with-health-care-insuranc...

DRichards (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#20

Thom,

What's the difference between a "contractor" and a mercenary?

Quark (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#21

Rep. Anthony Weiner has been my new hero for some time now.

Maria Bartiromo - CNBC, however, always sounds irrelevant when discussing political/economic issues on MSNBC programs. Her comments have no dimension or perspective because she is ignorant and unaware of any background info. She has no empathy for the average worker or human being in this country because she's so one-sided in her protection of big business. Business doesn't need defending if one isn't blinded by ideology.

Besides, her appearance and behavior (on Morning Joe, etc.) often shocklingly seems as though there's something wrong --- she's strung out on drugs (?) or maybe she didn't make it home the night before. Anyway, she's a mess, inside and out.

mathboy (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#22

Quark,

What does all that stuff about Maria Bartiromo have to do with Anthony Weiner?

loretta (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#23

DRichards, I'm waiting for the punch line:-) A mercenary ...

loretta (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#24

Food Fascist,

That's a terrific list of arguments we need to make to the already-insured. I posted this link yesterday, but I think you might like to read the article by Michael Lind on salon.com. The second page of the link lists ways we can name our enemy and frame the debate to help the skeptical, already-insured middle class support reform.

The statistics you've lined up for us are exactly the sorts of arguments Lind is suggesting we use, instead of trying to draw out compassion from self-absorbed people for the poor and uninsured . Appealing to compassion doesn't work apparently, even though it did in Taiwan. We have to show people how THEY will benefit, not people who have less then they do who many in the already-insured bracket feel should simply work harder to earn their insurance.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/09/01/demagogy/?source=newsletter

I'm going to post your post on my wall. Thanks!

mathboy (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#25

Contrary to what William Gladstone thinks, scarcity is normal, because of the Malthusian principle that a species reproduces to fill its ecological niche. It stops growing either when it's so populous that a predator eats it too easily or when it's using all available resources (and a larger population would be reduced through starvation). And currently there are no predators keeping humans from using all available resources.

Quark (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#26

mathboy,

An audio clip has been played throughout Thom's show today featuring a healthcare reform discussion with Rep. Anthony Weiner responding to a typical idiotic comment by Bartiromo.

Quark (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#27

mathboy,

Maria Bartiromo Presses 44-Year-Old Congressman: If Medicare Is So Good, Why Aren't You On It? (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/01/maria-bartiromo-presses-4_n_274...

Quark (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#28

BP Says It's Made 'Giant' Oil Find in Gulf of Mexico

http://www.cnbc.com/id/32653850

Food Fascist (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#29

THX Loretta-

I really appreciate your information. The Thom Hartmann Show is the incubator of Cracking the Code Truly. In fact, I am preparing for our Move On .org Vigil this evening and wanted to at least have some sort of quick white paper for those who are just begin introduced to the issue, or wish to learn from the stories of others rather than experience it ourselves! Though Lord knows, I have been in some real CAT FIGHTS with health insurers and so no longer have as it seems such a waste of hard earned money MEOW!!

DDay (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#30

I took off posting here yesterday and decided to just listen to Thom's show on the radio where it is delayed broadcast here in Mpls. The reason I am posting now, (Thurs. morn) is to answer a inquiry directed at me from my friend Quark. Yes I did hear about Michele Bachmann's latest verbal IED. I am on a listserve that notifies me of everything she does or spews. I don't want to monopolize the conversations by bringing her up too much in this forum. I do think it would be a good thing if progressives from around the country took up the cause to oust her however. She is truly the "tip of the spear" of the Barbarian Faction of the Right. (My apologies to all regular Barbarians.) Lets make an example of her. It would be the patriotic thing to do. It would also be the compassionate thing to do. People here is the Minnesota Sixth Congressional District are suffering for their ignorance under her representation. She feeds that ignorance. They need your intervention America! This would make a perfect pilot project for progressives on the web who want to flex muscle.

Quark (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#31

DDay,

Yes, getting Michele Bachmann out of public office would be a kindness --- it would put us all out of her misery! LOL

She's such a cartoon character. It's scary that she's for real. Have you ever called her local office? I have (to complain about some stupidity or other with which she so frequently regails us.) Of course, her staff enablers and loyalists are just as "amazing.")

BTW, I find that I sometimes miss consciously hearing part of Thom's show if I only listen to it while I'm on the blog. (Yes, multitaskers, your brain really can do only one thing at a time!) So, I blog and listen to the live stream, then sometimes listen to the delayed broadcast in Mpls. to get the details on whatever I may have missed.)

DDay (not verified) 13 years 23 weeks ago
#32

Quark,

I don't call Michele's office out of caution. I have worked on all the previous campaigns to defeat her. A friend of mine was caught making an inquiry of her campaign,(by email.) with a hidden identity while he worked on the Wetterling effort. he was fired on the spot and dragged over the coals by the local media. He was at my home the night he was discovered. I decided that discretion is the better part of valor. As to your method, I have tried that too. I'm still learning.

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