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Nels (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Kudos to Britian, even if nothing happens to Blair, at least their addressing his actions appropriately.

Take notice congress, doing similar commissions here regarding are chicken hawks will do a lot more for your next campaign then the tactic of cowering in the corner as so many of you are doing now.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Zero G. perhaps its because its really hard to do something worthy of headlines of being foolish, if you're just a sorta' trying to become part of the pattern of your couch all day long.

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago
rewinn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

"Let's not go on and on about who killed who ..." is Tony Blair's best line.

Or was it Monty Python?

Either way, it's a line O.J. Simpson should have tried. If we can just keep looking forward, not backward, criminal trials would be a lot shorter!

jeanne(like out of the lamp) (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Now that the Supreme Court has legalized money as a talking person what does that do to the adage "Money talks and Shit walks?  If the Supreme Court is held to the same standards that granted personhood to money can Shit be far behind?

DDay (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@ Nels, My couch is solid blue. There is no pattern.

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago


Fine, I can understand that, but there are plenty of songs about alcohol, and the segment is: "because I got high."

How about: "I wrote your favorite song, when I got high?" Or, "I developed your favorite software, when I got high"?

jeanne(like out of the lamp) (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

The Supreme Court ruling that grants money legal personage has me wondering. If money is a person what gender is it? Male or Female?  What is it's nationality?  White, Black, Rainbow?  It might qualify as a minority and entitled to federal programs and grants.  Can money marry? This is a little different than marrying for money. If money can marry can it marry the same denomination? Or does it have to be opposite? And what is opposite of say $5?  

DDay (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

"Scotch an soda, Mud in your eye, Baby do I feel high oh me oh my... do I feel high".

Nels (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

"Those who forget the past will, ah... mmmm... hummm will never do that stuff again." (That's how Bush would deliver the line.)

"We must not worry about the past, but look forward." (That's how Obama delivers the line.)

Sure the second phrase sounds smarter, but really its the same lie... however, I might give Bush the benefit of the doubt that he doesn't really know better (he should, but I wonder at times if the guy could tie his shoe laces, or even fasten his Velcro straps for that matter).

Plain and simple, I can't give Obama a pass on it though.

Zero G. (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

DDay, ah well, I can't define every instance of poetic license. When someone asks me "If I want to get 'high,' I don't expect a beer.

DRichards (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Re: Osama Bin Laden's enviromentalism

It must be noted that these recordings are "Alleged".

Nels (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

The Republicans claim that it was World War II is what got us out of the Great Depression, not FDR's programs. So if that's the case (if you want to make that argument), the must mean that they believe it was the massive amount of manufacturing done during the war that brought about prosperity. Therefore, they must acknowledge that they ultimately believe that American manufacturing jobs will end economic downturns.

But they don't make that link, they rather keep sailing down the river of denial.

DDay (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@ Zero G. Pffffffssst. Ahhhh.... No problem dude...I'm just commenting on the age gap and how the more things change....the more they seem the same. different strokes and all that. Terms change but people's behaviors are fairly static. It all works.

harry ashburn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@The Church Lady January 29th, 2010, 7:21 am

"The Church Lady has her eye on Harry Ashburn. She senses a spiritual connection."

I knew you were going to say that.

"Remember, time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana." - townes van zandt

Nels (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

RE: Obama's "alleged" audio tapes.

Look we don't have time for you to question authority OK, the "Morning Hate" needs to be attended right now. ;-)

DDay (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

FYI. I have been watching President Obama answer questions from the Republican House caucus live in Baltimore on MSNBC. It was fascinating. You will be seeing excerpts all over soon. He mixed it up and called out some of these creeps for reciting false talking points masquerading as honest questions. pretty cool.

rewinn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@DDay - Obama taking questions from the opposition?

Risky but smart. We really need to make that a regular practice. "Question Period" in Canada makes their government much much better.

Imagine either Bush, McCain even Romney trying that LOL (...I'll grant you Reagan could've done it...)

Anyway, it's GOOD for our government to face tough questions, and I have every confidence good government-types can handle it better than the whores

The Church Lady (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@ harry ashburn

So, Mr. Ashburn claims to have the gift of fore-sight? a seer? He knows what the Church Lady is going to say before it leaves her full firm lips, does he? Isn't that speeeshal. The Church Lady does not believe bananas fly either Mr. Smarty Pants!

rewinn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Hey Thom --- for a change of pace,check out Diego Rivera's work in Detroit sometime. Very interesting stuff:

Nels (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Whoa, whoa Thom, if the Republicans haven't held a super majority since 1911, then that paints a whole other picture, because, Theodore Roosevelt, peeled off most of the Progressives in the 1912 campaign into the Bull Moose Party. Thus forever reshaping the Republican Party as the Conservative Party since they were in essence left with our equivalent of Blue Dog Democrats as their party.

Says a lot about the American people, because, arguably we may never have allowed the conservatives (no matter what party they controlled) a super majority.

DDay (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@ rewinn, Agreed. Obama was impressive. The cons were predictable. With any luck Quark will have a link up soon. No one does MSNBC like our dear Quark.

Pathos (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

I was impressed with his on stage performance, and I believe that he has done a lot of good for this country, but when staing this I was assailed by all of the hard core teabaggers and Republicrat wannabes...the resounding response from all of them is, "Name One Thing Good That He Has Done For This Country!"
Now, I can think of a few things that he has done...and I mentioned them. As response to their challenge fell on deaf ears, I ask myself...why don't the State of the Union do what it is supposed to do?
The President should give a complete list of everything that he and his administration have done to benefit this country. I need to get this list so I can stick it down the throats of the people who imply that Obama has done NOTHING for this country.

rewinn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Thom: see the difference?


* Immoral
* Amoral
* Feed off the life-energy of living human beings.
* Fictional

Health Insurers
* Immoral
* Amoral
* Feed off the life-energy of living human beings.
* Not Fictional

rewinn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Ooops --- that should've been "ImmorTal"

Nels (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

rewinn, a justified Freudian slip if I've ever seen one.

DDay (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

FYI "The Cage Match" in Baltimore: It is reported that the White house called the GOP leadership to request cameras during the hour and a half of question and answer session. Repubs are now lamenting that decision because the President ate their lunch and left them the tab.

harry ashburn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@Church Lady: "The Church Lady does not believe bananas fly either Mr. Smarty Pants!"

Please re-read the quote for other possible meanings.

rewinn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

OMG Obama in Baltimore taking GOP questions:

AFTER Thom's show --- you'll love this.

Personally, I think there should be MORE of this. "Question Period" in Canada makes everybody better informed.

harry ashburn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@John January 28th, 2010, 5:04 pm

"Has anyone noticed the similar facial features between Timothy Mcveigh and Okeffe?"

Even weirder, has anyone noticed the similar facial features between you, me, Gerald and most of the other people in this chat-room?

The Church Lady (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Listen here Mr. Tricky, Harry BurningAssh, you can't lure me into any of your evil mind games! The Church Lady wasn't born yesterday. She knows a shady prevert when she sees one. Send me a picture?

harry ashburn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@Church Lady: "Send me a picture?"

My current photo says it all...I'm really Frosty the Snowman.

"The future ain't what it used to be." - Yogi Berra

The Church Lady (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

I prefer, " We are lost but at least were making good time"

rewinn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Let's use a new framing: "Decriminalize the import of legal drugs."

If it is unconstitutional to discriminate between corporate and natural persons for purposes of speech, it should likewise be unconstitutional to permit drug manufacturers to make their drugs abroad and bring them here, but to prevent individuals from importing the very same thing.

Besides, prosecuting individual Americans who wish only to stay alive is insane.

As head of the Executive Branch, the President has discretion to decide where to put our limited law-enforcement resources and should order every agency of the Federal Government not to investigate nor to prosecute any individual American citizen who brings legal, life-saving medicines into our country.

Meanwhile, Congress should DECRIMINALIZE granny importing her legal drugs.

Nels (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

BTW Church Lady, I'm curious how you developed your mechanical abilities and special talent at starting Harely's.... I hope you haven't been taking long draws on those vile mari-ja-wana Water Pipes... don't want you to end up on Thom's "Because I got high segments". ;-)

harry ashburn (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@Nels: " I hope you haven’t been taking long draws on those vile mari-ja-wana Water Pipes..."

Drawing? you mean sucking?... No wonder it don't work for me...I've been blowing!

Quark (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago


'Just stopped by to say "hi" and "bye." I've been away. 'Have a great weekend!

The Church Lady (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@ Nels

I knew you would be curious you big Scandihoovian/Irish?Whats the difference hunk of masculine curiosity!

Well it all began when my uncle taught me to suck bb's through his swizzle stick. I soon graduated to sucking golf balls through our garden hose, and well you know the story, it was the usual thing. Pretty soon it was a minibike, then a vespa, and so on. I always say, it's amazing the things you can accomplish when you are on your knees! In one way or another, I have been praying all my life for true fulfillment. I think I may have found it here, amongst my Norse Gods. Time for my prozac. Ta Ta

DDay (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@ Quark

Back at ya.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Where do I start? I have so much to say but I will try to limit my comments from being a thesis.

I have said to you that I enjoy pissing off people but those words limit a person’s class. Even though I have no class, I should try to develop some class. For example, I need to not say, “piss off people” and replace the words with “to shake people from their comfort zone.” Saying comfort zone will add some class to my comments.

My comments need to be a balancing act. Are my comments meeting these conditions for a mortal sin? Here are the three conditions necessary for a mortal sin. The first condition is “a grave matter;” the second condition is that I have full knowledge of “a grave matter;” and the third condition is “a complete consent” toward the grave matter. Even though I want to shake people from their comfort zone, are my comments “a grave matter?” Mass murders, torture, and war crimes are grave matters!!!

I aim to educate and share information. I do not wish to display a hardness of the heart in educating people. Yet, every person is different. Some people become discombobulated with words like puke and breaking wind. Personally, the use of these words is not a grave matter. These words are aimed to graphically highlight a certain comment or comments.

Thom does a good job of educating his listeners. In fact his ideas and thoughts can resolve many of our problems and send us toward a great society. We do have people who can put our country in the right direction. But, we remain a divided nation with hatred, corruption, and lies running rampart among our people.

I have previously used the term a balancing act because I must live in the natural world while I am preparing for the supernatural world. My cardio-electro-physiologist and my cardiologist in consultation with my family doctor have said that I am taking the necessary medication to ease many of my health issues. However, the increase of fluid around the heart and into the lungs is a serious concern. I have been given another medication to slow the fluid build up. This new prescription is a powerful medication. I will need to reduce the stressors in my life, such as commenting and posting on blogs. This medication is my last chance at preventing congestive heart failure.

The monitoring of medication and the dosage is a finite balancing act in an effort to help me stay alive.

I am sharing this information with you because my preparation for the supernatural world must exclude mortal sins in the natural world that would damn the soul for eternity. Hopefully, my comments are not shaking you from your comfort zone to a large degree or inflicting too much discombobulation in your life.

Loretta (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Church lady you are hilarious. I hope you don't mind me saying this, but I am getting the feeling that you are a guy satirizing a church lady in funny, loving way? Am I right about this>? Dday is this your alternate persona? Or is anyone going to fess up?I hope not, because it's fun the way it is, but I am getting very very curious about this....

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Here is a recent homily from Bishop Gumbleton, a peace activist.


Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@ The Church Lady, at what comedy club are scheduled next? Please share this information with us! Thank you!

Nels (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@ Gerald, sorry to hear that you're going through such personal trials. I hope that any trip you might take to the supernatural side of life, is later rather than sooner. Since I know nothing more of you than what I have read from your blog statements, I think it would be arrogant and foolish for me to hazard a comment as to the worthiness of your soul. However, I can say that I have found your writing to be thoughtful, and I have appreciated that you (along with everyone else who blogs here) has taken the time to share personal opinions.

John (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Bonhoeffer in my opinion was a real christian who was murdered for being involved in a failed assasination attempt of Adolp Hitler. One should order or ILL the video http://www.bonhoeffer.com/news.htm

As a matter of fact there is a direct correlation between Bonhoeffer's resistance to Adolph Hitler and true christians who resist the false christian neocon agenda of Bush Cheney. People do not realize Germany was an extremly christian nation. It was German Nazi pastors who were responsible for indoctrinating the german masses for extermination of thw Jews.

As a matter of fact actual NAZI theology has entered into American christian theology unwittingly. Gerhard kittle was one of "Hitler's Theologians" and yes you can order that documentary as well. Kittle was arrested and imprisoned by the Allies after WWII. The cult leader I am speaking of uses Kittle's greek interpretations as support for his neocon cult in America since the 1960s.

My dear friends you are so far behind the neocons on theology. Neocon ideology revolves around "once saved always saved" PLUS the cult ideology of "right pastor". The "once saved always saved" concept was actually conceived by a populist Dr. Lewis Sperry Chafer. His neocon student who I will not mention here today was the cult leader who took Dr. Chafer's teachings and twisted them and ADDED the cult as essentially defined by Dr. Lifton.

Ok? Once saved always saved is used by neocons to justify every murder theft robbery every evil sin because only Jesus is perfect and you cannot "earn" salvation by your works only by faith in the perfect works of Christ can salvation be gained.

Now "once saved always saved" is not such a bad theory drawn from the bible, but? Jesus came to fufill the law not end it. Which means? There is MORALITY within the Law.( Neocons skip the morailty aprt). So? Still if someone is not "moral" that is not "christian" not "spiritual maturity or growth" and neocons should be called out on immorality. Also Paul said his "conscience" bears witness. So human conscience is a necessity for Christian spiritual growth. But basically instead of being perfect for salvation by our own works we are saved through faith in Jesus by Jesus' perfect works. Still not so bad but? When the cult neocon doctrine of "right pastor" is added? Wow what a mess. A "sodini" mess. Once the false neocon cult of only 1 "right" pastor per 1 "right" congregation with all unquestionable authority of God is attributed to and through the false paster? Whoa. The neocon reich pastor is the only one who can teach you so you can spiritually grow is added? Wow major evil. Once this 1 congregation is convinced they can't read the bible for themself? And their critical faculties are shutdown? The neocon cult leader runs every lie in the world past these (actually good intentioned Chriditian s who unwittingly ended up in a cult) christians and get them to submit to neocon lies as only one "right" neocon pastor indoctrinates.Essentially "Bush good" "Obama evil" "liberals evil" socialism evil" ok you listened and submitted to my authority you move step closer to maturity AND? Go vote neocon.
And? There is no biblical evidence for that wahtsoever. It is neocon imperial corporate fiction christianity.

What does this do? It justifies everything evil. You can murder and still go to heaven in neocon ideology you can be inhumane and still go to heaven in neocon ideology. You don't need a conscience according to neocon ideology of "once saved always saved". This is what Sodini the mass murderer believed. He did not fear hell while he mass murdered 3 women himself and wounded other women.


loretta (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

I just read your post, Gerald, and I am so very sorry to hear this, too. You need to do what is best for your health, but hopefully after sharing what is going on in your life, all of us will be more understanding of views different from our own. And that is a very good lesson to share! I am sending you tons of healing energy and hoping the medication works so very well.

DDay (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

Gerald, I too read your post. I'm sorry to hear about your travails. I understand some of what you are experiencing. I have suffered from Chronic Heart Failure since 2001. It is a long inexorable slide with too many pokes, prods, tests, and meds to forget the inevitable. As someone who has found your posts sometimes annoying, I have also found great humanity in your writings at other times. Your interest in taking other's sensibilities in consideration is an indication of not only your good heart, but proof that your not done down here because you are still learning and improving. (At the risk of incurring the notice and wrath of TCL) You are a good ol'fart. Annoying, but good. Myself, I've only mastered annoying, so, you're ahead of me.

@ Loretta TCL is far too hilarious to have come from me. Ask my wife, she tells me almost every day that I'm not very funny. Thanks for the compliment though. I think it's Richard Adlof. There is an imp in him. I can hardly wait for TCL to go after Thom. He's part Nordic.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@Nels and DDay, thank you for the kind words! I share some information to alert people on the importance of a healthy heart. A person may look good on the outside but the internal activity is only experienced by the person with heart problems.

Nels, my guess is that only God knows our souls and how prepared we are to meet our Maker.

DDay, having chronic heart failure since 2001 you are very aware of the travails. It is appreciated to be called a good old fart. My wife calls an old fart.

Gerald Socha (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@John, thank you for the information on Bonhoeffer and the words about Nazi theology, etc. I do not believe in the "once saved, always saved" philosophy. I believe that God is interested in our perseverance to do good on earth until the end of our natural life.

John (not verified) 10 years 27 weeks ago

@Gerald Socha and this forum:

Hello! I am not here to persuade you to believe in once saved always saved. The corporate MIC "christian" cult I speak of does, however. I should not have said that you(my friends here) are behind neocons in theology.My logic here is one true word in true faith has value whereas 10,000 false words has no value as to what is good. Neocons going back to Hitler have used christian theology for their political agendas. Just as Hitler tasked Gerhard Kittle(arrested after WWII) to "find" an answer to destroy the Jews in the christian theology, which was then to be taught in all the government controlled churches of the 3rd Reich. The pastors of the 3rd reich churches were very much responsible for prejudices against the Jews in WWII. TAUGHT from the pulpit.

People are free to believe as they wish in my view. I cannot control all the reactions that may occur from what I say. The reason I bring up Christian theology is to show how in many cases Neocons have twisted the verses of the bible(and taken out of context) for their Neocon corporate agenda and how dangerous it is. The immoral "Corporate Christianity" theology has been written and spoken by RB Thieme jr in the 1960s,70s,80s,90s and early 2000s. He is now deceased. But the problem is Thieme made daily tapes of his "classes". These tapes are the perfect militant, corporate "christian" cult model(blueprint). These tapes are in the hundreds of thousands and they were sent through the USA and the world. "Thieme's model" can be reproduced at any time or place in the world by simply forcing Thieme's tapes into a particular church. Many churches have split over Thieme's tapes. This was Thieme's intention to militantly "blitzkrieg" divide and conquer American churches(and foreign churches) by coercion of Thieme's false "superior theology".In addition Thieme "indoctrinated" the christian slaves to submit to institutional corporate authority. Thieme was very convincing to many. He always shoved his "superiority knowledge of the original languages" in the face of everyone. So? That when an "average" christian who in good faith had a question in which Jesus might be seen as a socialist loving caring liberal? well Thieme was on the attack with his "technical" "orignal" language" "corrections" of?paraphrasing " That's not so Jesus was a neocon war loving war profiteering Republican Neocon"

It turned out that Thieme's "mastery of the original languages" was a sham as so was his cult.(Though many people of good faith were hoodwinked)

And thus then followed the ignorant insane Neocon vote in November.

And it has worked in many cases. Many lives have been destroyed by this persons twisting of theology and the false addition of his personalized cult into theology.

The reason I bring this up is because you are dealing with a zombied corporate cult(where human common sense has little if no respect before Thieme and his copycat "pastors") which shows how far Neocons are willing to go to twist the words of the Bible for their corporate fascist MIC agenda.

It is fine that you believe the way you do in my view.

Also, I think that the "mass media" of oldern days WAS the church. It was the 1st gathering of people in mass before printed paper or even that language was standardized for people to even attain the skills to even read competently on a "mass" scale, in which Kings could control the serfs through words.

After all what is the title of the Gospel? Is it not "the good NEWS"?


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